Turkish Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 (edited) I should behave and ignore, but no sweat, will indulge you... So let's take you comments in turn if only to demonstrate you failed to understand the points made.... 1. Re. Improving the quality of the side with 2-7 mil players.... Of you can , if the players you are replacing are worse. We replaced Richardson, hooiveld, Davis etc. all the players you mention replaced non prem standard players who were all rated at less than 1mil... Please provide me with a name or two, were a 30mil+ rated player has been replaced by one rather under 10 mil who is better and has thus meant we don't miss the talent that has gone..sensible mind, not wher clubs have paid stupid money for rubbish or where they have just failed to settle... 2. Re. Turning my nose up at 12-15th in the prem. Yep got me on that one... Sorry but being in the prem without ever having a chance to be better than 12-15th is not appealing. Goes against the principles of sporting competition, if you simply accept this as the best you can hope for. If this is the sum if our ambition, seriously what is the point.... We don't know whether, Krugs ans KL want more than this, I hope they do, and you don't need to sling 100s of millions at it to achieve more. You just need to recognise when we are blessed with a number of big talented players coming through at the same time and fight tooth and nail to keep them... For a few seasons at least... Think Bayer Leverkusen... CL final when they at a 22k capacity, but kept a crop of talent together until it was 22-23, not sold at 17-18... 3. Re. Being 'mental' - well if wanting more than accepting that we can never compete is mental, then yes I am completely ****ing crazy. And glad I have higher standards of expectation and am not content to with also rans... 4. Re. Getting his hands on dead guys cash.... That is really low even by your standards... They were friends, close friends and Marcus trusted him. I suspect NC just wanted to deliver on Marcus's dream with funds Marcus probably intended to spend... How does spending on the the academy after Marcus's death, equate with your thinking? If it was ego and success by spending a 'dead guys cash' Why bother with 30 mil on the academy? Jus spend it on players and go for it surely.... Seriously, he 'spending a dead guys cash' says more about what a twisted fe key you are than any of your posts. Whatever you think of me, is irrelevant, but that is insulting to both NC, and Marcus, with the faith he had in him.... 5. Re supporting someone else for CL football..... Perhaps the best illustration yet of how you just don't get it, or at best refuse to accept it, in an effort to WUM. It's not about only wanting to support is we get CL football. It's about wanting yo see the club have aspirations beyond the glass chilling so many seem happy to accept. It's about how hard someone tries, not a outs whether we achieve it or not... But the ambition needs to be backed with a genuine fight... If it is we can be proud of our clubs whatever our position or outcome. If you don't get that, you probably never will, as you seem to be unable to see past you dislike for me and actually comment on the points raised. i genuinely hope Krugs and KL turn out to be the best we nve ever had... There is no love in for NC, don't know the bloke, so can't comment, and given his rep, I suspect, KL and Krugs would be more pleasant company for dinner or pint. But I don't need nice people running the club I support. I need bastards who get things done and deliver. Whilst he was her NC did. I hope Krugs has enough of the bastard in him to tell other clubs that Shaw and Lallana are going nowhere..... To me that is not too much to expect. Beckham was replaced in the Man United squad by Christian Ronaldo, how did that one pan out? okay Beckham cost £25m and Ronaldo cost £12m, so a closer gap but the point remains the same. Edited 15 March, 2014 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Indeed, and I'll stand by the opinion that anyone who says there is something "sad" about our season needs their head examined. I don't want to be an apologist for our Glasgow based chum, but I didn't read his comment as that. I read is as similar to mine; we've over-achieved to expectations in the league and achieved a great season in that regard. But we had a huge chance to do something more and downgraded it. So, sadly, we do "just" have the league placing to go for. "Sad"? No, of course not. But, relative to what we might have done, then yes, "sadly" it was an opportunity that got past us. IMO, of course. BTW: It's good to discuss a difference of opinion with someone who respects the other point of view without resorting to terms such as "troll". I enjoy discussion with people who are intelligent but share other points of view. i.e. you, a rarer breed on here. Shut up you skate troll. Its time the mods took action against your type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Shut up you skate troll. Its time the mods took action against your type. Get f*cked you northern poof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Indeed, and I'll stand by the opinion that anyone who says there is something "sad" about our season needs their head examined. I don't want to be an apologist for our Glasgow based chum, but I didn't read his comment as that. I read is as similar to mine; we've over-achieved to expectations in the league and achieved a great season in that regard. But we had a huge chance to do something more and downgraded it. So, sadly, we do "just" have the league placing to go for. "Sad"? No, of course not. But, relative to what we might have done, then yes, "sadly" it was an opportunity that got past us. IMO, of course. BTW: It's good to discuss a difference of opinion with someone who respects the other point of view without resorting to terms such as "troll". I enjoy discussion with people who are intelligent but share other points of view. i.e. you, a rarer breed on here. I interpreted it differently (hence my response) - I can find some regret this season with the Sunderland game in the FA Cup as I felt we didn't put our best foot forward and without good reason, but in terms of the rest of the season I'm delighted, which is why I took exception to a view that this season could be viewed with any form of sadness at all (if that is what was meant - it's just how I interpreted it). It's taken a long time to get back to this point for the club and I don't know how old most are on here but in terms of our modern history I can't remember when we've had it so good therefore the mind boggles a bit when I see people behave so negatively. I know the usual culprits like to wind-up and prod and poke and from time to time I'll get involved but I'll take this place for what it is and by and large I like just to share views with other fans and see what people think. Right now I think we're heading into a really tough stage where the growth starts to tail off and we have to fight against complacency and see what marginal gains we can make to keep going. Fans will also be challenged because many are on a drip feed of Saints being great for five straight years and now we have to realise it may be a challenge to stand still as much as it is to keep getting better. I dread to think what reactions will be if we have a slow start to next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 I interpreted it differently (hence my response) - I can find some regret this season with the Sunderland game in the FA Cup as I felt we didn't put our best foot forward and without good reason, but in terms of the rest of the season I'm delighted, which is why I took exception to a view that this season could be viewed with any form of sadness at all (if that is what was meant - it's just how I interpreted it). It's taken a long time to get back to this point for the club and I don't know how old most are on here but in terms of our modern history I can't remember when we've had it so good therefore the mind boggles a bit when I see people behave so negatively. I know the usual culprits like to wind-up and prod and poke and from time to time I'll get involved but I'll take this place for what it is and by and large I like just to share views with other fans and see what people think. Right now I think we're heading into a really tough stage where the growth starts to tail off and we have to fight against complacency and see what marginal gains we can make to keep going. Fans will also be challenged because many are on a drip feed of Saints being great for five straight years and now we have to realise it may be a challenge to stand still as much as it is to keep getting better. I dread to think what reactions will be if we have a slow start to next season Amen to all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Mugs? No, not a word i would use to describe Saints fans. I watched the game today, despite the result meaning very little. I know a number of season ticket holders however who wouldnt have missed a game earlier this season... Now they are allowing other mates to use there ST in favour of a game of golf or weekend trip to europe. We are fighting for mopos top 8 bonus now.... Sadly not much else You really are a **** aren't you? I have been supporting Saints for very nearly 60 years and have had a ST for 40 of those. I support the team and EVERY game is important to me. I really think that it has got to the stage where you need to take a good look at yourself. Self appointed guru of what is and what is not as far as Saints are concerned? Either grow or get some sort of life. Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 You really are a **** aren't you? Lovely way to speak to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 March, 2014 Share Posted 15 March, 2014 Lovely way to speak to people. If in doubt or losing the debate..... Just resort to name calling or just good old "troll" Just the way the forum is now - insults are overlooked by the mods it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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