Dan Johnson Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 The message that would be sent out by MP signing a new contract is HUGE IMHO. It proves that MP would have got assurances over transfer budget and transfer policy and is happy with it. It proves that the owners are fully committed to the club and the vision championed by NC before his departure. It proves to the players that the promises made to them when they signed their contracts are still in place and this club continues to aim for the next level. It will be essential to keeping our best players in the summer and attracting new players here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 would be good news but I'm wouldn't be too bothered if he did leave because he hasn't done as well as what some people say, got a much better squad than what adkins had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 would be good news but I'm wouldn't be too bothered if he did leave because he hasn't done as well as what some people say, got a much better squad than what adkins had The youth of today....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 would be good news but I'm wouldn't be too bothered if he did leave because he hasn't done as well as what some people say, got a much better squad than what adkins had But he is doing 'much' better isn't he? What exactly do you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 The message that would be sent out by MP signing a new contract is HUGE IMHO. It proves that MP would have got assurances over transfer budget and transfer policy and is happy with it. It proves that the owners are fully committed to the club and the vision championed by NC before his departure. It proves to the players that the promises made to them when they signed their contracts are still in place and this club continues to aim for the next level. It will be essential to keeping our best players in the summer and attracting new players here. I'm interested to know why you'd think that. It could equally suggest that Cortese is coming back with a buyout group, and thats why MP was staying; he nailed his colours pretty firmly to the mast when he said that if Cortese went he'd go as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Bizarrely isn't Mauricio the 8th longest serving manager in the PL. Personally I would be very pleased if he stays. Watching the training videos and listening to Les Reed last night it would seem that the relationship between Mauricio and the squad is good. Les saying he is a coach rather than a 'manager'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 It is good news. The list of clubs that would want to take Mopo in the Summer will be quite long as he has certainly cemented an already positive reputation for developing younger talented players and making them better - like Lovren, Morgan, Adam, Luke and Jrod etc but also for getting maximum out of experienced older players like Rickie, Boruc, Fonte and S Davis. What he has not done is take precocious non homegrown younger talents and made them brilliant. In fact he has not been successful at that so far. Mayuka, Lee, Osvaldo and GR so far have not really done the biz. Overall he has got an excellent reputation as a football theorist - his principles are of course borrowed from the great Argentinean coach Bielsa but he is in a small minority throughout european leagues as a coach whose principles of very clear and attractive hard working yet attacking identity and team style are always evident. As such hes very bankable. We should pay him basic £3m a year not £1m imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 The "off in the summer" talk is just one of the fireworks going off in the end of season finale, brought to you by Imminent Doom Albion. It's a cliffhanger episode in which Katharina Liebherr reveals her true intentions, and lines up the playing staff outside St. Marys for an impromptu open-air fire sale, before setting off into the sunset with a big(ger) pile of cash. That boll*cks aside, if we're talking to MP about a new deal, it augurs well for the long-term future of the club. I don't think he's going to sign up for something longer term without some assurances that there will be stability and investment going forward. Well, not unless they're give him a big pile of hush money to keep schtum about the season finale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Part of me is pleased. Nevertheless, I am a bit concerned about the summer transfer activity and the approach to the cups next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Part of me is pleased. Nevertheless, I am a bit concerned about the summer transfer activity and the approach to the cups next season As has been said, if Pochettino does sign a new deal then I think some reasonable assumptions could be made about other concerns this summer regarding players in and out. If the approach to Cups is just one of two concerns I'd say the club is in pretty damn good shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Part of me is pleased. Nevertheless, I am a bit concerned about the summer transfer activity and the approach to the cups next season You being concerned about summer transfer activity is up there in terms of certainties with the Pope's Catholicism and bears' approach to using the woods as their lavatories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 You being concerned about summer transfer activity is up there in terms of certainties with the Pope's Catholicism and bears' approach to using the woods as their lavatories And Pompey going into admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easty Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 He aint going far, his son has recently signed a 2 year deal at the academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 You being concerned about summer transfer activity is up there in terms of certainties with the Pope's Catholicism and bears' approach to using the woods as their lavatories Can't wait for the latest installment of that. The jealous casting of eyes at desperate clubs scrambling around to make 18 signings, upheaval of the squad etc etc. We should be signing x,y,z, we are run like a crappy b&b. Oh the joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Good news if true, but as he self has pointed out before: contracts means very little in football, especially when it comes to managers. That's pretty much what I was going to post. Even if he signs a new contract, if new owners were to come in and want to bring in a new manager, his contract will only be basis for compensation for loss of office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 That's pretty much what I was going to post. Even if he signs a new contract, if new owners were to come in and want to bring in a new manager, his contract will only be basis for compensation for loss of office. Which is what happened to Wotte when Markus bought us. Mind you, he did alright and is now Scotland's equivalent of Technical Director. If MP does sign a new deal - which I hope he does - and Spurs or someone else comes in for him, it'll cost them a lot more and besides, as others have posted it appears that Louis Van Gaal is heading there and he is more of a 'name' than MP which Spurs fans will demand. If MP is getting the resources he wants in the summer, it makes sense to stay another year at least because he has a good squad and doesn't seem to getting much in the way of hassle which he'd be getting by the bucket load if he went to Spurs, Real or one of the Milan clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Will be the best signing of 2014 if he stays, and should help to keep some of our better players at the Club. Really is important to keep him. You don't do well by losing Managers of his quality. Nice summary - I really hope he stays -good manager and a good person to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 I'm interested to know why you'd think that. It could equally suggest that Cortese is coming back with a buyout group, and thats why MP was staying; he nailed his colours pretty firmly to the mast when he said that if Cortese went he'd go as well. I think MP would have walked when Cortese left, as you say, MP had previously said he would consider his position if NC was to leave and that was the perfect opportunity to do so. I genuinely believe there's no subtext & MP wasn't convinced to stay because NC mentioned there's an impending buyout but because he had a professional responsibility to the players. I think the appointment of Ralph Krueger also suggest there isn't a buyout on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Part of me is pleased. Nevertheless, I am a bit concerned about the summer transfer activity and the approach to the cups next season So that feels like euphoria to the rest of us then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 He aint going far, his son has recently signed a 2 year deal at the academy Not surprised if true - he looked decent in the second game I saw him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 How old is his son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Part of me is pleased. Don't worry. With the wonders of modern medicine you can have that part surgically removed before it spreads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Would state Katrina's intent if he signed. We honestly have one of the most talented coaches in europe right now. Yes, but he needs Shaw & Lallana on board as well for his project to be going anywhere. If they did leave it wouldn't much matter who was boss next season we'd end up in the dog fight at the bottom of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 This is very good news if and when it happens. I think it will serve to retain much of our key talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambjo1976 Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Well you can tell by the way he used his walk, he's a woman's man, with no time to talk. Brilliant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Well you can tell by the way he used his walk, he's a woman's man, with no time to talk. Ha Ha Ha Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Yes, but he needs Shaw & Lallana on board as well for his project to be going anywhere. If they did leave it wouldn't much matter who was boss next season we'd end up in the dog fight at the bottom of the league. Do you honestly think if Shaw and Lallana were sold in the summer the club wouldn't replace them with quality players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Do you honestly think if Shaw and Lallana were sold in the summer the club wouldn't replace them with quality players? You couldn't guarantee they would or could. The transfer market is a lottery. Much better to retain your own. It would be incredibly hard to replace either of them regardless of funds, and even then you need to get the transfer over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 We wouldn't be SFC without a summertime drama of some sorts, but Pochettino signing a new contract indicates Katherina could be staying and means we have greater chance of keeping the talent. Hope this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 (edited) Yes, but he needs Shaw & Lallana on board as well for his project to be going anywhere. If they did leave it wouldn't much matter who was boss next season we'd end up in the dog fight at the bottom of the league. Do you honestly think if Shaw and Lallana were sold in the summer the club wouldn't replace them with quality players? You couldn't guarantee they would or could. The transfer market is a lottery. Much better to retain your own. It would be incredibly hard to replace either of them regardless of funds' date=' and even then you need to get the transfer over the line.[/quote'] Its still quite a leap to suggest losing Shaw and Lallana would leave us in a "dog fight at the bottom of the league". Even if the replacements weren't as good, they aren't going to be bad enough to drag the quality of the squad that far down. With Clyne at left back and Ramirez in for Lallana we'd still have more quality in our team than those at the bottom. Edited 11 March, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Do you honestly think if Shaw and Lallana were sold in the summer the club wouldn't replace them with quality players? Is there anything you wouldnt argue ? No, actually, go on then, who would you replace them with ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Is there anything you wouldnt argue ? No, actually, go on then, who would you replace them with ? My point was more about him thinking we'd be in a "dog fight at the bottom of the league", see post above. I trust our scouting team from their previous record to find replacements that would mean losing Shaw and Lallana wouldn't result in a relegation battle as Charlie suggested, even if they weren't as good as Shaw/Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 How old is his son? He played for u14s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 I trust our scouting team from their previous record How do you rate the last 4 signings? Vegard Forren - disaster Pablo Osvaldo - complete fail Victor Wanyama - dury still out, now behind Cork who was already at the club Dejan Lovren - superb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Jazzbo Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 How do you rate the last 4 signings? Vegard Forren - disaster Pablo Osvaldo - complete fail Victor Wanyama - dury still out, now behind Cork who was already at the club Dejan Lovren - superb Possibly the same scouting team that signed Cork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 This is getting into pointless discussion territory now IMO. Personally, I agree with MLG that IF we sold Lallana and Shaw, we would not find ourselves in a 'dog fight at the bottom' as a result. However, it would be better for our progress all round if we could keep them, and the manager, and build on what we've achieved thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Is there anything you wouldnt argue ? No, actually, go on then, who would you replace them with ? Exactly, how can we replace them with players who are as good? There is a reason the likes of Chelsea and Man City are linked with Shaw. He's top quality.MLG, who would you suggest as realistic quality replacements for Shaw and Lallana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easty Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 He played for u14s Yeah, under 13/14's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 I think IF Poch signs a new contract it'll be whats not written in it that will make him sign , ie: Future direction of the club ,Assurances on new signings etc !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 You being concerned about summer transfer activity is up there in terms of certainties with the Pope's Catholicism and bears' approach to using the woods as their lavatories Are we running the yearly sweepstake on when Alps will launch his annual broadside on us not moving quickly enough in the transfer market? If we are can I have 21st May please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Possibly the same scouting team that signed Cork Jack was an Adkins signing - he played for him at S4unthorpe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 (edited) How do you rate the last 4 signings? Vegard Forren - disaster Pablo Osvaldo - complete fail Victor Wanyama - dury still out, now behind Cork who was already at the club Dejan Lovren - superb Yes, Forren was a mistake, but would you not agree Osvaldo, Wanyama and Lovren are all better players than merely relegation dogfighters? Osvaldo seemingly failed as a signing not because of his footballing ability, he isn't relegation team material quality. The scouting team I mentioned has also played a key role in taking the club from 68th in 2009 to 9th in England in 2014. Every club makes the odd recruitment mistake, but I think you should put some more trust in the club's recruitment structure than you seemingly currently do. Edited 11 March, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Jack was an Adkins signing - he played for him at S4unthorpe So was Osvaldo an MP or scouts/"committee" signing? Not saying he was a signing that worked out, before that gets inferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Yes, Forren was a mistake, but would you not agree Osvaldo, Wanyama and Lovren are all better players than merely relegation dogfighters? Osvaldo seemingly failed as a signing not because of his footballing ability, he isn't relegation team material quality. The scouting team I mentioned has also played a key role in taking the club from 68th in 2009 to 9th in England in 2014. Every club makes the odd recruitment mistake, but I think you should put some more trust in the club's recruitment structure than you seemingly currently do. Cant argue with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 So was Osvaldo an MP or scouts/"committee" signing? Not saying he was a signing that worked out, before that gets inferred. Osvaldo was very much a Mopo signing imo - played with him before and thought he could manage he temperament Dont know how it all operates, just hope mopo hasnt lost some of his influence (on transfers) after the failings of Osvaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 would you not agree Osvaldo, Wanyama and Lovren are all better players than merely relegation dogfighters? dunno if we're still gonna be shopping at that end of the market tho MLG. Those may not have been Harrods purchases but they was at least Waitrose or Marks and Spencer. I reckon in future we might be shopping at Tesco or, god forbid, Aldi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Cant argue with that wtf! what kind of troll are you???? v.poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 wtf! what kind of troll are you???? v.poor I think he's broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 I hope he stays, we have more points than the whole of last season and we've still got around a quarter to go. FA Cup mess aside he's been a great manager here. There's also the squad unity angle, if MoPo sticks around then so will hopefully our best players too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 11 March, 2014 Share Posted 11 March, 2014 Do you honestly think if Shaw and Lallana were sold in the summer the club wouldn't replace them with quality players? Shaw could be replaced, not with someone as good though, in fact with the money being talked about we could probably bring in two or three good players (assuming the money is re-invested in the team) after selling Shaw. I think Adam would be much harder to replace though, as one of the old guard and captain, his departure would have a much bigger impact on the team as a whole than Shaw going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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