SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 And play Gallagher or Gaston in his place. Thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 3 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Due to his outstanding play of late..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 3 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2014 What even though he looks jaded and lacklustre... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 I would drop Lambert. Every player has off days, but Saturday was more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Against Palace? No no no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefoggy Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Just can not believe the criticism that Lambert gets on here. Hope he has the sense not to read any of the utter tripe thats written on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 I would drop him. Either play Gaston in a false 9 or play him out wide in the 4-2-3-1 and play Jay Rod through the middle. Lambert has been off form for a LONG time now. His performances have gone downhill big style in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 (edited) DEFINITELY NOT DROPPED...BEST CENTRE FORWARD AT THE MIGHTY SAINTS. Edited 3 March, 2014 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Answer to the OP is "No". Lambert is still the best Centre Forward at our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Answer to the OP is "No". Lambert is still the best Centre Forward at our club. He's also the best creator of chances. but only Lallana is on the same wavelength.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 I thought he played quite well on Saturday. So, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Certainly not. Some people expect too much of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 He's also the best creator of chances. but only Lallana is on the same wavelength.. J Rod seemed on the same wavelength when Rickie played that sublime chip for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 What even though he looks jaded and lacklustre... Saying that he "looks jaded and lacklustre" is a very subjective comment - similar to comments elsewhere about Pochettino's "body language". Sometimes we see what we want to see, or are expecting to see - when the reality is often quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 He's been poor recently, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 He's been poor recently, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was dropped. Let's see how he gets on (if at all) in the England game this week, got a feeling he's been sort of holding back, probably wants to go to Brazil desperately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 (edited) 4/5 of our players have been slightly below par....NOT poor. Lambert still does a LOT of good work even when appearing to below par... Like 3/4 second half V Liverpool...legs appeared to have gone walk abouts. Even Morgan and Jay Rod.... OFF THE PACE RECENTLY...I would not drop them either. Having said that........Poch still has soooooo much passion :Dand he will pick the best side to face Palace. Edited 3 March, 2014 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 The delivery to Lambert was poor most of the game. Shaw and Chambers' crosses were often pretty wayward. Playing through the middle doesn't seem to be paying off lately either, and I'm not sure that suits Lambert's game, despite his excellent touch. For those who say Gaston for Lambert, are you talking about a direct replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Just can not believe the criticism that Lambert gets on here. Hope he has the sense not to read any of the utter tripe thats written on here I totally agree. On Saturday he was once again at the heart of all that was good in our performance. It was a surprise to me that he came off at all. It really is difficult to believe that his critics actually go to the games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Yes. Let Gaston have a go with Davis as the link between the midfield 2. Boruc Chambers. Fonte lovren shaw Cork. Spider Davis Lallana gaston. J rod Think this team could get some goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Give me Lambert over jayRod any day of the week. He has a football brain and is still a big presence. JayRod does not have much of either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Give me Lambert over jayRod any day of the week. He has a football brain and is still a big presence. JayRod does not have much of either No, but he does have speed, supreme fitness, and can score a few. I too prefer Lambert but the space between them is diminishing, and they offer different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Lambert was unplayable in L1 & championship. Was good last season, but I feel that this season has maybe been a season too far as a striker. Playing in the 10 role he is still class almost sheringham esque but he doesn't have the young target man goal poacher working off of him & he is getting nowhere near the goals expected of him. This is by no means me having a pop at him the guys a legend but I feel maybe it's time to say thanks for the outstanding service and let him move on. Tin hat donned awaiting incoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 From the rose tinted pro-Lambert zone of Kingsland Block 32, up by the TV cameras, I can't see what the problem is with our Rickie. He never shirks responsibility and is always in amongst the action. Strange thread for me…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Give me Lambert over jayRod any day of the week. He has a football brain and is still a big presence. JayRod does not have much of either and only a powder puff shot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Lambert is a true Saints legend. In 4 successive seasons he was instrumental in: 1. winning the JPT 2. Promotion to the Championship. 3. Promotion to the Prem. 4. Keeping us in the prem. You only have to go back 3 games to remember that free kick against Stoke - brilliant goal. But since that cup exit our season has just gone stale. A few players have dropped form and IMO why not chop and change a bit. Drop him for one game and he'll come back stronger in the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 3 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2014 I am by no means a Lambert sniper, but he looks a yard of his pace compared to the beginning of the season. Perhaps the high tempo of MP's pressing game has worn him out (he is 32)! He might need a rest. As for JRod I know he is in the same poor form, but his pace keeps him in for me. I was thinking GR solely for his hunger to impress (watching clubs), and we need to get goals from somewhere, as we are sliding down badly and we are not technically safe yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Nope. Twas only a month ago that he was integral to ripping Fulham apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Rickie will be buzzing after his brace vs Denmark on Wednesday so has to start for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojones10 Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 people who slag off lambert are mental, we should of been 2-1 up at ht and both the chances we missed were created by lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshiresaint Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 people who slag off lambert are mental, we should of been 2-1 up at ht and both the chances we missed were created by lambert. But surely that's the point. He IS our main striker not a provider. He should be the one getting on the end of these crosses etc but his lack of pace is starting to mean he has to change his game from striker to provider. Hope he does score for England as it may give him some confidence as it appears to me that he is lacking in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 people who slag off lambert are mental, we should of been 2-1 up at ht and both the chances we missed were created by lambert. I dont think you'll find that anyone is slagging RL off, just observing that he is off his game in comparison to how he was a year ago. He has been immense for us but I think other sides have now got the measure of him and perhaps bringing him on from the bench for a game or two might just make him click again. Bring him on when the other side are a little tired and not so disciplined and maybe that might be enough to ignite his spark once more ala his first England game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 The problem is he's not a centre forward - he's a second striker - at his best when playing behind someone - dropping deep and wide to pick up the ball - and attacking the space behind a front man - he's also very good at bullying the fullback in the air when the cross comes from deep But he's not good at leading the line, bullying centre backs or playing on the shoulder of ten centre backs He was always at his best when playing with Barnard or Connolly in front of him - as one of the front 2 when we played 4-2-2-2 or in the hole when we played 4-2-3-1 with Lallana and Puncheon out wide (depending on how you saw that formation). He has lost a bit of pace and stamina this season - but mostly the way we are playing doesn't suit him. The front three were great against Fulham - but that was partly because all three were on fire and a Fulham were so bar I'd be tempted to play 4-3-2-1 against Palace with Jayrod up front, Lallana and a Gaston behind him with a license to roam, Cork sitting in front of the defence and Morgan and Davis pressing. Lambert would be on the bench if we needed to go more direct in the late stages - going 4-2-3-1 or switch to a diamond midfield to keep the ball and kill the game - in both cases he'd replace Gaston (not sure he can last more than 60 mins or track back and win the ball) At the moment we dont really have the players to work a 4-3-3 but that is what we are trying to do - and we don't seem to have a plan B either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Id be tempted to maybe give JWP a start, got a better delivery that Rickie might thrive upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Yeah let's drop the guy who set up the two golden chances on Saturday, he is still one of our best players. Show me a move where Lamberts 'lack of pace' has been evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Sir Rickie, drop him, no, absolutely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 No one player is beyond being dropped, even SRL. In saying that I don't see a great deal of alternative options. Whilst he might not be playing as well as he was earlier in the season I still see him as an important part of how the team is set up and how we play. In saying that, as we are treading water in the league with little to play for as such then giving Gallagher some pitch time could be a useful exercise at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 We need to commit more players forward when we attack..... Simples Liverpool game was a good example of whats wrong with our tactics. We dont want to conceed, i understand that but we are so slow on the break and dont get enough players forward. 1st half Shaw was getting down the left time after time.... 1 saints player in the box. Liverpool break forward and 5 liverpool players in our box Lambert isnt the problem..... Mopo and his tactics are (imho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Give me Lambert over jayRod any day of the week. He has a football brain and is still a big presence. JayRod does not have much of either Agreed....He also seems to have the ball control of a house brick. I'm sure I'm starting to see a trend of our players starting to look for options other than passing to Jrod...He fluffs the ball almost every time he doesn't get it in space.....So for me, swap out Jrod for Gaston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Shouldn't this be in the Palace build up thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Drop an England centre forward for an 18 years old kid or a midfield player? Bobbins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Even though he's played poorly recently, we have no other options to replace him so he has to play. Gallagher has looked ok when he's come on for us, but he only started the Arsenal game because of our lack of options up top. Got to keep him in the team for now - even though he's not the player he used to be he's still by far our best striking option, which highlights our need to buy a striker in the summer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Lambert doesn't deserve a place at the moment based on current performance - he is not acting as a striker and under different circumstances we would not be able to afford having a player that is not performing. However, what do we have to replace him with? Gallagher is nowhere near ready and frankly so far I've been completely underwhelmed - he's just not showing even a glimpse of class (unlike JWP, Shaw, Clyne and Chambers). And that's it - there's nothing else...pointless playing someone like Gaston in that position - he hasn't got the beef in him to jostle with CB's. No, unfortunately, Lambert is the only option we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Certainly not. Some people expect too much of him. 2 goals from open play all season and we're expecting too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 4 March, 2014 Share Posted 4 March, 2014 Yes. Draw Palace into a false sense of security. Then quietly bring him on to do his thang after 35 mins. They will suspect nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 March, 2014 Share Posted 4 March, 2014 2 goals from open play all season and we're expecting too much? Why this obsession with 'open play'? A goal is a goal, however it's scored, and if a player sets up twenty goals and scores none himself isn't he worth his place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 March, 2014 Share Posted 4 March, 2014 2 goals from open play all season and we're expecting too much? Lambert's goal return so far this season is reasonable, his number of assists excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 4 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 4 March, 2014 Ok guys i will put a thought to you, how about we put Lambert back in his previous pitch position as a Midfielder. His lack of pace would not be a big issue in this position. And with his football brain, he would be an excellent central midfielder. Thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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