SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Surprised that this hasn't been commented upon by anyone else, but has anyone else had the thought that maybe what happened with Pardew headbutting that Hull player may hold some clues as to why we sacked him? He clearly has anger management issues and I find myself wondering if it was an issue of failing to control his temper that led to us sacking him. Just a thought....!
Secret Site Agent Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 The trouble is that is this was true, there would be plenty of evidence before now of a temper. Don't know what made him lose it, but don't think it's an anger management issue.
saint si Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Did you miss the MOTD montage of pardew's best touch line brawls then?
adrian lord Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 I think Pardrew is a nasty piece of work behind the media persona.
Fan The Flames Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 I don't think it was that bad, people forget when you are playing football your adrenaline is high and this makes you aggressive. I suspect that the same is true of professional managers and he just acted in an instinctual way, he needs to be given a bit of slack.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 It's not really acceptable I suppose but you can kind of understand why players 'lose it' sometimes during a game - they're competitive young men afterall pumped up on adrenaline and the need to physically compete with their rivals. With ever increasing age and responsibility respectable society expects men Alan Pardew's (and my) age to be capable of exercising a greater degree of restraint and self control. This is of course a ridiculous myth put about by women. In reality gray hair and wrinkles often come along with increased levels of stress, irrational behaviour and impulsiveness. Indeed, from much personal experience I can confirm to you all that there is no fool quite like a old one.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 No. If the rumours are true, it had more to do with gambling issues.
Wes Tender Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Careful what you say. He used to be a glazier and doesn't take well to smears.
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 No, it was due to him wanting to be elsewhere
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Can't remember if I read it here or not but Dean Ashton said in an a fanzine interview that Pardew was too easy going and friendly with the players, which affected their performance
Beckenham Saint Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 (edited) Got a friend that supports Charlton, apparently at one time when they were suffering financially, Pardew took it upon himself to buy a brand new Mercedes with the clubs money without running it by anyone. If that's true, and he repeated that sort of behavior, then probably not a part of Pards' pantomime villain character that would have endeared himself to NC. Still, it's all conjecture as to why he was sacked, don't think we'll ever find out the true reasons now. Edited 2 March, 2014 by Beckenham Saint
Ludwig Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 I think it is very sensible to start speculating on the dismissal of Pardew and can see no reason why we shouldn't just assume it was because NC predicted he might headbutt someone.
oldskoolsi Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 The fact that it has rarely happened before suggests most other managers, even in the heat of the moment, can restrain themselves. Pardew couldn't yesterday in a nothing game his team were cruising to a win in. Whilst the head butt may have been minor the action against him should not be. Otherwise managers will start getting physically more often.
Fan The Flames Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 The fact that it has rarely happened before suggests most other managers, even in the heat of the moment, can restrain themselves. Pardew couldn't yesterday in a nothing game his team were cruising to a win in. Whilst the head butt may have been minor the action against him should not be. Otherwise managers will start getting physically more often. Why is a heavy deterrent required if all the other managers naturally restrain themselves. It was nothing more than what we see on the pitch every week, he's had a red card so a touch line ban of three games is enough. Talk of a ten game ban is daft.
oldskoolsi Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Because if he doesn't get a heavy punishment, then there is less motivation for other managers to restrain themselves in future. Without getting into a discussion about the merits and flaws of the criminal justice system, it's the same reason as why there is punishment for any crime. To act as a deterrent for others. In the past maybe it hasn't happened for managers because of fear of what might happen to them. If they just get a rap on the knuckles then they may as well figure what the hell. Personally I think managers should be more accountable than players for their actions but then I think if the book was thrown at people for everything wrong with the game (disrespect to refs, diving etc) then it would be stamped out pretty easily.
stardustonmyfeet Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Newcastle have raped him a bit with that £100K fine.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Surprised that this hasn't been commented upon by anyone else, but has anyone else had the thought that maybe what happened with Pardew headbutting that Hull player may hold some clues as to why we sacked him? He clearly has anger management issues and I find myself wondering if it was an issue of failing to control his temper that led to us sacking him. Just a thought....! Wasn't there a rumour that he was failing to control his knob?
sandwichsaint Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 My Charlton supporting ST mates have him down as a bit of 'ladies man', these 'rumours' came out of Charlton long before any problems at Saints. I couldn't possibly comment either way but he does come across as a bit of a chocolate drop doesn't he. 10 games min for me (and very lucky to keep his job too). He clearly has previous.
OldNick Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Didn't Osvaldo get banned for touch line problems there? Pardew must do some good winding up on the touch line. He does look a smug so and so
david in sweden Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 Newcastle have raped him a bit with that £100K fine. ....and probably hoping that the FA will consider that " punishment enough" and just send him a letter of warning. No chance. I think he's in for a long sojourn away from the bench sitting in the stands, although I don't know what more they can do to him .......? Anyone ?
the saint in winchester Posted 2 March, 2014 Posted 2 March, 2014 I don't think it was that bad, people forget when you are playing football your adrenaline is high and this makes you aggressive. I suspect that the same is true of professional managers and he just acted in an instinctual way, he needs to be given a bit of slack. You'll get pelters for that viewpoint, mate, so I'll say that I agree with you. Having heard that AP "headbutted" a player, I was expecting on MOTD to see a headbutt a la Zidane on Materazzi. What I saw was Pardew being pushed out the way by a here today, gone tomorrow transient player, then AP chest bumping him and moving his head (no more than that) toward the player. I am amazed at the reaction, that Meyler wasn't cautioned and that 5 mins later we saw a player stamp on on another player and no action was taken. I actually feel AP is getting a bad press here. We could well lose a good manager from the game, and that is disappointing.
bender Posted 3 March, 2014 Posted 3 March, 2014 If Pardew had s hagged that Hull players wife, that would have been a better clue.
david in sweden Posted 3 March, 2014 Posted 3 March, 2014 I think Pardrew is a nasty piece of work behind the media persona. .....if he could handle his players in the same way he handles the media.....Newcastle would win Champions League.
david in sweden Posted 3 March, 2014 Posted 3 March, 2014 He's lucky to still be in the job Newcastle did fine him, but he also has an EIGHT YEAR CONTRACT. If they did get rid of him, it'll cost them a fortune in compensation.
bridge too far Posted 3 March, 2014 Posted 3 March, 2014 Newcastle did fine him, but he also has an EIGHT YEAR CONTRACT. If they did get rid of him, it'll cost them a fortune in compensation. Even if it's considered to be gross misconduct?
bender Posted 3 March, 2014 Posted 3 March, 2014 A lady in our office is friends with him (or at least her husband is). Apparently he's a see you next Tuesday.
sotonian Posted 4 March, 2014 Posted 4 March, 2014 My friend has played for him and says hes one of the biggest C***s in football. Does your friend now play for a local vets side? if so, he has told me the same
GarrettIvo Posted 4 March, 2014 Posted 4 March, 2014 Reminds me of this. Norbert Meier managing Duisberg in 2005. Sacked two days after this incident. What a c*nt.
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 March, 2014 Posted 4 March, 2014 If Pardew had s hagged that Hull players wife, that would have been a better clue. Except that didnt happen
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