Batman Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 Needs to be back in the side IMO We let in far too many goals Early on in the season, we were getting points when only scoring 1 Now we have to score at least 2 to get anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 1 March, 2014 So which is it? He's been in poor form and added nothing when he came on, yet Cork has been very good. Do you want form or not? Should off form players be dropped or brought back in? Seems to change with every post you make. What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 Corky didn't have his best game today. Unusually for him, things seemed to be passing him by, especially in the second half. That said, the last thing Wanyama needs is to be playing short of match fitness because his passing doesn't need to be 20% below a normal that's barely good enough anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 He looks like he's put on about 3 stone. Doesn't look anywhere near fit enough in body or mind at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 He has definitely been on the pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 Needs to be back in the side IMO We let in far too many goals Early on in the season, we were getting points when only scoring 1 Now we have to score at least 2 to get anything Wrong has played poorly since his injury and on current form not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 March, 2014 Author Share Posted 1 March, 2014 Wrong has played poorly since his injury and on current form not good enough. Of course he is. Been in and out and not fully match fit Either way, we are not winning and letting in a few goals a game I think we should get him back in. Just an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 So which is it? He's been in poor form and added nothing when he came on, yet Cork has been very good. Do you want form or not? Should off form players be dropped or brought back in? Seems to change with every post you make. Its not about form as such... we definitely look more susceptible defensively without Wanyama. the form of Cork is irrelevant as they are very different players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 Of course he is. Been in and out and not fully match fit Either way, we are not winning and letting in a few goals a game I think we should get him back in. Just an opinion. Have to disagree with you on that. We look abysmal when Wanyama is on the pitch at the moment. He's 5 seconds behind everyone else and he doesn't deserve to displace Cork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 The only reason why people seem to think that we are conceding a lot is only because we are not scoring. Or worse, not shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 VW currently wouldn't win a tackle against JC as he'd get nowhere near him on the pitch, on his current form all he does is slow up the play for Saints, when on form he slows it up for the opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 He looks like he's put on about 3 stone. Doesn't look anywhere near fit enough in body or mind at the moment. Have to agree re the size of him. Looks overweight to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 Wanyama needs to come in a pick up match fitness, simple. Ramirez needs to come in for Davis. Clyne needs to come in for Chambers. Oh and buy a finisher in the summer, thanks Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 It always takes several games after an injury like that to get back up to speed and to go into tackles with total confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 It always takes several games after an injury like that to get back up to speed and to go into tackles with total confidence. It's not match sharpness, he's massively overweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 It's not match sharpness, he's massively overweight. Much the same thing, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 Every time a Wanyama pass reaches a Saints player its like a small miracle has occurred. Add to that his lack of mobility. Needs to work really hard on his fitness and sort his distribution out. A good player, but not at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Much the same thing, really. Its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Wanyama needs to come in a pick up match fitness, simple. Ramirez needs to come in for Davis. Clyne needs to come in for Chambers. Oh and buy a finisher in the summer, thanks Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Why exactly do either Ramirez or Clyne need to come in? Chambers is there on merit and is our best RB at this present moment. Ramirez hasn't done enough to start football matches, best used as a sub. Although he was pretty useless yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 I think it was a mistake to agree to pay him in Mars bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Why exactly do either Ramirez or Clyne need to come in? Chambers is there on merit and is our best RB at this present moment. Ramirez hasn't done enough to start football matches, best used as a sub. Although he was pretty useless yesterday. Didnt see whole game, been in and out of hospital after new baby boy saint added to fanbase. Just think logically need to go back to what served us so well before. Wanyama was obviously a BIG strong part of that. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Didnt see whole game, been in and out of hospital after new baby boy saint added to fanbase. Just think logically need to go back to what served us so well before. Wanyama was obviously a BIG strong part of that. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk The problem is he is so far from being the player that dominated one or two teams earlier in the season, that having him in the side weakens us big style. The match fitness should be gained in training and with the under 21s side. Personally I think we are a worse side to watch with him in it, but result wise it's hard to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Didnt see whole game, been in and out of hospital after new baby boy saint added to fanbase. Just think logically need to go back to what served us so well before. Wanyama was obviously a BIG strong part of that. Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk I did see the whole game and the only noteworthy action that I can remember from Wanyama after he came on was clattering Suarez and getting booked and then argueing with the ref about it. Massively overweight but then he has been since he first came back from injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Corky didn't have his best game today. Unusually for him, things seemed to be passing him by, especially in the second half. That said, the last thing Wanyama needs is to be playing short of match fitness because his passing doesn't need to be 20% below a normal that's barely good enough anyway. Cork was a bit less effective when Davis went off and was replaced by Ramirez. I don't know whether Davis was carrying a knock, or whether it was just tactical, but I knew when it happened that we would lose control of the midfield and so it proved. If it was a tactical thing, then Pochettino's credentials really need a good hard look at. Until Wanyama slims down and sharpens up, he will be a liability to our style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 I did see the whole game and the only noteworthy action that I can remember from Wanyama after he came on was clattering Suarez and getting booked and then argueing with the ref about it. Massively overweight but then he has been since he first came back from injury. Funny, I remember a fantastic 40 yard ball diagonally into the box that was only just headed away from Lambert by Skrtel for a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Its not about form as such... we definitely look more susceptible defensively without Wanyama. the form of Cork is irrelevant as they are very different players. yes they are VERY different players, but in the present formation they are vying for the same place in the line-up (as are Lallana and Ramirez) ...the only difference there is that when bringing GM on we have to sacrifice Stephen Davis every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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