Wanyama

[Batman]

Needs to be back in the side IMO

 

We let in far too many goals

Early on in the season, we were getting points when only scoring 1

 

Now we have to score at least 2 to get anything

[Batman]

So which is it? He's been in poor form and added nothing when he came on, yet Cork has been very good.

 

Do you want form or not? Should off form players be dropped or brought back in? Seems to change with every post you make.

 

What are you on about?

[CanadaSaint]

Corky didn't have his best game today. Unusually for him, things seemed to be passing him by, especially in the second half.

 

That said, the last thing Wanyama needs is to be playing short of match fitness because his passing doesn't need to be 20% below a normal that's barely good enough anyway.

[Saint Garrett]

He looks like he's put on about 3 stone. Doesn't look anywhere near fit enough in body or mind at the moment.

[LGTL]

He has definitely been on the pies.

[captainchris]

Needs to be back in the side IMO

 

We let in far too many goals

Early on in the season, we were getting points when only scoring 1

 

Now we have to score at least 2 to get anything

 

Wrong has played poorly since his injury and on current form not good enough.

[Batman]

Wrong has played poorly since his injury and on current form not good enough.

 

Of course he is. Been in and out and not fully match fit

 

Either way, we are not winning and letting in a few goals a game

 

I think we should get him back in.

 

Just an opinion.

[SaintSteve]

So which is it? He's been in poor form and added nothing when he came on, yet Cork has been very good.

 

Do you want form or not? Should off form players be dropped or brought back in? Seems to change with every post you make.

 

Its not about form as such... we definitely look more susceptible defensively without Wanyama. the form of Cork is irrelevant as they are very different players.

[Saint Garrett]

Of course he is. Been in and out and not fully match fit

 

Either way, we are not winning and letting in a few goals a game

 

I think we should get him back in.

 

Just an opinion.

 

Have to disagree with you on that. We look abysmal when Wanyama is on the pitch at the moment. He's 5 seconds behind everyone else and he doesn't deserve to displace Cork.

[melmacian_saint]

The only reason why people seem to think that we are conceding a lot is only because we are not scoring.

 

Or worse, not shooting.

[ringwood]

VW currently wouldn't win a tackle against JC as he'd get nowhere near him on the pitch, on his current form all he does is slow up the play for Saints, when on form he slows it up for the opponent.

[Norm]

He looks like he's put on about 3 stone. Doesn't look anywhere near fit enough in body or mind at the moment.

 

Have to agree re the size of him. Looks overweight to me.

[Avenue Saint]

Wanyama needs to come in a pick up match fitness, simple. Ramirez needs to come in for Davis. Clyne needs to come in for Chambers.

 

Oh and buy a finisher in the summer, thanks

 

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[Whitey Grandad]

It always takes several games after an injury like that to get back up to speed and to go into tackles with total confidence.

[Saint Garrett]

It always takes several games after an injury like that to get back up to speed and to go into tackles with total confidence.

 

It's not match sharpness, he's massively overweight.

[Whitey Grandad]

It's not match sharpness, he's massively overweight.

 

Much the same thing, really.

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Every time a Wanyama pass reaches a Saints player its like a small miracle has occurred. Add to that his lack of mobility. Needs to work really hard on his fitness and sort his distribution out. A good player, but not at the moment.

[Smirking_Saint]

Much the same thing, really.

 

Its not

[S-Clarke]

Wanyama needs to come in a pick up match fitness, simple. Ramirez needs to come in for Davis. Clyne needs to come in for Chambers.

 

Oh and buy a finisher in the summer, thanks

 

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Why exactly do either Ramirez or Clyne need to come in? Chambers is there on merit and is our best RB at this present moment. Ramirez hasn't done enough to start football matches, best used as a sub. Although he was pretty useless yesterday.

[saintbob40]

I think it was a mistake to agree to pay him in Mars bars.

[Avenue Saint]

Why exactly do either Ramirez or Clyne need to come in? Chambers is there on merit and is our best RB at this present moment. Ramirez hasn't done enough to start football matches, best used as a sub. Although he was pretty useless yesterday.

 

Didnt see whole game, been in and out of hospital after new baby boy saint added to fanbase.

 

Just think logically need to go back to what served us so well before. Wanyama was obviously a BIG strong part of that.

 

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[Chez]

Didnt see whole game, been in and out of hospital after new baby boy saint added to fanbase.

 

Just think logically need to go back to what served us so well before. Wanyama was obviously a BIG strong part of that.

 

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The problem is he is so far from being the player that dominated one or two teams earlier in the season, that having him in the side weakens us big style. The match fitness should be gained in training and with the under 21s side. Personally I think we are a worse side to watch with him in it, but result wise it's hard to argue.

[Window Cleaner]

Didnt see whole game, been in and out of hospital after new baby boy saint added to fanbase.

 

Just think logically need to go back to what served us so well before. Wanyama was obviously a BIG strong part of that.

 

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I did see the whole game and the only noteworthy action that I can remember from Wanyama after he came on was clattering Suarez and getting booked and then argueing with the ref about it. Massively overweight but then he has been since he first came back from injury.

[Wes Tender]

Corky didn't have his best game today. Unusually for him, things seemed to be passing him by, especially in the second half.

That said, the last thing Wanyama needs is to be playing short of match fitness because his passing doesn't need to be 20% below a normal that's barely good enough anyway.

 

Cork was a bit less effective when Davis went off and was replaced by Ramirez. I don't know whether Davis was carrying a knock, or whether it was just tactical, but I knew when it happened that we would lose control of the midfield and so it proved.

 

If it was a tactical thing, then Pochettino's credentials really need a good hard look at.

 

Until Wanyama slims down and sharpens up, he will be a liability to our style of play.

[Saint_clark]

I did see the whole game and the only noteworthy action that I can remember from Wanyama after he came on was clattering Suarez and getting booked and then argueing with the ref about it. Massively overweight but then he has been since he first came back from injury.

 

Funny, I remember a fantastic 40 yard ball diagonally into the box that was only just headed away from Lambert by Skrtel for a corner.

[david in sweden]

Its not about form as such... we definitely look more susceptible defensively without Wanyama. the form of Cork is irrelevant as they are very different players.

 

yes they are VERY different players, but in the present formation they are vying for the same place in the line-up (as are Lallana and Ramirez)

 

...the only difference there is that when bringing GM on we have to sacrifice Stephen Davis every time.