Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 There is also a lot of evidence that wealthy people relocate to those countries / cities where there is less obvious poverty, low crime, strong justice system, low corruption etc - and those are features of a more not less equal society. Give some examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Give some examples. Google it Bazza. Im not your secretary. Do you dispute that a wealthy person would rather not be surrounded by poverty, at risk of having their Rolex snatched or car scratched, house burgled, open sewers etc, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Google it Bazza. Im not your secretary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Google it Bazza. Im not your secretary. Do you dispute that a wealthy person would rather not be surrounded by poverty, at risk of having their Rolex snatched or car scratched, house burgled, open sewers etc, If you were bazza's secretary, would you spurn his advances by the filing cabinet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Google what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Don't worry Barry, I'll do it for you. http://www.cnbc.com/id/47599766 http://www.cnbc.com/id/101225781 Can I get you a coffee sir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 (edited) How France is still operating is beyond me then.................................My wife and baby are over with her in laws this weekend in Bourg-en-Bresse , they have an awful lot of money (their house is $10 million odd plus the land value) and all they have done is moved it (money) out of the Country, some stay some go, so what, pay your taxes, they should. Edited 28 February, 2014 by Barry Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Can I get you a coffee sir? Damn Tokes, is that you?. I would have been so much nicer in my posts if Id known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 My wife and baby are over with her in laws this weekend in Bourg-en-Bresse Wouldn't it be easier to say "my parents"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 It's embarrassing enough being voted MVP Tim, without having you being all nice to me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Wouldn't it be easier to say "my parents"? Its her sister in laws and mine I suppose not that I ever think of it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 So did your wife buy you the pile in Cressington, Bazza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 So did your wife buy you the pile in Cressington, Bazza? No Pap we share the mortgage , I'm amazed to have come around to even asking a question like that, its been a tough week for you hasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 No Pap we share the mortgage , I'm amazed to have come around to even asking a question like that, its been a tough week for you hasn't it? It's been fine; actually up for that beer if you fancy it. Full apology could be printed on SaintsWeb, tonight. I was just confirming you weren't a big ponce living on the proceeds of your in-laws achievements. Let me know about the beer, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Pap is only interested once he knows your Mrs is well out of town Baz. Then he is all over you like a cheap suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 It's been fine; actually up for that beer if you fancy it. Full apology could be printed on SaintsWeb, tonight. I was just confirming you weren't a big ponce living on the proceeds of your in-laws achievements. Let me know about the beer, yeah? Why would I live on anyone else's achievements? As soon as money is mentioned you now want to meet up for a beer? Something strange going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Nah, couple of mates leaving a former firm. Bazza is a man of leisure. Why not kill two birds with one stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Why would I live on anyone else's achievements? As soon as money is mentioned you now want to meet up for a beer? Something strange going on here. I agree Baz, I ain't saying Pap's a gold digger but he ain't messing with no broke poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 I agree Baz, I ain't saying Pap's a gold digger but he ain't messing with no broke poster. I am always broke, never been rich and never will be, always been happy though or pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 I agree Baz, I ain't saying Pap's a gold digger but he ain't messing with no broke poster. Ah, you've got me now I'm alright for dosh, lads. The missus has just been paid so it's at least two weeks before the bank account starts haemorraghing money again. Thanks all the same, tho'. Bazza. Bevvies, lad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Ah, you've got me now I'm alright for dosh, lads. The missus has just been paid so it's at least two weeks before the bank account starts haemorraghing money again. Thanks all the same, tho'. Bazza. Bevvies, lad? Dog sitting tonight Barney is getting on and ****s himself if in for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 pretty sad for pap that people would sooner stay in watching a dog shit itself, than meet him for a drink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 That's ok, Pap can pop over. Bottle of vino, couple of sambuccas, maybe some sex, see what happens. No pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 pretty sad for pap that people would sooner stay in watching a dog shit itself, than meet him for a drink That's ok, Pap can pop over. Bottle of vino, couple of sambuccas, maybe some sex, see what happens. No pressure. Can I just bring some wine in a bag? Bazza is a bottler, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 That's ok, Pap can pop over. Bottle of vino, couple of sambuccas, maybe some sex, see what happens. No pressure. best leave the incontinent dog out of it though. They're up north remember, not liberal south east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Pap would be turfed off my street for looking like a vagrant if he had a bottle in his hand he would get two years.................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Sounds like you are making a killing from property Barry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 So get yourself down to town then mucker. If not, I'm out next Saturday too. Around 6pm onwards tonight, 3pm onwards next Sat. I have to say I'm astounded at your reluctance. The win you've been looking for is a bus ride and a couple of pints away. You don't have to stay out all night, and you can't tell me you don't have somewhere to put Barney when the entire family goes out shopping. Couple of hours of your time for forum glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 I get the feeling Pap is lonely this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 So get yourself down to town then mucker. If not, I'm out next Saturday too. Around 6pm onwards tonight, 3pm onwards next Sat. I have to say I'm astounded at your reluctance. The win you've been looking for is a bus ride and a couple of pints away. You don't have to stay out all night, and you can't tell me you don't have somewhere to put Barney when the entire family goes out shopping. Couple of hours of your time for forum glory. Barney is not my dog, my dog is Winston, an English Pointer. Pap forum glory is something granted I have always aspired to but alas not this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Barney is not my dog, my dog is Winston, an English Pointer. Pap forum glory is something granted I have always aspired to but alas not this evening. who the f*ck is barney that shits himself then ffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Just a friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 who the f*ck is barney that shits himself then ffs? My wifes parents dog, they flew over as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Bottle of vino, couple of sambuccas, maybe some sex, see what happens. No pressure. This is starting to sound like an episode from GM’s life story. I’m expecting a blow-jobbing secretary to pop out at any moment. If it’s the one above, can I come along tonight as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Yeah there's too many characters in this story - two dogs, a wife, a baby, two parents and a chicken. I would lose at least one of the dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 I'd lose the two dogs, wife, baby, two parents and chicken. The secretary and coffee can stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Jesus Christ. 1. Could someone please tell pap that Barry is Dune is Stanley is Mole is Tristan, etc., etc? Everyone else knows it and no one else gives a flying ****. 2. Could someone for ****'s sake tell Barry that pap gets his moniker from pap-smear girl in 'Slackers', who tries to sell an original pap smear from Madonna? 3. And could we possibly get back to the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 This is starting to sound like an episode from GM’s life story. I’m expecting a blow-jobbing secretary to pop out at any moment. If it’s the one above, can I come along tonight as well? Well it's odd, Halo. Once again we've another moment where things can be definitively sorted, and Barry Sanchez is chickening out. I cannot promise blow-jobbing secretaries, but Liverpool is well stocked with ogling material. The extras are something for you to arrange. Sadly, Barry is unable to deal with the consequences of an incontinent pooch, leaving the forum without resolution. I think that's sad. People want closure, and for the sake of cleaning up a bit of sh!t, BS is denying us it. I can be humble. Fk, I've had a lot of practice. Let's end this, you f**king Mavis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Why won't Bazza meet up with Pap for a drink? They seem to be pretty similar in some of their views, so a bit of mutual masturbation whilst listening to Rage could be in order. "Balls on Parade" or sumink like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Jesus Christ. 1. Could someone please tell pap that Barry is Dune is Stanley is Mole is Tristan, etc., etc? Everyone else knows it and no one else gives a flying ****. 2. Could someone for ****'s sake tell Barry that pap gets his moniker from pap-smear girl in 'Slackers', who tries to sell an original pap smear from Madonna? 3. And could we possibly get back to the thread? You're missing a bit of context, Verbal. I was actually one of the first people to point out the connections you detail in 1). Barry's frequent requests that I prostrate myself before the forum, declare him "not dune", and apologies are a recent highlight of the forum. You should watch this with interest. Potential huge humble pie to be eaten by yours truly. However, we're in agreement on 3). Boys! To the Ramirez Off Topic Thread, where anything but Ramirez is allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 3. And could we possibly get back to the thread? haha i only joined pg 2 and i don't even know what it's sposed to be about. Fertility treatment or something i thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Correlation is not causation. That goes for Bazza's whereabouts as well as the topic of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Well it's odd, Halo. Once again we've another moment where things can be definitively sorted, and Barry Sanchez is chickening out. I cannot promise blow-jobbing secretaries, but Liverpool is well stocked with ogling material. The extras are something for you to arrange. Sadly, Barry is unable to deal with the consequences of an incontinent pooch, leaving the forum without resolution. I think that's sad. People want closure, and for the sake of cleaning up a bit of sh!t, BS is denying us it. I can be humble. Fk, I've had a lot of practice. Let's end this, you f**king Mavis. Pap I was trying to be polite, after you 16 month witch hunt would you want to meet a person like you? Quite frankly you can come and see me (you could have Tuesday) but you can get ****ed lad if I am going anywhere to meet your ragged arse, why should you offer me for a drink and try to claim the upper hand on a football forum? Jesus wept its a tad pathetic, go out with your workmates and have a nice time and forget about this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Pap I was trying to be polite, after you 16 month witch hunt would you want to meet a person like you? Quite frankly you can come and see me (you could have Tuesday) but you can get ****ed lad if I am going anywhere to meet your ragged arse, why should you offer me for a drink and try to claim the upper hand on a football forum? Jesus wept its a tad pathetic, go out with your workmates and have a nice time and forget about this forum. Can you not forget about this forum and what happens on it? Because if you can surely you won't have a problem with meeting Pap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Can you not forget about this forum and what happens on it? Because if you can surely you won't have a problem with meeting Pap? I refer to fact Pap has to appeal to his watchers, ask me out for a pint watch me refuse as its the same night and claim I dont live in Liverpool, why would I want to meet a person like that? What sounds good about that? When I have works do's I dont invite strangers from the internet to pop along for a bevy, can you imagine if I went and said to his workmates I was there to justify his insecurities in the fact he believes I dont live somewhere where I actually do, put that into your own life and it sounds ****ing weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 Barry, we are over here http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?39721-The-Ramirez-Off-Topic-Thread&p=1893348#post1893348 Let these good people get back to talking about sofa sales and fertility treatments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 I refer to fact Pap has to appeal to his watchers, ask me out for a pint watch me refuse as its the same night and claim I dont live in Liverpool, why would I want to meet a person like that? What sounds good about that? When I have works do's I dont invite strangers from the internet to pop along for a bevy, can you imagine if I went and said to his workmates I was there to justify his insecurities in the fact he believes I dont live somewhere where I actually do, put that into your own life and it sounds ****ing weird. But wouldn't it be fun to do that, and embarrass Pap at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 28 February, 2014 Share Posted 28 February, 2014 How France is still operating is beyond me then. Having just driven back that way recently I suspect that their agricultural production helps.. Leaving aside Bresse and its chickens, I passed Pouilly, Sancerre and a few other interesting villages... I picked up a whole Reblochon as well, to help the French balance of payments.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 Just seen the rest of the thread... I thinks it's gone a bit OT. As for VAT being a regressive tax, it should be noted that in the UK food is zero rated and fuel is at only 5%. Posh ipads n'stuff, and other luxuries are at the normal rate. As for VAT on fuel, and indeed fuel duty; I lived in a part of Europe where there was a regional subsidy on vehicle fuel costs. Unsurprisingly there was a proliferation of large, juicy and polluting vehicles; in a mountain environment which concentrated the impact in the valley bottoms. The EU stopped this unequal subsidy (non-vehicle owners didn't benefit), and although I benefited from it I can't say I was actually in agreement with it. As for inequality not helping an economy; it's pretty obvious and has been for a long time. The propensity of poorer people to spend and hence the velocity of money (V=T/M rings a bell?) is much greater, and they also tend to spend it within the local environment; which also helps the local economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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