Patrick Bateman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 The club would have signed off on the design, I find it difficult to believe that Adidas provided us with a kit design that we didn't approve. Sour Mash is right above that Adidas ****ed up with their supply chain, though, stock levels were well below what was deemed acceptable for months. Hence I presume another one of those "commercial revenue streams" that the new board alluded to that could be improved. If we were waiting for stock on many items which the club was hoping to have revenue attributed to, how much money was potentially lost? Probably only a couple of hundred £k, but certainly enough to add up from that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Puma pay Arsenal £30m a season to be their kit supplier. Do the sports kit manufacturers pay the mid table sides to provide their kit? They effectively are sponsors of the clubs and get the same publicity that the shirt sponsors get. If we produce our own we would obviously miss out on this money, whatever it might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 What's wrong with making our own? It's hardly as if Adidas are haute couture, they're still cheap cr#p made in Taiwan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 False Alarm humble apologies........ Bum info! Sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Far be it for me to stand up for NC, but Adidas did stuff up with the late delivery of various bits of kits, fair enough reason for a contractual dispute there. I agree, long sleeve shirts for example didnt come in until October and they werent the only things that arrived late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I agree, long sleeve shirts for example didnt come in until October and they werent the only things that arrived late. The shortage of the away kit was very noticeable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I can just see the first game of the season now. Man Utd away, 70,000 fans. Luke Shaw is parading the Jules Rimet Trophy in front of his new home fans. Meanwhile Saints, captained by Jono Forte, are being forced to play in their pants and vest by the PE teacher because they didn't bring their sports kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isla Wight Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Plenty of places in Bangkok could knock out large quantities of shirts at a fraction of the price we pay. Can I have the contract please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 on OS now about not using Adidas http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/14052014-statement-southampton-fc-adidas-1552140.aspx Following months of discussions at the end of last year, the decision was made at the start of December 2013 that the Club would terminate its contract with its Official Technical Supplier, adidas. In February and March of this year, the Club worked hard to repair the relationship with adidas but, despite these healthy discussions, it has become clear that, due to the short lead times involved, adidas were unable to produce a Southampton kit in time for next season. As a result of this the Club has had to find an alternative solution, and we will be unveiling exciting news regarding our 2014/15 kit within the next couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Why does it take so long for Adidas or Nike or whoever to sort out, when they've shown they usually just use a template shirt and stick a badge and sponsor on?! Could have kept the same shirts just changed the sponsor. Home shirt with white badge and sponsor would look so much better. Perhaps it's not the real reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 on OS now about not using Adidas http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/14052014-statement-southampton-fc-adidas-1552140.aspx Following months of discussions at the end of last year, the decision was made at the start of December 2013 that the Club would terminate its contract with its Official Technical Supplier, adidas. In February and March of this year, the Club worked hard to repair the relationship with adidas but, despite these healthy discussions, it has become clear that, due to the short lead times involved, adidas were unable to produce a Southampton kit in time for next season. As a result of this the Club has had to find an alternative solution, and we will be unveiling exciting news regarding our 2014/15 kit within the next couple of months. I'm guessing that the lack of a kit supplier for next season is part of the reason why we couldnt attract a better shirt sponsor than Veho............ I get the impression Addidas werent interested, which is why we only got offered generic crap which then couldnt be supplied on time in sufficient quantity. The official statement is clearly revenge spin against NC, who has apparently been sh*t stirring for weeks to the press about player sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Good that the Club are communicating openly on the big issues this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudders Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 The official statement is clearly revenge spin against NC, who has apparently been sh*t stirring for weeks to the press about player sales. Have to agree with this. There's not really any point in making this statement other than to have a dig. They've not announced the new kit maker or said exactly when it'll be launched (I think we could have worked out it'd be in the next couple of months ourselves). Why bother to come out with this statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Maybe because it was all over Twitter yesterday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeSixty Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 You'd have to assume the club was speaking to other suppliers at the same time as trying to renegotiate with Addidas... Surely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Yep - clearly statement was released due to Adidas breaking cover yesterday (possibly some social media administrator acting outside of authority) and it ending up all over twitter and of course SWF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 The statement doesn't clearly explain if the deal with Adidas is still in place. It reads as if it IS still in place but the smoothing of the waters by the new board was to late to allow them time to make a new kit for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 mmmm pls play skins pls pls pls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Call me mad but why can't they just wear this seasons kit again next year. Surely problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 The club had to go out and buy adidas stuff from various outlets last summer as they failed to deliver promised items for pre-season. Saints weren't the only ones to suffer, West Brom were also badly affected. It was a catalogue of f*ck-ups and Cortese was surely within his rights to kick up a fuss - but as we all know about his personality, he may have been a bit OTT. It wasn't exactly a secret that there was a new Saints/adidas store planned for West Quay which never happened, I guess there just wasn't enough stock available to fill it! Possibly breach of contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Veho might raise an objection, I imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Call me mad but why can't they just wear this seasons kit again next year. Surely problem solved. exactly what I was thinking, Apart from the sponsor thing, nothing a bit of tippex can't sort out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 How long does it take to produce a kit ffs! We reconciled in feb/mar and they can't produce a kit between then and July? It does take 29 days transit time for a Container from Shanghai to Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 No manager, no players, and now no kit! What a mess we are. #meltdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 #meltdown If only we were owned by the fans, none of this would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I bet the final straw was NC saying "adidas stands for After Dinner I Did A Shít". They don't like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 This makes the comments RK was supposed to have said to the awards do even more strange. If we were starting from zero in Feb/March with a new manufacturer, then we are 't tied in to having a Cortese - abortion plain red special after all. A real pity for the dinlows on here that think plain Swindon style red kit is somehow futuristic and exciting but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 This makes the comments RK was supposed to have said to the awards do even more strange. If we were starting from zero in Feb/March with a new manufacturer, then we are 't tied in to having a Cortese - abortion plain red special after all. A real pity for the dinlows on here that think plain Swindon style red kit is somehow futuristic and exciting but there you go. Uh not necessarily. IF he had a row, it is an equal possibility that he ordered a new kit from someone else before he was resigned. The Board have then simply spent 3 months trying to get out of both messes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 This makes the comments RK was supposed to have said to the awards do even more strange. If we were starting from zero in Feb/March with a new manufacturer, then we are 't tied in to having a Cortese - abortion plain red special after all. Aw,come on... Uncle Ralph feeding us bullsh*t ? No way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwightmush Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Think it was, All Day I Dream About Spoons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I bet the final straw was NC saying "adidas stands for After Dinner I Did A Shít". They don't like that. wasn't that the Pony shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 (edited) This makes the comments RK was supposed to have said to the awards do even more strange. If we were starting from zero in Feb/March with a new manufacturer, then we are 't tied in to having a Cortese - abortion plain red special after all. A real pity for the dinlows on here that think plain Swindon style red kit is somehow futuristic and exciting but there you go. Only strange if you are a dinlow enough to lap up RK's corporate babble. Edited 14 May, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 It does take 29 days transit time for a Container from Shanghai to Southampton. But then if the container goes to Felixstowe because landing at Southampton is more expensive and there is a light breeze the ship won't be unloaded on h&s ground so the container will vanish of the system then pop up 5 days later in Rotterdam waiting to be either put on a ship going the other way or the back of a wagon to come to the Uk by road................ So I make that a week after the season has started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inoffthepost Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 From the OS 'Following months of discussions at the end of last year, the decision was made at the start of December 2013 that the Club would terminate its contract with its Official Technical Supplier, adidas. In February and March of this year, the Club worked hard to repair the relationship with adidas but, despite these healthy discussions, it has become clear that, due to the short lead times involved, adidas were unable to produce a Southampton kit in time for next season. As a result of this the Club has had to find an alternative solution, and we will be unveiling exciting news regarding our 2014/15 kit within the next couple of months. Read more at http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/14052014-statement-southampton-fc-adidas-1552140.aspx#XMaFYzA1tLsRHtAj.99' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I am very disappointed that we won't have an Adidas kit next year. Back to poor quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I am very plaesed that we won't have a termplate kit that looks exactly the same as every other Adidas wearing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I am very plaesed that we won't have a termplate kit that looks exactly the same as every other Adidas wearing team. No we will have a template kit that looks exactly the same as every other Kappa wearing team..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 So, it's now totally up in the air now!!!! Sash or Rank Xerox please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Her is how I choose to imagine it went: Saints: We want an individual strip Adidas: Choose from the template Saints: No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I have sent pm to beerbehr + gruber requesting skins for next season but they ain't got back to me yet. Pls can everyone do the same pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Far more concerned about whether our players will still be within said new kit personally. If the whole stripes thing is used as a distraction from sales then i won't be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Apparantly they were filming the promo photos today. Gazzaniga, Targett, Steve Davis and Gallagher. Probably the only ones that will still be around although if we got a decent offer for Davis it would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 I've been on the fence on the optimistic/pessimistic divide but this news has firmly pushed me onto the glass half-empty side. I no longer believe that the current board have the ability to run a successful football club. Assuming that everything on the OS is true we had months of discussions before deciding to end our contract with adidas. Fair enough but wasn't part of that discussion what kit we would wear instead? Why wasn't ending our deal with adidas immediately followed by a signing of a new deal with another manufacturer. Instead of getting a new supplier we spent three months talking to adidas and then found out that adidas couldn't do us a new kit even if they wanted to. If adidas don't have enough lead time, surely Puma, Warrior, Kappa doesn't take less, so what are we going to get, 25 sunday league outfits down Sports Direct? There's also the pledge to be transparent. I can get the reason not to announce the initial contract break, if it was the new board's wish to resume the contract then they could have done it and we need never know, but why announce it now and not in March. Why not explain what the board is going to do now rather than in the next couple of months, it better be within two months, in two months and two days we're playing our first league game of next season. The only reasons not to tell us now are that they don't know what they are going to do yet or they know and know that we're not going to like it. You might think that I'm going overboard about shirts when there are more pressing matters like our manager and half our team potentially jumping ship but think about it this way, organising a set of shirts for the team to wear next season should be easy. If our board can't even do the easy stuff, can they do the difficult task of building on this team and getting us ready for european competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 You might think that I'm going overboard about shirts when there are more pressing matters like our manager and half our team potentially jumping ship no offence yeovil but... yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Looks like Adidas and Cortese fell out, the new board tried to patch things up when they came in but it was too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 no offence yeovil but... yeah Exactly my point Bearsy as the bit you decided not to quote made clear. Do you think this shows the board to be competent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Exactly my point Bearsy as the bit you decided not to quote made clear. Do you think this shows the board to be competent? If I was honest with you yeovil and to be v.serious, i couldn't really say. I dunno how long i would spend trying to talk adidas round before i give up, or how long i would spend choosing a different vendor, or how much of a problem it causes if i don't release details of my new shirt deal until july. It don't strike me as a massive problem really. I spose obv I'm missing out sales of shirts to people who exclusively buy them to wear on their package holidays, and you do see them people, but in some ways it's prob best not to encourage them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulful Odin Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 This is what has probably happened. Cortese ends contract, New board comes in and tries to save the deal with adidas but they're ****ed off and don't fancy it. Board make a new deal with another kit supplier, but haven't sorted the new sponsor yet (something cortese should have started) so cant release kit. They sort a new sponsor and the kit can be designed, Adidas then respnond to a question on facebook putting this out in the public domain so Saints have to respond. As Aap3 have a contract till July 1st , we cant release images yet so issue a statement to address this issue. I imagine well be told early July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 14 May, 2014 Share Posted 14 May, 2014 Looks like Boruc and the Poland tram are modeling next year's shirts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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