Batman Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 (edited) a few changes. 24 teams in the finals top 2 in each group go through with the top 3rd best teams going through, 8 other 3rd place teams go into a playoff the qualification games will take place from thursday to tuesday, which seems a good idea the hosts (france) who dont have to qualify will make up the numbers in one of the groups and their games are friendlies England in pot 1 Scotland and wales in pot 4 gibraltar in pot 6 (who cant be drawn with spain) Edited 23 February, 2014 by Batman
S-Clarke Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 GROUP E England, San Marino, Lithuania, Estonia, Slovenia
S-Clarke Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 GROUP D Germany, Gibraltar, Georgia, Scotland, Poland
Batman Posted 23 February, 2014 Author Posted 23 February, 2014 Englands group England San Marino Lithuania Estonia Slovenia Switzerland should qualify easily enough. gibraltar get scotland and ireland....
S-Clarke Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 Would expect the Swiss and ourselves to get out of that group without much hassle to be honest.
Minsk Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 It was obvious that Gibraltar would be drawn in Spain's group, and then moved. Completely wrong imo. If Spain won't recognise Gib, and thus refuse to play them, they should have been made to forfeit the two matches and the 6 points. How can you have 2 teams in a competition where they can't play against each other for 'political' reasons?
SuperMikey Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 I'm a Scotland fan, and I think with the team that Strachan is putting together we might actually have a chance of qualifying from that group. It will be incredibly tough given that we'll more than likely be competing with Ireland for a play-off/best placed 3rd spot, but I reckon we can do it. Euro 2016 qualification was our aim when Strachan took over, and even though it's a tough group, I reckon it's very achievable.
bridge too far Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 It was obvious that Gibraltar would be drawn in Spain's group, and then moved. Completely wrong imo. If Spain won't recognise Gib, and thus refuse to play them, they should have been made to forfeit the two matches and the 6 points. How can you have 2 teams in a competition where they can't play against each other for 'political' reasons? What would happen if they both got through to the final? (Unlikely I know ) but hypothetically?
Minsk Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 What would happen if they both got through to the final? (Unlikely I know ) but hypothetically? A very good question, and one I was wondering too. I wonder if there are a load of uncapped Brazilians, Argentinians, etc, that they could give Gibbo nationality too?
hypochondriac Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 Can we refuse to recognise Spain, Germany, Brazil, argies etc. I fancy an easy route to the world cup final.
JackFrost Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 It was obvious that Gibraltar would be drawn in Spain's group, and then moved. Completely wrong imo. If Spain won't recognise Gib, and thus refuse to play them, they should have been made to forfeit the two matches and the 6 points. FIFA are strictly neutral when it comes to individual countries' politics How can you have 2 teams in a competition where they can't play against each other for 'political' reasons? Because they might be at war (Russia/Georgia in previous years), the two countries might not recognise each other as countries (North/South Korea) or the people might hate each other due to historical events (I think Armenia and Azerbaijan have been kept apart since the Soviet Union collapsed) They made the mistake of letting Bosnia and Serbia compete in the same qualifying group a while back and the crowds spent most of both games hurling flares and other missiles at each other.
JackFrost Posted 23 February, 2014 Posted 23 February, 2014 What would happen if they both got through to the final? (Unlikely I know ) but hypothetically? Then they would play each other. In a neutral country it'd be far easier to keep rival fans separate with a large police presence. It was obvious that Gibraltar would be drawn in Spain's group, and then moved. Completely wrong imo. If Spain won't recognise Gib, and thus refuse to play them, they should have been made to forfeit the two matches and the 6 points. That would create an absolutely ludicrous precedent. For example Israel would switch to the Asian qualifying zone and qualify for the world cup each time by barely playing a match, considering practically none of the neighbouring Arab countries recognise Israel as a sovereign state.
bazza Posted 25 February, 2014 Posted 25 February, 2014 Great draw for Northern Ireland: Greece, Hungary, Romania, Finland, Faroe Islands. We still won't get third and a play-off mind you! lol Flights booked to Budapest in September regardless. )
alpine_saint Posted 26 February, 2014 Posted 26 February, 2014 Hopefully a nice short trip down the road for me in June 2015 to watch Lallana, Shaw, Clyne, J-Rod and whoever else comes through take Slovenia apart. I wonder who will still be Saints players by then ?
hypochondriac Posted 26 February, 2014 Posted 26 February, 2014 Hopefully a nice short trip down the road for me in June 2015 to watch Lallana, Shaw, Clyne, J-Rod and whoever else comes through take Slovenia apart. I wonder who will still be Saints players by then ? I thought you didn't give a toss about England?
alpine_saint Posted 27 February, 2014 Posted 27 February, 2014 I thought you didn't give a toss about England? Where did I say I cared about England ? Jesus, the standard of literacy on this site drops by the day...
hypochondriac Posted 27 February, 2014 Posted 27 February, 2014 Why would you go to watch a team you don't give a toss about?
alpine_saint Posted 27 February, 2014 Posted 27 February, 2014 What a daft comment. I like football Some of my clubs players might be playing Its a top-level international, not so far away. I might be going to Austria v Uruguay this week, I dont give a toss about either of those either.
Lighthouse Posted 27 February, 2014 Posted 27 February, 2014 That would create an absolutely ludicrous precedent. For example Israel would switch to the Asian qualifying zone and qualify for the world cup each time by barely playing a match, considering practically none of the neighbouring Arab countries recognise Israel as a sovereign state. Which is fair enough. If you enter a FIFA/UEFA (or anyone else for that matter) tournament, you should have to accept the other countries competing or not take part in it at all. It's hypocritical to say 'hey we want to take part but we don't want to play team X/Y/Z'. If you're in a Muslim country you should respect Muslim laws, so if you're in a FIFA competition you should respect FIFA rules.
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