Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 For those interested in the club's history or for those who just like a gruesome murder. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/11028175.Sinning_Saint_who_escaped_gallows/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Very interesting read. Never realised Freemantle were competing with us in those days. looks as though his time in Fareham unbalanced his mind !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 I found much to interest and amuse in that article duncan, but if you don't mind me saying i sometimes got a bit lost amongst all the stuff about his extended family, of whom i care little. I particularly liked these aspects! On October 23, 1906, an ex-Southampton footballer walked into Cumnock Police station in Ayrshire and quietly informed the on-duty sergeant that he had just cut his wife’s throat. He had always been prone to rash behaviour, including sticking his hand into a fire, jumping through the local constable’s front window and having unprotected sex in gosport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 The marriage produced four sons; Alexander, born in Kent in 1900 (by then, his father was playing for Dartford), identical twins, Gerald and Terence, born in Southampton in 1902, and finally Adrian, who arrived two years later (November 23) two of them still post on here I expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 What a load of old waffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 What a load of old waffle Knew you would be commenting. Whats your problem, did FF steal your hot dog at SMS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2014 I found much to interest and amuse in that article duncan, but if you don't mind me saying i sometimes got a bit lost amongst all the stuff about his extended family, of whom i care little. I particularly liked these aspects! On October 23, 1906, an ex-Southampton footballer walked into Cumnock Police station in Ayrshire and quietly informed the on-duty sergeant that he had just cut his wife’s throat. He had always been prone to rash behaviour, including sticking his hand into a fire, jumping through the local constable’s front window and having unprotected sex in gosport. That is an infinitely better opening line but I wrote the article in conjunction with his great grand daughter and not sure she would have approved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Gotcha, tough to write these tabloid exposés with the family lawyer sitting on ur shoulder. You did get a few good ones past the censor though i thought. This would also explain the morbid fascination with the exact names and addresses of the guy's second cousins or whatever. I dare say GGD got a kick seeing her extended family connections writ big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Fascinating read - thanks Duncan and ignore the pathetic trolls who have nothing better to do with their sad, miserable lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Freemantle's sponsors, T J Dukes, built my house. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 (edited) was that the house with the door you weren't allowed to enter, and when you did it was sex-dungeon or something? Edit: This is from my notes on the subject: um pahars rented a house and they was like whatever you do don't go in the locked room. So he didn't go in there cos he is good as word. Then they kept ringing up every two weeks, "You ain't been in the locked room have you?" and he was like nah, but then he got curious. Anyways one day he went and picked the lock and the door creaked open and um pahars was faced with a whole sex dungeon of old men in gimp masks brandishing dildos etc. Um pahars hesitated and crossed himself, before stepping inside + gently closing the door behind him. He never posted again. Edited 21 February, 2014 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Freemantle's sponsors, T J Dukes, built my house. HTH Living History Um I had never heard of them as a company up until this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 What a load of old waffle Despite the poor nature of this comment I am suprised it got an infraction when there is far worse said on most threads. Are some Posters above criticism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Did he do it in protest because he felt the club wasn't run for the fans anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Despite the poor nature of this comment I am suprised it got an infraction when there is far worse said on most threads. Are some Posters above criticism? It appears you can't comment on Echo articles without infractions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 um pahars rented a house and they was like whatever you do don't go in the locked room. So he didn't go in there cos he is good as word. Then they kept ringing up every two weeks, "You ain't been in the locked room have you?" and he was like nah, but then he got curious. Anyways one day he went and picked the lock and the door creaked open and um pahars was faced with a whole sex dungeon of old men in gimp masks brandishing dildos etc. Um pahars hesitated and crossed himself, before stepping inside + gently closing the door behind him. He never posted again. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 It appears you can't comment on Echo articles without infractions Surely the harshest infraction in SWF history. Plenty of posts are called waffle. Its quite bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 21 February, 2014 just a shame that something like this attracts the reaction it does. Just wanted to post something some people (not everyone I accept) might find vaguely interesting. I found out this story about 2 weeks after "All the Saints" was published. (Cue more digs). Very frustrating but tonight I found out about another ex-Saint who appeared on the stage with Charlie Chaplin in 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 just a shame that something like this attracts the reaction it does. Just wanted to post something some people (not everyone I accept) might find vaguely interesting. I found out this story about 2 weeks after "All the Saints" was published. (Cue more digs). Very frustrating but tonight I found out about another ex-Saint who appeared on the stage with Charlie Chaplin in 1911. Its not your fault of course, and the digs are futile at best. But you must admit that calling a Daily Echo "waffle" is an opinion rather than an abusive, infraction worthy attack? Anyway, who appeared with Chazzer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 For those interested in the club's history or for those who just like a gruesome murder. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/11028175.Sinning_Saint_who_escaped_gallows/ Thanks for posting this Duncan. I was in touch with Lisa a few times just before your article was pulled together so I knew some of the details. I have absolutely no connection with the family at all, just trying to help someone with their research and got involved because of the Saints connection. It remains somewhat frustrating that no-one is able to discover what happened to John after his time inside. Would he have been able to visit the USA with his criminal record? I know it can be a problem these days, not so sure about that in the 1920s though. Its a shame that some on here, the usual suspects, have to ruin anything that is posted, whether of interest to them or not. Still I guess that's what they think helps them with their little ego trips, when in fact it just makes them look stupid time and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Interesting read and story. Thanks for posting it. Keep up the research FF, and the sharing of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 February, 2014 Share Posted 22 February, 2014 Surely the harshest infraction in SWF history. Plenty of posts are called waffle. Its quite bizarre.No infraction can best the legendary "stamping on people's dreams" handed down by Jimmy D to the Turk. Not so much harsh as utterly sad and desperate, to be fair, but it's top of the pops for M-board fractions IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2014 Its not your fault of course, and the digs are futile at best. But you must admit that calling a Daily Echo "waffle" is an opinion rather than an abusive, infraction worthy attack? Anyway, who appeared with Chazzer? Saint Charlie - I have no idea what is this infraction you speak off but the player who was matey with Chas was John Fitchett (1902-03) or page 69 of the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressingon Posted 22 February, 2014 Share Posted 22 February, 2014 just a shame that something like this attracts the reaction it does. Just wanted to post something some people (not everyone I accept) might find vaguely interesting.. Thanks Duncan I am enjoying the book and always welcome any updates or new stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 22 February, 2014 Share Posted 22 February, 2014 Good read, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 22 February, 2014 Thanks Duncan I am enjoying the book and always welcome any updates or new stories. Good makes it all worthwhile thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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