niemi14 Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 If you had to pick your 23 man squad for the World Cup today, who would you take and which Saints players? Mine would be Goalkeepers - Hart, Foster, Forster Defenders - Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Walker, Clyne, Shaw, Dawson Midfielders - Gerrard, Lampard, Lallana, A.Johnson, Chamberlain, Carrick, Sterling, Henderson Strikers - Rooney, Sturridge, Rodriguez, Lambert, Welbeck Found it really hard to pick a squad, think we are lacking in quality in a lot of areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Probably just Lallana - maybe Shaw, although I'm pretty sure Cole will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niemi14 Posted 18 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2014 I rate Ashley Cole highly but if he isn't playing, surely it isn't fair to take him? That's the team I would pick anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 (edited) I rate Ashley Cole highly but if he isn't playing, surely it isn't fair to take him? That's the team I would pick anyway. Agree but we always pick players on reputation rather than form, it's a problem that we've had for years! My choice: Hart (Foster, Forster) Johnson (Walker), Jagielka (Jones), Cahill (Smalling), Baines (Shaw) Gerrard (Carrick) Wilshere (Henderson) Lallana(Sterling) Rooney(Barkley) Chamberlain (Milner) Sturridge(Welbeck) Edited 18 February, 2014 by Saint Garrett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Take Lampard out for Wilshere and Sterling out for Milner and I agree with the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Squad-Goalkeepers - Hart, Foster, Forster Defenders - Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Walker, Shaw, Richards, Jones Midfielders - Gerrard, Wilshere, Milner, Lallana,Chamberlain, Carrick, Sterling, Henderson Strikers - Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, Welbeck My starting XI: (attacking 4-5-1) Hart, Walker, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines OX, Gerrard, Wilshere, Welbeck Rooney Sturridge Almost put Barkley in it but I think he'll just miss out but definitely go to Euro 2016, think JWP will be in and around the squad in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Hart, (and 2 from Foster, Forster and Ruddy) Cahil, Jagielka, Terry, Baines, Shaw, Walker, Chambers (Allready better than Clyne) Wiltshire, Barkley, Barry/Cork, Carrick, Lallana, Johnson, Henderson, Milner, Oxlade Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, JayRod OP has wellbeck and Jayrod - this will not happen. Lambert is of the boil to a degree, but its him or Carroll. I can't stand carrick, think he is useless, but he will go... All this ******** of needing him against possession teams.... Did people not watch him vs Barcelona, utter bystander 101. For me, the best English right back in the premier league, on current form is chambers. Lampard will not go to the world cup. Barring some major injuries. He isn't a first team regular at Chelsea and his fitness is not what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Hart, (and 2 from Foster, Forster and Ruddy) Cahil, Jagielka, Terry, Baines, Shaw, Walker, Chambers (Allready better than Clyne) Wiltshire, Barkley, Barry/Cork, Carrick, Lallana, Johnson, Henderson, Milner, Oxlade Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, JayRod OP has wellbeck and Jayrod - this will not happen. Lambert is of the boil to a degree, but its him or Carroll. I can't stand carrick, think he is useless, but he will go... All this ******** of needing him against possession teams.... Did people not watch him vs Barcelona, utter bystander 101. For me, the best English right back in the premier league, on current form is chambers. Lampard will not go to the world cup. Barring some major injuries. He isn't a first team regular at Chelsea and his fitness is not what it was. The England captain not going then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Sod taking 3 goalkeepers, in the history of the World Cup has a team ever needed to use all 3? I would take a punt and go with an extra striker. Goalkeepers - Hart, Foster Defenders - Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Walker, Shaw, Johnson, Jones Midfielders - Gerrard, Wilshere, Milner, Lallana, Chamberlain, Carrick, Sterling, Henderson Strikers - Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, Welbeck, Jay Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 I hope that Lambert is picked but I doubt it somehow as he seems to have lost some form and pace. I will be surprised if JRod gets picked - but let's hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Sod taking 3 goalkeepers, in the history of the World Cup has a team ever needed to use all 3? I would take a punt and go with an extra striker. Goalkeepers - Hart, Foster Defenders - Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Walker, Shaw, Johnson, Jones Midfielders - Gerrard, Wilshere, Milner, Lallana, Chamberlain, Carrick, Sterling, Henderson Strikers - Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, Welbeck, Jay Rod I like this - although I think Milner is past his best and I simply do not rate Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Sod taking 3 goalkeepers, in the history of the World Cup has a team ever needed to use all 3? I would take a punt and go with an extra striker. Goalkeepers - Hart, Foster Defenders - Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Walker, Shaw, Johnson, Jones Midfielders - Gerrard, Wilshere, Milner, Lallana, Chamberlain, Carrick, Sterling, Henderson Strikers - Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, Welbeck, Jay Rod Article 26.3 of FIFAs WC regulations make 3 keepers mandatory, there is no choice in the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seany S Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Odd that everyone seems to have forgotten Townsend. Not sure that he has been starting for Spurs but there can be no denying his impact recently for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Odd that everyone seems to have forgotten Townsend. Not sure that he has been starting for Spurs but there can be no denying his impact recently for England. Kick and Run is all he does... He has 5 good minutes from the 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Don't think the OP is far off, but Welbeck and Rodriguez won't both go, no chance. Roy will probably take 8 defenders and only 4 strikers.How anyone thinks Cork has a chance of getting in at this late stage is beyond me, it won't happen. Roy has a lot of central midfielders to choose from, my biggest worry is him picking either Cleverley or Lampard (or even worse, both) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Find it very difficult to merge what I'd want, what I think will happen, and what I fear will happen. save you the bother, we're gonna play shit and come home early. I guarantee it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 as this is a Saints forum I would just pick all Saints players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 What I think they'll go with: Hart, Foster, Forster Walker, Johnson, Jagielka, Cahill, Smalling, Jones, Baines, Cole Gerrard, Wilshere, Henderson, Carrick, Sterling, Ox, Lallana, Milner Welbeck, Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert What I would go with: Hart, Foster, Forster Walker, Chambers, Jagielka, Cahill, Dawson, Davies, Baines, Shaw Gerrard, Wilshere, Cork, Ox, Sterling, Lallana, Barkley, Townsend, Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, J-Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 The England captain not going then? In my squad, no! He is a good player of course, but he won't last the pace in brazil, not in those conditions, and not in a tournament. Add to that the need to start blooding the youngsters and the fact that this will be Gerrard's last tournament for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Goalkeepers - Hart, Foster, Forster Defenders - Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Walker, Lescott, Cole, Dawson, Johnson Midfielders - Gerrard, Lampard, Lallana, Townsend, Chamberlain, Carrick, Sterling, Henderson Strikers - Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, Welbeck Think this world cup will come to soon for Shaw. Lallana should definitely go and Lambert as an option and because Carroll has barely played this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Not sure why people think Dawson will go, or even Lescott. It'll be Smalling and Jones instead of those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Roy will take Townsend even if people on here wouldn't. I don't think that Lambert and JRod are really good enough for England, but the alternatives aren't really good enough either, so there's a chance. Lallana will go though. As has been mentioned loads of times, it's all down to which way Hodgson goes with Shaw. There's a good reason for moving on from Cole and Shaw is the future, but Cole has rarely let England down and is undoubtedly class, so is a safe choice. I think they're both good enough, but Cole will probably go. Clyne may have been an outside choice at one point, but now he can't hold down a starting place with us, must be well out of the picture. I'd be amazed if Cork were picked, but I think he could do a decent job. JWP has no chance at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi7s Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Somebody mentioned this on facebook, but I'd not only be massively proud to see Lallana/Rickie/Jay get call ups for England this summer, but to see Fonte and Schneiderlin there would be amazing also. Fully deserved for all 5 imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 I'd take Cork. Possibly above any other Saints player apart from Lallana. Anyone know when the squad for the friendlies is announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 (edited) I'd take Cork. Possibly above any other Saints player apart from Lallana. Anyone know when the squad for the friendlies is announced? Next week I expect, Thursday maybe but as I've said before the club and the player will probably have already been tipped off. The usual system for international call ups is for any players likely to be involved (not always finally selected though) to be pre-selected in which notification is sent to the club, that happens perhaps a month before the game or so, then the final selection is announced about somewhere between 21 and 10 days before the game according to the usual practices of the federations. Edited 19 February, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Goalkeepers - Hart, Foster, Davis Defenders - Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Walker, Lescott, Shaw, Clyne, Chambers Midfielders - Gerrard, Lampard, Lallana, Cork, Chamberlain, Carrick, Schneiderlein, Ward-Prowse Strikers - Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert, Rodriguez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Hart, Forster, Foster Walker, Johnson, Baines, Shaw, Jagielka, Cahill, Jones, Dawson Gerrard, Wilshere, Lallana, Milner, OxO, Henderson, Sterling, Barkley Sturridge, Rooney, Carroll, Rodriguez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Hart, Forster, Foster Walker, Johnson, Baines, Shaw, Jagielka, Cahill, Jones, Dawson Gerrard, Wilshere, Lallana, Milner, OxO, Henderson, Sterling, Barkley Sturridge, Rooney, Carroll, Rodriguez Carroll left Newcastle over 3 years ago now. In over 3 years his total goals = 13! This season = 0 Last = 7 Season before = 4 Season before = 2 We made it into England as a prolific forward with Newcastle. As well as unlikely to score there is a risk his attitude could be bad for squad away for world cup. Think he needs amazing few months to get in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Carroll left Newcastle over 3 years ago now. In over 3 years his total goals = 13! This season = 0 Last = 7 Season before = 4 Season before = 2 We made it into England as a prolific forward with Newcastle. As well as unlikely to score there is a risk his attitude could be bad for squad away for world cup. Think he needs amazing few months to get in he probably doesnt. to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 My team: Hart Clyne Cahill Jagielka Baines - - - - Carrick - - Henderson- - Ox-C- - - Wilshere- - - Lallana - - - - - - - Rooney- - - - - - - - IMO Gerrard gives the ball away too much to be a starter but could make a great impact later on in games. That midfield has enough about it to retain the ball, be combative and counter quickly. I don't think Sturridge should start. He's too selfish and immature in the way he plays for top level internationals at the moment. The rest of my squad would be: Foster, Forster Walker, Smalling, Cole Gerrard,Cork,Townsend, Johnson Welbeck, Sturridge, Carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintrich Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 I know this is 'pick what you think', but Hodgson already practically said last week that he wouldn't take Clyne or Chambers to the World cup, as Clyne hasn't started enough and he wouldn't think about picking someone from the U18 squad at this time with regard to Chambers. For me It will be just Lallana, with one or both of Rodriguez or Lambert making the 30, but being cut when it comes to the 23. Possibly Shaw if Roy didn't take Cole, but a big if. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 19 February, 2014 Share Posted 19 February, 2014 Watching Arsenal game tonight and thinking we so need to take and play as many of our young players like Adam,Wilshire,Barkley,Chamberlain players that are comfortable with the ball at feet and don't panic otherwise we aren't going to stand an earthly against the Germans and other technically gifted countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rut Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 I'll just be happy to see Lallana there and starting a game. A Southampton one-club player. Bring it on. The rest of them? It'll be the usual 'names' from Lpool/Man Utd etc. ROOOONEEEEEEE (in some Peter Drury annoying twtty voice - man, that bloke needs to be shot - worst commentator ever) and GERRRRRRADDDDDDD will be going even if they are injured. Any other Saints? I think it's a bit hopeful. Can't see it happening. One will do though. Good luck Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svetigpung Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 names like Milner , Jones , Cleverly , Henderson and Glen bl00dy Johnsson. FFS were gonna be the laughing stock at the WC if these are the best we can send. Lampard and Cole are past it. Gerrards ok but on his last legs. Carricks dross. Out with the old (who never performed when young!) and in with a bit of yoof. and Sturridge will not be a prolific striker at international level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Hart, Ruddy, Forster*Walker, Clyne, Baines, Shaw, Cahill, Jagielka, Lescott, Richards Gerrard, Wilshire, Henderson, Cork, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Sterling* Rooney, Sturridge, Wellbeck, Lambert, Rodriguez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Lallana is the only one likely to go. Hodgson is a canny old man and will not risk players from unfashionable clubs, as that would give the press an extra chance to attack him if there is a poor result. Remember how MLT was taken apart by the press and that git Danny ??? on the radio after we lost to Italy under Hoddle, Anyway we need our players fresh for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 i think we'll line up like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 i think we'll line up like this: With Johnson playing everybody onside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 With Johnson playing everybody onside. Technically he isn't, because he is deeper than the goalkeeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Goalkeepers - Hart, Foster, Forster Defenders - Cahill, Baines, Jagielka, Walker, Lescott, Shawcross, Shaw, Clyne Central Midfielders - Gerrard, Barkley, Wiltshire, Carrick Widemen - Townsend, Lallana, Wellbeck, Sterling Strikers - Rooney, Sturridge, Lambert We are so devoid of any quality at centre back. I'd be tempted to play Carrick or even Gerrard there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 February, 2014 Share Posted 25 February, 2014 how cleverly ever gets picked for england is an utter joke he is so bloody average it is incredible awful tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 February, 2014 Share Posted 25 February, 2014 Hart Forster foster Clyne Walker Cahill Terry Jagielka Jones Baines Shaw Gerrard Wilshere Barkley Lallana Chamberlain Johnson Townsend Rodriguez Sturridge Rooney Lambert Wellbeck Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 February, 2014 Share Posted 25 February, 2014 Wilshere will be in alongside Gerard Wilshere and Rooney will just play how they see fit and not for the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 25 February, 2014 Share Posted 25 February, 2014 I'd like to see Agbonlahor in with a shout, but I suspect it's too late now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 GK: Hart, Foster, Ruddy RB: Walker, Johnson LB: Baines, Shaw CB: Cahill, Jagielka, Shawcross, Jones CM: Gerrard, Wilshere, Milner, Barkley, Carrick AM: Lallana, Chamberlain, Lennon, Rodriguez ST: Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck Begrudgingly leaving out Rickie and taking Johnson instead, because if Walker got injured I wouldn't be comfortable with having only Phil Jones to play RB - and i'm not even an England fan! For a more attacking formation: ------------------HART------------------- WALKER----CAHILL----JAGIELKA----BAINES ----------GERRARD----WILSHERE---------- LALLANA--------ROONEY----------CHAMBO ---------------STURRIDGE---------------- Or for more defensive: ------------------HART------------------- WALKER----CAHILL----JAGIELKA----BAINES ----------------GERRARD----------------- ---------WILSHERE----MILNER------------ BARKLEY-------------------------WELBECK -----------------ROONEY----------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 I am struggling to see how on current form J-Rod and Rickie will be picked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 I am struggling to see how on current form J-Rod and Rickie will be picked. Won't stop Wellbeck, Smalling and Jones getting picked though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 26 February, 2014 Share Posted 26 February, 2014 I am struggling to see how on current form J-Rod and Rickie will be picked. Think of that old football cliche - "Form is temporary, class is permanent". Hope that helps ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 I see we are not the only ones who think he is rubbish! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2570211/Petition-ban-Tom-Cleverley-England-squad-clocks-3-000-signatures-day.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 1 March, 2014 Share Posted 1 March, 2014 I see we are not the only ones who think he is rubbish! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2570211/Petition-ban-Tom-Cleverley-England-squad-clocks-3-000-signatures-day.html Me and a few others already signed this way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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