Saint-Beer Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Can't believe the amount of dribble I'm reading, "poch should apologies to the fans", "ticket sales will suffer", "clubs not for the fans anymore" and so on. All rubbish!! Poch should apologies ?? Why ? For having faith in our squad and those players who got us this far in the cup?! Ticket sales will suffer? What because of one bad game? Because we only have the league left? So what about getting 8th or above ? Seeing young talent develop in this team full of some great players? Clubs not for the fans? Get a grip, one bad game and we are out the cup does not mean we go into melt down and start questioning the club, it's morals and direction. Makes me so angry to read these silly comments. Don't get me wrong, I was bitterly disappointed Saturday and questioned the line up, but Sunderland made 9 changes and the players we had out should have won. End of. Poch has given us some great football, nurturing talent like Lallana and putting us 8th in the league. Some of you really need to take a step back and think before writing these remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 It sounds like you don't come here often. What you describe is SWF business as usual. It all calms down a bit when we win though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Beer Posted 17 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I do, just generally read and not post. Just frustrated by the comments :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Normally I'd say that there are plenty of threads discussing this already, however I think you've hit the nail on the head. PS I presume you mean 'drivel' not 'dribble' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Made you so angry you had to start your own thread about it! and you're the one telling people to take a step back, good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Can't believe the amount of dribble I'm reading, "poch should apologies to the fans", "ticket sales will suffer", "clubs not for the fans anymore" and so on. All rubbish!! Poch should apologies ?? Why ? For having faith in our squad and those players who got us this far in the cup?! Ticket sales will suffer? What because of one bad game? Because we only have the league left? So what about getting 8th or above ? Seeing young talent develop in this team full of some great players? Clubs not for the fans? Get a grip, one bad game and we are out the cup does not mean we go into melt down and start questioning the club, it's morals and direction. Makes me so angry to read these silly comments. Don't get me wrong, I was bitterly disappointed Saturday and questioned the line up, but Sunderland made 9 changes and the players we had out should have won. End of. Poch has given us some great football, nurturing talent like Lallana and putting us 8th in the league. Some of you really need to take a step back and think before writing these remarks. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11014639.COMMENT__Poch_needs_a_history_lesson_as_Saints_cannot_continue_to_treat_the_FA_Cup_with_so_little_respect/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 You might notice that most of the people on here that went to the game or watch Saints regularly are the ones that are angry. I would say they are valid opinions and probably hold more weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 It sounds like you don't come here often. What you describe is SWF business as usual. It all calms down a bit when we win though Ain't that the truth. I get the sense a lot of people were just waiting for a relative fail so as they can launch exocets at the club. manager. players et al. They've had very little to moan about so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Beer Posted 17 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Griffo, that's probably because you are the type to say the comments I'm referring too. I've watched saints for 25 years, season ticket holder as well. They are not valid opinions but more negative and not very constructive remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I went to funeral in Edinburgh today of a good friend, have to say the atmosphere was a lot more cheerful than this place the sat couple of days. Agree, complete over reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Griffo, that's probably because you are the type to say the comments I'm referring too. I've watched saints for 25 years, season ticket holder as well. They are not valid opinions but more negative and not very constructive remarks. Refer me to comments I've made then? I'm normally fine with a result by the time I'm back in the pub after a game. Saturday is the only time I've ever been genuinely angry at a Saints result/performance/team selection in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 It sounds like you don't come here often. What you describe is SWF business as usual. It all calms down a bit when we win though This should be in the signing up e-mail so that people have a headsup! If you want a break from realism and logic, head on over to the Saintsweb Forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11014639.COMMENT__Poch_needs_a_history_lesson_as_Saints_cannot_continue_to_treat_the_FA_Cup_with_so_little_respect/ Don't people on this site often say that the Daily Echo don't know what they're talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Ain't that the truth. I get the sense a lot of people were just waiting for a relative fail so as they can launch exocets at the club. manager. players et al. They've had very little to moan about so far. Probably because the Troll Control option has been switched off. People just making wild accusations before the game even finishes in some cases just for their personal amusement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 What I find frustrating about this forum is the tendency for some people to mis-characterize the majority opinion. The vast majority do not want Pochettino gone, are extremely happy with what he's done for us, and hope he sticks around for a long time. However, the significant majority also feel that he made errors of judgment on Saturday. Take your pick: fielding a starting line-up that couldn't play as we're best playing, under-estimating the opposition, failing to make changes early enough, failing to understand how important an FA Cup win would be to most fans (and a fair few of his own players). Sure, there was certainly no guarantee that we would win the cup, but going down fighting would have been much easier to handle than the abject surrender we saw at the weekend. And if I'm annoyed about it, having watched it online in the comfort of my own home, I can't imagine how it must have felt for the 900 who - in all good faith - made the long trip. But that's it. The milk is spilt and we move on. Or, perhaps I should say that we move on as soon as people stop starting threads like this - threads which bring out all the over-statement, misrepresentation, nastiness and polarization that continually screw this forum up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 If the players we put out didn't show enough fight and spirit to have a good go at it then hat clearly shows we have no depth to our team, Mopo might have been making a point to those upstairs that we need more players of good quality to actually move on,this may make them rethink the transfer activity in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I would definitely agree with those who say it was a missed opportunity. But it was a 1 - 0 defeat with several first team players. Had we been trounced 5 - 0, 300 miles away from home, having played a youth team, then I would be embarrassed. As it is, we were beaten by a fellow Premier League side away from home with a slightly weakened team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Meh. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has them. Just these days some people need to restate their asshole every 4 posts. In 37 years of watching Saints I have never seen a single player have a bad game, miss an open goal or the Manager make a mistake in either selection or tactics. Honest, really, truly. Luckily I was able to share the spleen venting with mates and got it out of my system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Normally I'd say that there are plenty of threads discussing this already, however I think you've hit the nail on the head. PS I presume you mean 'drivel' not 'dribble' What nail on what head? The OP is rambling against a load of opinions pretty much no one holds. Badger did this exact same thread yesterday. No one needs reminding that MP has been great for us. No ****. We know. This thread, and Badgers yesterday, demonstrate a far more hysterical over-reaction than I've seen from anyone who has said they are sad we're out of the cup. Just people going apes hit at people daring to say they wished we'd tried harder on Saturday. Bedwetting ahoy on this forum from people who seem to want this forum to be like Shoot! magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Meh. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has them. Just these days some people need to restate their asshole every 4 posts. In 37 years of watching Saints I have never seen a single player have a bad game, miss an open goal or the Manager make a mistake in either selection or tactics. Honest, really, truly. Luckily I was able to share the spleen venting with mates and got it out of my system. What did the 6 Finish beauties you and the Dubai golfing saints met in the golf bar just before the game make of our performance? Despite being fans of HJK Helsinki, did they know all about Tim sparv, down beers, know all the words to the Guly song and did you all spend the rest of the night bemoaning our team selection, sloppy performance in between renditions of ole, ole, Guly, Guly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 What did the 6 Finish beauties you and the Dubai golfing saints met in the golf bar just before the game make of our performance? Despite being fans of HJK Helsinki, did they know all about Tim sparv, down beers, know all the words to the Guly song and did you all spend the rest of the night bemoaning our team selection, sloppy performance in between renditions of ole, ole, Guly, Guly? As we're in predictable post mode, I can do Groundhog Day now if you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Ain't that the truth. I get the sense a lot of people were just waiting for a relative fail so as they can launch exocets at the club. manager. players et al. They've had very little to moan about so far. It seems that way. I suspect the silent majority are looking forwards to the next match against football, knowing that the result against Sunderland is 'one of those things'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I am still a little disappointed about Saturday and fans of other clubs at work could not understand why we were not looking to win the cup this season. Best the Hammers and then Liverpool at home and that 6th spot will be getting closer! Hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 What did the 6 Finish beauties you and the Dubai golfing saints met in the golf bar just before the game make of our performance? Despite being fans of HJK Helsinki, did they know all about Tim sparv, down beers, know all the words to the Guly song and did you all spend the rest of the night bemoaning our team selection, sloppy performance in between renditions of ole, ole, Guly, Guly? Send us all a pint of what you're on tonight. As you obviously don't know, our performance was Sh1t, JWP needs 6 weeks of shooting practice with MLT. Lambert has decided he isn't going to Brazil & wants to be You-Tube/Pizza Ad star & Lallana has already been sent a Barn Door to practice shooting against by DHL & we are sending Guly a set of Halogen headlamps so he can practice being a Rabbit caught in them. Oh & we have tried to find someone locally (maybe Heineken) who will sponsor KD's coaching badges. I will be passing these and many more comments on to the team directly from the Chapel End in a couple of weeks, will be in town all day. Fancy a pint? Need any Duty Frees? Could be worse. We could be Hull. How are their forums going right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 If the players we put out didn't show enough fight and spirit to have a good go at it then hat clearly shows we have no depth to our team, Mopo might have been making a point to those upstairs that we need more players of good quality to actually move on,this may make them rethink the transfer activity in the summer This crossed my mind too, was this MoPo's 'Pardew-at-Swindon' moment? 'You expect me to play in the Europa League with this shower of shi7? Get real, I need another 5-6 first team players before we even think about Europe....' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I think MoPo will have learnt alot by our FA Cup exit. Strength of squad. Players good enough for our squad next year etc. I think I can respect him for showing faith in our squad and maybe the fringe players let him down. Or the finishing of SRL and Adam let him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I think MoPo will have learnt alot by our FA Cup exit. Strength of squad. Players good enough for our squad next year etc. I think I can respect him for showing faith in our squad and maybe the fringe players let him down. Deja vu.... Didnt you post this after Sunderland knocked us out of the league cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I think MoPo will have learnt alot by our FA Cup exit. Strength of squad. Players good enough for our squad next year etc. I think I can respect him for showing faith in our squad and maybe the fringe players let him down. Or the finishing of SRL and Adam let him down. And, most importantly, don't play a weakened team in the 5th round when your PL place is secure with little to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 It seems that way. I suspect the silent majority are looking forwards to the next match against football, knowing that the result against Sunderland is 'one of those things'. If you're in the minority in your opinion, pretend that you're in the majority by saying most of your supporters are silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Can't believe the amount of dribble I'm reading, "poch should apologies to the fans", "ticket sales will suffer", "clubs not for the fans anymore" and so on. All rubbish!! Poch should apologies ?? Why ? For having faith in our squad and those players who got us this far in the cup?! Ticket sales will suffer? What because of one bad game? Because we only have the league left? So what about getting 8th or above ? Seeing young talent develop in this team full of some great players? Clubs not for the fans? Get a grip, one bad game and we are out the cup does not mean we go into melt down and start questioning the club, it's morals and direction. Makes me so angry to read these silly comments. Don't get me wrong, I was bitterly disappointed Saturday and questioned the line up, but Sunderland made 9 changes and the players we had out should have won. End of. Poch has given us some great football, nurturing talent like Lallana and putting us 8th in the league. Some of you really need to take a step back and think before writing these remarks. Hear, hear. The whinging on this site by (presumably) grown men is f_ucking ridiculous. Grow a pair then look at the league table is my advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Trouble is that there are too many on here that appear not to understand what is going on with the team. As a unit the team plays attractive, cohesive and for the better part winning football. This relies on every player operating at a very high level personally and there are some players on the team that are operating near the peak of their ability. And when said players drop performance levels individually there is a risk the whole deck of cards falls over. Or when it comes to the likes of Lambert - if he fails - it's usually in front of goal with either the penultimate or the last kick of a move and so we don't score. The above scenario describes the Sunderland game - we don't have a squad overflowing with individually highly skilled players...we have some good players able to play within a system that makes the team collectively great. If enough of the players have a bad day, the system breaks down. Now then, is it Mopo's fault that he chooses to have faith in the system he tells the SQUAD to aspire to regardless of who is available for selection? Is it his fault some key players did not play to their full ability? IMO the answer to those questions is no. Nobody threw the game. The squad is there to be used and the biggest mistake came from a player first on the team sheet. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Trouble is that there are too many on here that appear not to understand what is going on with the team. As a unit the team plays attractive, cohesive and for the better part winning football. This relies on every player operating at a very high level personally and there are some players on the team that are operating near the peak of their ability. And when said players drop performance levels individually there is a risk the whole deck of cards falls over. Or when it comes to the likes of Lambert - if he fails - it's usually in front of goal with either the penultimate or the last kick of a move and so we don't score. The above scenario describes the Sunderland game - we don't have a squad overflowing with individually highly skilled players...we have some good players able to play within a system that makes the team collectively great. If enough of the players have a bad day, the system breaks down. Now then, is it Mopo's fault that he chooses to have faith in the system he tells the SQUAD to aspire to regardless of who is available for selection? Is it his fault some key players did not play to their full ability? IMO the answer to those questions is no. Nobody threw the game. The squad is there to be used and the biggest mistake came from a player first on the team sheet. Next. Your first paragraph explains perfectly why players like Lallana, Shaw, and Lambert were so ineffective in the cup match. It's a team game. With players like Guly and Hoofeld included, and Cork and MS dropped, the system collapses. The blame lies squarely on MP and his team selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejam Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Can't believe the amount of dribble I'm reading, "poch should apologies to the fans", "ticket sales will suffer", "clubs not for the fans anymore" and so on. All rubbish!! Poch should apologies ?? Why ? For having faith in our squad and those players who got us this far in the cup?! Ticket sales will suffer? What because of one bad game? Because we only have the league left? So what about getting 8th or above ? Seeing young talent develop in this team full of some great players? Clubs not for the fans? Get a grip, one bad game and we are out the cup does not mean we go into melt down and start questioning the club, it's morals and direction. Makes me so angry to read these silly comments. Don't get me wrong, I was bitterly disappointed Saturday and questioned the line up, but Sunderland made 9 changes and the players we had out should have won. End of. Poch has given us some great football, nurturing talent like Lallana and putting us 8th in the league. Some of you really need to take a step back and think before writing these remarks. 100% Agree. Still loving this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Your first paragraph explains perfectly why players like Lallana, Shaw, and Lambert were so ineffective in the cup match. It's a team game. With players like Guly and Hoofeld included, and Cork and MS dropped, the system collapses. The blame lies squarely on MP and his team selection. Oh, that's why Lambert put the ball over the bar from 1 yard. Jack Cork was on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Some of us are fuming, some are not. It's quite simple really - for those of us old to be football fans in the 80's and perhaps early 90's, we feel the passion for the cup. I for one was getting really excited about taking my daughter to Wembley and it seemed so likely, almost on a plate. Yes we made less changes than Sunderland but MP should have put his full team out, then if we were comfortably winning maybe then replace a few regulars. Feel unbelievably let down by MP for not taking the cup seriously. Given the amount of money in the PL now, the cup is now much more of a mere bonus competition. A bonus which is almost an extra gift for the fans. MP had no respect for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Can't believe the amount of dribble I'm reading, "poch should apologies to the fans", "ticket sales will suffer", "clubs not for the fans anymore" and so on. All rubbish!! Poch should apologies ?? Why ? For having faith in our squad and those players who got us this far in the cup?! Ticket sales will suffer? What because of one bad game? Because we only have the league left? So what about getting 8th or above ? Seeing young talent develop in this team full of some great players? Clubs not for the fans? Get a grip, one bad game and we are out the cup does not mean we go into melt down and start questioning the club, it's morals and direction. Makes me so angry to read these silly comments. Don't get me wrong, I was bitterly disappointed Saturday and questioned the line up, but Sunderland made 9 changes and the players we had out should have won. End of. Poch has given us some great football, nurturing talent like Lallana and putting us 8th in the league. Some of you really need to take a step back and think before writing these remarks. I don't see why a comment that there were over the top reactions to our failure in the Cup match on Saturday couldn't have been posted on either the matchday thread, or one of the several other threads. You hardly ever post, but you felt the need to start your own thread. Just when most have vented their anger at our exit from the cup and the hullabaloo was dying down, you come along to give the pot another stir. Apart from the comment from FF that the club is not for the fans anymore, I think that other comments have some validity and are the genuine opinions of fans, which they are entitled to hold. Some might be knee-jerk reactions, thus perhaps exagerated a little in the heat of the moment, but they do express the bitter disappointment both at the team selection and the lack of effort from the players and they are just as entitled to those opinions as you are to yours. Ironic really that these "silly" opinions "make you so angry", get a grip man! It's only posts on a football forum. I don't see anybody calling for Pochettino to go, or not acknowledging the fantastic job he has done since he arrived. At the most, opinions have been expressed that either he had greater priorities elsewhere this season, or that he underestimated the importance of a successful Cup campaign to the fans. You don't feel that he needs to apologise to the fans, but a couple of the players read the mood of the fans and did so. Ticket sales will fall? We are talking Cup ticket sales of course and yes, they will the next time around, unless the manager makes the right noises about wanting to win some silverware. After all, if he isn't prepared to have the ambition to win a cup, why should the fans pay their hard earned money to travel hundreds of miles, when they can sit at home and watch them instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Too much beer methinks. It seems a clear statement; mid-table is what we aim for, but why oh why not give the effing cups a bash???? Jeez... that day out in London for the Jhnstones paint pot was fantastic and i will remember that long after the memories of Hull 0 - Soton 1 have gone. OK, I know some are happy with 8th instead of 9th, but NOBODY REMEMBERS THE LOSERS including, i reckon, the losers themselves. 8th? 9th? 7th? 10th? Meh, boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Only a good few wins can go towards fixing what happened. But thinking straight for a minute, it's incredible how many of us are so disappointed that we are 'only' 8th, and would much rather enjoy a nice relegation fight. What do we actually want as fans? If we can't be happy with anything less than Champions League or any other distant dream, then what's the point? Football is about winning ganes, and we've won more than we've lost, which is an achievment. It'll take a while to forget about our cup exit, but I'm going to West Ham on Saturday and will be delighted if we win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Ain't that the truth. I get the sense a lot of people were just waiting for a relative fail so as they can launch exocets at the club. manager. players et al. They've had very little to moan about so far. Was Alpine on the match day thread? /whistles innocently/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 I'm quite sure that if you had bothered to go to the game on Saturday then you wouldn't be telling all sundry how feel or react but as you didn't you can STFU as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Your first paragraph explains perfectly why players like Lallana, Shaw, and Lambert were so ineffective in the cup match. It's a team game. With players like Guly and Hoofeld included, and Cork and MS dropped, the system collapses. The blame lies squarely on MP and his team selection. The point is the system should not collapse - that is the much lauded 'Southampton way'. The fact is that Guly and Jos did nothing wrong...Cork and MS were on the bench...and it was Lallana and primarily Lambert that squandered their chances. Mopo can't say to his squad "listen lads, I only have faith in this 11 players, so don't expect a game...ever"! He has a squad of players that he has to MANAGE - real people, not software algorithms. He does this by coaching a system to all. I repeat, fact is it was the so-called better players that allowed their performances to dip thereby losing us that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 We had our best chance in years to make at least the semi final of the cup and the management totally did not realize the importance to the fans. I am big fan of MP, but he definately got this one wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Oh, that's why Lambert put the ball over the bar from 1 yard. Jack Cork was on the bench.and Cork and morgan would have scored as they are prolific goalscorers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 and Cork and morgan would have scored as they are prolific goalscorers No, but eminently possible that through their intervention in tightening up the midfield together, they may have prevented Gardner from scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 No, but eminently possible that through their intervention in tightening up the midfield together, they may have prevented Gardner from scoring.without a doubt but nothing is certain. What perplexes me most was that the first team players on the day did not perform either and i wonder if something happened pre-match / in the dressing room that unsettled the boat. MP's lack of driving the team from the sidelines was odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 (edited) MP's lack of driving the team from the sidelines was odd Whether letting Perez handle the cup matches is lack of interest or something else, its bound to be perceived by the players as downgrading the game. Edited 18 February, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 The point is the system should not collapse - that is the much lauded 'Southampton way'. The fact is that Guly and Jos did nothing wrong...Cork and MS were on the bench...and it was Lallana and primarily Lambert that squandered their chances. Mopo can't say to his squad "listen lads, I only have faith in this 11 players, so don't expect a game...ever"! He has a squad of players that he has to MANAGE - real people, not software algorithms. He does this by coaching a system to all. I repeat, fact is it was the so-called better players that allowed their performances to dip thereby losing us that game. Let me ask a simple question. If the team sent out against Sunderland's reserves was instead sent out against Hull, and if the team that played against Hull instead was held back to play against Sunderland's reserves, do you think there would be a greater chance that we would still be in the cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 February, 2014 Share Posted 18 February, 2014 Let me ask a simple question. If the team sent out against Sunderland's reserves was instead sent out against Hull, and if the team that played against Hull instead was held back to play against Sunderland's reserves, do you think there would be a greater chance that we would still be in the cup? And would the outcry have been lessened should we have lost to Hull ? How would it have been if we had the lost to Sunderland with a stronger team ? Boruc never made the bench (injured?) and Fonte had a badly gashed leg, so thats those two reserve choices accounted for. That leaves only Guly, who contributed as much as Lallana and Lambert TBH. Mountain and molehill springs to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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