Dr. Kucho Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 After reading all this negative stuff and why are season is over after the FA cup exit, its time for a topic on why the 2013-2014 season is great. So no whinging, complaining, calling each other happy clappers or trolls, just comment on why this season has been great for you/us. Why this season has been great so far for me, - 1-0 win at Liverpool - 4-1 win over Hull - Drawing 2-2 and outplaying Arsenal for most of the game - Osvaldo,s goal against City - Our style of play - Chambers and Gallagher making their debut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Yep, can't wait for my grandson to be sat on my knee in 50 years time so I can tell him about the 2-2 draw with Arsenal, the famous 4-1 win over Hull or Chambers and Gallagher making their debuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Yep, can't wait for my grandson to be sat on my knee in 50 years time so I can tell him about the 2-2 draw with Arsenal, the famous 4-1 win over Hull or Chambers and Gallagher making their debuts. Surely the story of how we signed a player for a club record fee, scored a wonder goal then immediately got loaned out after attacking his team mate and kicking a Newcastle coach in the b*llocks will cause a few nostatlgic giggles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Yep, can't wait for my grandson to be sat on my knee in 50 years time so I can tell him about the 2-2 draw with Arsenal, the famous 4-1 win over Hull or Chambers and Gallagher making their debuts. Hopefully his reading skills will be better than yours I think without doubt the quality of football has been the highlight for me. Evidenced by the number of commentators who say how much they love watching saints play and how good our youth production line is. To get where we are in such a short time actually betters the double promotions by Ted Bates - though I accept this is a different era and what Ted achieved at the time will never really be repeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 (edited) Surely the story of how we signed a player for a club record fee, scored a wonder goal then immediately got loaned out after attacking his team mate and kicking a Newcastle coach in the b*llocks will cause a few nostatlgic giggles? I left that out because that probably will be remembered in future! Being there to see us win for a 2nd time at Anfield was good as well. Not really been a season to remember though. A trip to wembley in the FA cup would have changed that. Edited 17 February, 2014 by Griffo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Saturday apart it has been pretty good. Can't believe left out the 58% possession ave. bettered only by Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Having one or more of our players going to the WC with the national side -the first time in nearly 30 years- would be pretty memorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan abnormal Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Lambert scoring for England with his 1st touch is the obvious highlight for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 It's been a good season, not a great season. It's been a season of progress where we have established ourselves as a solid premier league club. We've played some lovely football, players have got international recognition and there have been some great performances. However it wont be remembered as a great season. The season was effectively over by mid february. What are we playing for now? MP has said he doens't want to play in the Europa league so we aren't aiming to qualify for Europe, we obviously wont make the champions league and wont be in a relegation battle. It seems we are playing to finish just below the European places, so 7th or 8th. What could have been a great season has turned into a bit of an anti climax due to our meek exit in both cups. Even a semi final we could have looked back on as being a season where we nearly achieved something great. Some of us were shouted down for the proposterious idea that we should have gone all out to win the league cup, we were told it was a good thing we played a weakened team at Sunderland in the League cup because injuries there would derail our season. As it turned out we're exactly where some of us said we'd be and instead of potentially looking forward to a comfortbale league finish and an extended cup run keeping the dream of glory alive we're left with two and a half months of playing it out with Newcastle to finish just outside the European spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 It's been a great season so far and it looks like it will finish one as well, but in the cold light of day if in the summer the Manager and / or a few of our best players leave, what will it mean? It'll mean when we had a chance to progress in the cups with one of the better teams in our history we turned our back on it and for no tangible benefit. If, however, our Manager and players stay then it means it has been an even better season because it has meant the club has been able to push on and use it as a platform for further progress. So I'll judge this season on 1st September 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 This season will be remembered as part of a chunk of our history which started in league 1 on -10, the rebuilding of a squad which saw the addition of what are now some true saints legends and more World Class players generated from the academy with an evolution of managers who have all contributed towards us having a distinct and celebrated style of play. In addition to some big wins this season, we are on course to at least equal our highest ever finish in the Premier League with a very good chance of seeing Southampton players represent England in a World Cup for the first time in many fans living memory. We may not have a cup to top it all off but I can't see how anyone could say that this season is boring or irrelevant. I'll always remember this period fondly as it won't last forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 And there might be the problem, and why people are more annoyed than ever about the FA Cup. From L1 to good Premier League side, could this be the peak season? If it is, we'll look back more favourably on it. There's been good results, good football and optimism for many player's future. But there's been plenty of poor results, particularly at home. You can see how minor improvements to the squad could actually have us sitting in really lofty heights right now, certainly well above Man Utd in terms of points, which no-one would have thought possible. Problem is, us hanging on to players is a huge ask. The clubs above us are extremely likely to improve yet further. Outside the top 7 Saints are currently best placed to challenge IMO, but every season it becomes a bit more difficult. We're perhaps better placed than Everton with our money and value of squad, as they can't keep surviving on loans forever. I just don't know. Honestly, we can invest nothing, sell a few players and probably still come 10th. Just look at the teams that have been 10th this season. So do you settle for that, or spend an absolute fortune and come 7th or 8th? Obviously we'd all hope for the latter, but it's a tough one for owners. Big investments for increasingly small and unlikely gains. Fail to invest and we will struggle next season. I think it is important to finish strongly and I bet we are already planning for next season ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Hmm, you're easily pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 (edited) And there might be the problem, and why people are more annoyed than ever about the FA Cup. From L1 to good Premier League side, could this be the peak season? If it is, we'll look back more favourably on it. There's been good results, good football and optimism for many player's future. But there's been plenty of poor results, particularly at home. You can see how minor improvements to the squad could actually have us sitting in really lofty heights right now, certainly well above Man Utd in terms of points, which no-one would have thought possible. Problem is, us hanging on to players is a huge ask. The clubs above us are extremely likely to improve yet further. Outside the top 7 Saints are currently best placed to challenge IMO, but every season it becomes a bit more difficult. We're perhaps better placed than Everton with our money and value of squad, as they can't keep surviving on loans forever. I just don't know. Honestly, we can invest nothing, sell a few players and probably still come 10th. Just look at the teams that have been 10th this season. So do you settle for that, or spend an absolute fortune and come 7th or 8th? Obviously we'd all hope for the latter, but it's a tough one for owners. Big investments for increasingly small and unlikely gains. Not so simple - its not just a matter of 'small and unlikely' gains. Now days finishing 10th more often than not means a squeaky bum to the end of the season and the risk of relegation. Spending 'decent amounts' and occupying 7/8 which is increasingly its own little league gives you that downside protection, at the very least. Edited 17 February, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Has MP been misquoted on Europa League? I recall him saying not a competition that interest him when talking about CL which is not the same as saying does not want to qualify. Moot point after Saturday anyway, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 The problem is, while there are huge positives, the style, the young players, the progress, they all rest on keeping said players and developing further. It's the promise and potential, more than much to really revel in right now. A few good results, Lallana outstanding, but there's an uneasy feeling among many that several players will soon leave. If we hang on to everyone and sign a couple more people of the Lovren sort of quality, then I'll be very excited and positive for next season. I'm just not positive that'll happen. All the more reason to try and enjoy this season best we can (Cup aside) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I quite enjoyed NC leaving it was amusing to watch the press and posters on here prophesising the death of the club within days of NC leavening (players going, owner going, manager going) only for the results to actually improve (FA cup game aside) after his departure. Of course it might go tits up in the summer but is wasn't exactly the instant death people made it out to be. I would say you would struggle to find anyone who hasn't enjoyed the football or our position in the league this season the main argument seems to be whether you consider 8th (or there abouts) in the league with no other trophies a great/good season or merely an enjoyable one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Best things for me- Mostly always exciting to watch our style of play- Young English academy grads all over the place- Lallana- Lots of away wins- Half the squad predicted to go to Brazil with England... ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 (edited) I'll be off to the Norwich game in a few weeks, knowing I've got a decent chance of seeing an excellent Saints performance and entertaining game of football and hopefully a convincing win. I'm fine with that. I sat through a 0-0 on a wet Tuesday night in High Wycombe a few years ago. F**k the grandkids, I'll take a boring, 3 points behind Man Utd in February season thanks. Highlights for me were: - Osvaldo's goal against City - Watching our academy outplay 1 billion Dirhams of talent in said game. - Lallana's goal against Hull - Winning at Anfield - The last minute equaliser at OT - The Arsenal performance - Lambert, Lallana, JRod and possibly Shaw making their England debuts. - Lamberts goal against Scotland - One or more Saints possibly representing England at the WC Edited 17 February, 2014 by Lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 This season has been a good season not a great one. That's why people are ****ed off about the cup. Because even reaching the semi's would've made this a great one. For me i'd say in my lifetime there's been very few great seasons, '84, 2003 and arguably the two promotion seasons were great seasons. The JPT season was verging on being one because we got our club back and won a trophy (even if it was tinpot). I'd also say the 89/90 was a good season much like this that could've been great very easily. Now that's fairly fuc.king meagre return in my best part of 30 years following saints. Still saying that i'll probably be going to more away games this season than i did last in the end and i'm sure i'll have a good few laughs on the way. It just annoys me that people think it has to be black or white, terrible or brilliant, when the reality is that it's more blurred. This season had all the possibilities of being a great one. In my opinion MP bottled that. Hopefully he and the club will learn from this and we won't lose to many in the summer so can have a proper shot next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Watching Lambert bag his 100th League goal for us at Fulham a couple weeks back will be a memory I keep hold of for a while. Going mental when he scored for England with his first touch, too, an obvious highlight. Bragging rights in the office after a win against Liverpool at their place was also nice, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Seeing the back of the rat faced Italian midget pr ick has made 2013-4 a magnificent season. Oh, and Lallana becoming a superstar. He's changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I'll be off to the Norwich game in a few weeks, knowing I've got a decent chance of seeing an excellent Saints performance and entertaining game of football and hopefully a convincing win. I'm fine with that. I sat through a 0-0 on a wet Tuesday night in High Wycombe a few years ago. F**k the grandkids, I'll take a boring, 3 points behind Man Utd in February season thanks. Highlights for me were: - Osvaldo's goal against City - Watching our academy outplay 1 billion Dirhams of talent in said game. - Lallana's goal against Hull - Winning at Anfield - The last minute equaliser at OT - The Arsenal performance - Lambert, Lallana, JRod and possibly Shaw making their England debuts. - Lamberts goal against Scotland - One or more Saints possibly representing England at the WC That's illegal in most countries.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 Our cup runs, we've played a blinder swerving them so effortlessly for the good of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 17 February, 2014 Share Posted 17 February, 2014 I sat through a 0-0 on a wet Tuesday night in High Wycombe a few years ago. F**k the grandkids, I'll take a boring, 3 points behind Man Utd in February season thanks. So did I. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 (edited) He is simply backtracking in the wave of protest , would have given him a bit more respect if he stuck to his guns, I wonder what team he will put out this weekend. Guly perhaps? Not true I'm afraid I thought people had been twisting what he said. Posted this earlier in the week. Agendas people. Has MP been misquoted on Europa League? I recall him saying not a competition that interest him when talking about CL which is not the same as saying does not want to qualify. Moot point after Saturday anyway, Edited 21 February, 2014 by whelk Keeps going to wrong post - user error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 Fail to invest and we will struggle next season. I think it is important to finish strongly and I bet we are already planning for next season ! I really don't think it is important for us to finish strongly this year, to be honest. I'd like us to, but can't see it'd really matter if we didn't. We had a weak end to last year as the season just petered out, and it didn't harm us for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 That's illegal in most countries.......... Even if they're adopted and over 18? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 February, 2014 Share Posted 21 February, 2014 So did I. What's your point? That we've seen some absolute sh*t Saints performances in recent seasons. Compared to them, playing out a 2-2 draw with the Arsenal the result being pointless because we are so much better than half teams in the Premier League seems kind of fun. I enjoy many things in life, I doubt I will tell my grand children about 99% of them. Doesn't mean they aren't worth doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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