Rasiak-9- Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 You make a thread criticising him, and people's one defence is to focus on the utter irrelevence of your joke username. ...and then the thread gets pulled. Proving my point exactly that people just want to bury their heads in sand. Anyway, all joking aside. Can we please have a realistic discussion about how we're going to develop our front line for seasons to come? Persist with the 4-5-1 and bring in a Benteke/Lukaku type striker? Or see if we can bring in a pacey winger and go 4-4-2 with another smaller striker to play alongside Rodriguez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Mate you've just posted a thread with the same intention of the last one to wind people up. In fact it is the same but masked slightly by using the words serious discussion. By using the words Joking aside you have in fact admitted that you purposefully started your last thread as a 'joke' to antagonise/troll and bring down the genuine discussion of this board. In my opinion mods you now have the evidence to recycle this chump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He has been ****ing terrible for ages except for perhaps the second half vs Fulham (when he didnt play upfront) Apparantly Im missing all the good things he does during a game..... Can somone please point them out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Why is it a wind-up? Perfectly valid question. Lambert has been very poor most of the season and his legs have gone. We need at least 2 quality strikers in the summer to replace Lambert and provide competition. He has been brilliant for Saints but is not the same player any more. Very, very poor by all of them today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He has been ****ing terrible for ages except for perhaps the second half vs Fulham (when he didnt play upfront) Apparantly Im missing all the good things he does during a game..... Can somone please point them out ? Agreed. He's simply not very good anymore. It's like playing with ten men half the time. Start Gallagher whenever fit and run the rule over him for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Anyone could see he and Lallana were tired!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Crap game from him after a couple of good ones. I don't have a problem with him starting and I think most of you won't either after you calm down a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Anyone could see he and Lallana were tired!!! apparently that is no reason not to play your starting XI game in game out, no injuries or fatigue tolerated whatsoever. We lost this game when we put out the only realistic side we have available on Tuesday night and kept the engine room on the pitch for 100 minutes or so. We should have signed a couple of new players in January, surely it's not hard to find a couple of lads who are better than Guly and Jos because there you don't need to be a Brazilian international to fit the bill. Cost cutting at work, there's your reason for today's loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He's complete crap as a Premiership striker now, I've been saying it all season. He'll have maybe one good game in ten and that'll keep people happy with him being in the side for the next 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Played ok. In hindsight should have shinned it in rather than trying to stroke it in. I'll blame the coach for his weakened lineup personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He's complete crap as a Premiership striker now, I've been saying it all season. He'll have maybe one good game in ten and that'll keep people happy with him being in the side for the next 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 ^ Such as this guy, who says Rodriguez isn't fit to lace his boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 See that is what is wrong with this forum. A poster provides an opinion which he believes, and rather than you offer any debate as to why you agree or don't you post a facepalm pic. Poor. And for the record I agree that Lambert's best days are behind him. A striker should have been top priority in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 See that is what is wrong with this forum. A poster provides an opinion which he believes, and rather than you offer any debate as to why you agree or don't you post a facepalm pic. Poor. And for the record I agree that Lambert's best days are behind him. A striker should have been top priority in January. Oh.. I've posted opinions on his thoughts of Lambert before. Goes OTT where he is concerned. I agree with you, he is past his best but until we find a class pacey lone striker, he's the best we have and will still likely go to Brazil. We've tried Rodriquez up front on his own and he's clueless.. so we need to break the bank and hope a top four team does not prevent us getting one.. as they are priceless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Crap game from him after a couple of good ones. I don't have a problem with him starting and I think most of you won't either after you calm down a little. He hasnt been the same since his England call up in August / September. Whether that is due to injury, personal issues, or feeling he has achieved all he wanted to Ive no idea - but if we had decent alternatives as we should have, he would have been dropped long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Oh.. I've posted opinions on his thoughts of Lambert before. Goes OTT where he is concerned. I agree with you, he is past his best but until we find a class pacey lone striker, he's the best we have and will still likely go to Brazil. We've tried Rodriquez up front on his own and he's clueless.. so we need to break the bank and hope a top four team does not prevent us getting one.. as they are priceless Lambert probably won't go to Brazil so don't throw a wobbly when you find that out. Rooney,Sturridge,Sterling,Welbeck as likely as not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Oh.. I've posted opinions on his thoughts of Lambert before. Goes OTT where he is concerned. I agree with you, he is past his best but until we find a class pacey lone striker, he's the best we have and will still likely go to Brazil. We've tried Rodriquez up front on his own and he's clueless.. so we need to break the bank and hope a top four team does not prevent us getting one.. as they are priceless He won't go to Brazil unless Caroll gets injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Lambert probably won't go to Brazil so don't throw a wobbly when you find that out. Rooney,Sturridge,Sterling,Welbeck as likely as not. I think he will take 5 strikers as per usual in his squads.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He won't go to Brazil unless Caroll gets injured I don't think Carroll is either good enough OR will have enough time to convince Hodgson he's ready.. That inclusion would surprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 I don't think Carroll is either good enough OR will have enough time to convince Hodgson he's ready.. That inclusion would surprise me How about Rodriguez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 I don't think Carroll is either good enough OR will have enough time to convince Hodgson he's ready.. That inclusion would surprise me Totally agree he ain't good enough, I think he's a skill free donkey and Ricky is a far better player. But when we are inevitably losing and a desperate plan B is needed in the last 10, who better to chuck it into the mixer to than Big Andy? I hope I'm wrong but that will probably be Hodgson's thought process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Totally agree he ain't good enough, I think he's a skill free donkey and Ricky is a far better player. But when we are inevitably losing and a desperate plan B is needed in the last 10, who better to chuck it into the mixer to than Big Andy? I hope I'm wrong but that will probably be Hodgson's thought process. Hodgson's thought process will be whomsoever Rooney and Sturridge feel most at home playing with. They expressed themselves on the subject when Rickie was selected last time. Let's face it they're the 2 strikers who are going to carry the burden of England's goal scoring this summer and if they feel more at home with Carroll he'll get the nod. He's a big athletic lad who can jump and outmuscle big defenders. Lambert is just a fading frontman who drops back into midfield most of the time instead of throwing his weight about in the box. Sterling can put in some wicked crosses and we'll need something solid on the end of them. Do not write Carroll off yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 lets be honest. lambert's form does not warrant a world cup space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 lets be honest. lambert's form does not warrant a world cup space I dunno, England are a poor side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 lets be honest. lambert's form does not warrant a world cup space Current form maybe not but his goals/assists is up there with the rest of our so-called International stars. Don't forget, we are talking England, not a top class International side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 lets be honest. lambert's form does not warrant a world cup space His inclusion in the squad this year was purely down on his form last season. This season he's had a poor one, no glossing over that. Very ineffective, some good games here and there, but unfortunately for him - and for us - his influence on the team is in decline, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Current form maybe not but his goals/assists is up there with the rest of our so-called International stars. Don't forget, we are talking England, not a top class International side. if that is the case, ashley cole deserves to go ahead of shaw lambert has been crap lately bar flashes of brilliance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 His inclusion in the squad this year was purely down on his form last season. This season he's had a poor one, no glossing over that. Very ineffective, some good games here and there, but unfortunately for him - and for us - his influence on the team is in decline, that's for sure. you can see why we were hell bent on signing a top striker. shame he was a nutter I guess, we still need a top striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 if that is the case, ashley cole deserves to go ahead of shaw lambert has been crap lately bar flashes of brilliance But what other options have England got? Sturridge is by far our best striker at the moment. Rooney has been waddling around doing next to nothing, Welbeck - has even been playing recently? Carroll - done f*ck all. Lambert's form has not been as bad as some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 You make a thread criticising him, and people's one defence is to focus on the utter irrelevence of your joke username. ...and then the thread gets pulled. Proving my point exactly that people just want to bury their heads in sand. Anyway, all joking aside. Can we please have a realistic discussion about how we're going to develop our front line for seasons to come? Persist with the 4-5-1 and bring in a Benteke/Lukaku type striker? Or see if we can bring in a pacey winger and go 4-4-2 with another smaller striker to play alongside Rodriguez? He's got a great touch and is very good at set pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 But what other options have England got? Sturridge is by far our best striker at the moment. Rooney has been waddling around doing next to nothing, Welbeck - has even been playing recently? Carroll - done f*ck all. Lambert's form has not been as bad as some. if carroll has a good run in, that will be that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 if carroll has a good run in, that will be that Probably - and to be fair Lambert looked ****ged out today, I'm not sure I would pick him to play a tournament in the tropical heat of Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Probably - and to be fair Lambert looked ****ged out today, I'm not sure I would pick him to play a tournament in the tropical heat of Brazil. if he goes, it would be as the 'target man' he has been crap in that regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 But what other options have England got? Sturridge is by far our best striker at the moment. Rooney has been waddling around doing next to nothing, Welbeck - has even been playing recently? Carroll - done f*ck all. Lambert's form has not been as bad as some. Rooneys been injured and they were raving about him pre injury, Sturridge has been sublime. Then its between the rest of them, arguably J Rods the next best but he isnt a striker. Lambert has been pretty dire TBH, but Id still take him to the WC. Woy hasnt much of a choice to make TBH, 3 pick themselves and then its out of Carroll or Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He was slower than Paul Moody today. Looks injured to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 As I said in your other thread, I believe it's 11 goals and 9 assists for him this season? That's what was quoted on the pre-match build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 lets be honest. lambert's form does not warrant a world cup space To be fair, Carroll's being doing everything possible to not be selected too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 As I said in your other thread, I believe it's 11 goals and 9 assists for him this season? That's what was quoted on the pre-match build up. Yep, and somehow this is crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 Yep, and somehow this is crap... his general play is utter crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulful Odin Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He cant play 3 games in a week. His fitness wasnt ever great which was why he was L1 when we bought him, in the lower leagues you can get away with that but not in the prem. Maybe if we had a squad where we could rotate players he would be back to his best but at the moment we are far too reliant on lallana , lambert and Jrod going forwards. There is literally nothing else with Ramirez out (and even he hasnt convinced consistently). All the teams above us have players as good as those 3 and 3 others to rotate with them so they are always fresh. We dont need to get rid of lambert as hes still very good at his best , like at fulham. its no surprise to me his best game for a while(fulham) came after he had had a rest to recover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He was there to miss his chance, God alone knows how. Something was wrong with the mindset of him and the whole team today. There was no belief, hunger, desire or conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 He is not playing well for the whole 90 mins however for someone playing crap most of the game il take these stats. Goals 9 ( 8 prem 1 Fa Cup) Assists 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 He has been ****ing terrible for ages except for perhaps the second half vs Fulham (when he didnt play upfront) Apparantly Im missing all the good things he does during a game..... Can somone please point them out ?Tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Tool Tell me what he offers to our play ? Genuinely ? He has scored a few pens, but seriously what has he given us since Xmas Fulham aside ? Im not anti-Lambert, I love what he has done for us over the years, he has been great. But if we are looking at thenext level he isnt good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 his general play is utter crap That's b*llocks. He was winning a lot of headers/flick on's in the game yesterday but the only person making any runs around him was Lallana and so they invariably ended up going nowhere. Guly and in particular Ward-Prowse have a lot to answer for in that respect. Tell me what he offers to our play ? Genuinely ? He has scored a few pens, but seriously what has he given us since Xmas Fulham aside ? Im not anti-Lambert, I love what he has done for us over the years, he has been great. But if we are looking at thenext level he isnt good enough. Only one penalty this season you div. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 That's b*llocks. He was winning a lot of headers/flick on's in the game yesterday but the only person making any runs around him was Lallana and so they invariably ended up going nowhere. Guly and in particular Ward-Prowse have a lot to answer for in that respect. Only one penalty this season you div. I count 2, West Brom and Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CougarSaint Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Please think back to Peter Crouch; played for England, then dropped. One noticeable trait of his way is wayward control of arms and elbows when jumping, and he was often penalised by international referees for that, so we were constantly giving the ball back from attacking positions. Andy Carroll has the same lack of control of upper limbs. Contrast Ricky - very neat jumping style, then add that to the goals and assists. How many free kicks does Ricky give away through poor use of arms and elbows? Just an observation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Please think back to Peter Crouch; played for England, then dropped. One noticeable trait of his way is wayward control of arms and elbows when jumping, and he was often penalised by international referees for that, so we were constantly giving the ball back from attacking positions. Andy Carroll has the same lack of control of upper limbs. Contrast Ricky - very neat jumping style, then add that to the goals and assists. How many free kicks does Ricky give away through poor use of arms and elbows? Just an observation... Lambert is very selective as to when he challenges for headers so as to not give away cheap free kicks. Sometimes when watching you want him to get in there, but when you,think about it, it makes total sense. Defensive Headers can go anywhere whilst free kicks are much more pin point, so best to not give them away if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 Lambert is getting on and his form is changeable but the comments on this thread are a joke. Did someone say 11 goals and 9 assists this season? Where the club messed up was signing some nonce Italian hot head who has bailed and left us with Lambert and Gallagher as our only CFs. Otherwise we would rotate Lambert to keep him fitter. The guy is a legend and continues to score goals and assist goals despite people calling him crap. Same people who probably think Carroll is a world beater. Mugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 February, 2014 Share Posted 16 February, 2014 It is amusing that the Poster who started this thread user name is Rasiak, now he was pal Ayer to look up to for for work ethic and teamplay. I can see why if Rasiak is the standard we have to look to why RL is so poor in some eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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