TopGun Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Says the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/12/roy-hodgson-ashley-cole-england-future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Good ! I'm going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 @MailSport: Luke Shaw is set to be called into the England squad for the friendly with Denmark on March 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Should add a bit more to his price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2557906/England-Luke-future-Shaw-set-place-Roys-squad-against-Denmark-spell-end-Cole.html http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/englands-world-cup-2014-ashley-3138975? Seems pretty much nailed on. Best of luck to the lad! Just hope he doesn't pick up an injury again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 When is the squad annouced? Wanna see SRL and JRod get another chance. Still certain that Lallana is gooing barring injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Wow, the progress he's made and has continued to make is outstanding. Just over a year ago we were crapping ourselves that Fox was our first choice left back and an untried Shaw (who I seem to remember a few saying wasn't ready yet after an appearance in a cup game) was our only back up. Big congratulations to him if this is true, the first England debut of many more I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 (edited) Might go now. Just had a thought, how many of Englands first XI would've been produced from our academy (if Walcott was fit)? 4? Edited 12 February, 2014 by BlakeySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Article in OS quotes Woy as saying many saints players are Jon contention. JRod, SRL, Lallana, Cork, JWP, Shaw, Clyne, Chambers all mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 We are Southampton, we're off to Brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Article in OS quotes Woy as saying many saints players are Jon contention. JRod, SRL, Lallana, Cork, JWP, Shaw, Clyne, Chambers all mentioned JWP and Chambers have no chance. The others I would think would all have a chance. Personally I think Cork would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Article in OS quotes Woy as saying many saints players are Jon contention. JRod, SRL, Lallana, Cork, JWP, Shaw, Clyne, Chambers all mentioned Jon Forte is in contention? Good for him. Hasn't played a game in years and he's Bajan. I reckon Adkins had some influence here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Wow, the progress he's made and has continued to make is outstanding. Just over a year ago we were crapping ourselves that Fox was our first choice left back and an untried Shaw (who I seem to remember a few saying wasn't ready yet after an appearance in a cup game) was our only back up. Big congratulations to him if this is true, the first England debut of many more I'm sure. I am pretty sure he will only make one England debut. Fantastic news if this is true. I only hope that if he has a decent game, Roy is brave enough to leave Cole at home on Chelsea's bench, where he has spent most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Says the Guardian. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/12/roy-hodgson-ashley-cole-england-future A whole article without stating that he will be transferred to Chelsea/Man City/Man Utd this summer/last month. Lazy journalism! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 I am pretty sure he will only make one England debut. Fantastic news if this is true. I only hope that if he has a decent game, Roy is brave enough to leave Cole at home on Chelsea's bench, where he has spent most of the season. I didn't word that very well at all! "The first England debut of many more Saints players, I'm sure!" is what I meant (and even that I've worded badly. #tired #hashtagswillnotworkonSaintsWeb ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Article in OS quotes Woy as saying many saints players are Jon contention. JRod, SRL, Lallana, Cork, JWP, Shaw, Clyne, Chambers all mentioned Christ. Can you imagine taking Jrod, Lambert, Lallana, Cork, Shaw and Clyne? 6 Saints players in a world cup squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 The detail. It doesn't ACTUALLY say he will play in The Fail but you can see why it has been inferred he will Hodgson said: ‘Shaw is the obvious one (to bring in) because he has been playing last season and has been in the team non-stop since the start of this season.Nathaniel Clyne hasn’t played all the game and Calum Chambers is an Under 18 international. ‘Before we start really delving in the U18 international team players will have to be really really special if after two games for England Under-18s and suddenly they are in a World Cup squad ahead of the likes of Glen Johnson and Kyle Walker. ‘I think that is asking a bit too much. It is may when we make decision.’ Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2557906/England-Luke-future-Shaw-set-place-Roys-squad-against-Denmark-spell-end-Cole.html#ixzz2tAoVIOBe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 I don't get the Kyle Walker selection. I've not seen much of him domestically but internationally I've thought, meh! Sent from my RM-821_eu_euro1_276 using Board Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Should add a bit more to his price tag. Unfortunately this was my initial reaction too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 hope he doesn't pick up an injury again... Unfortunately this was my initial reaction too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Key thing Hodgson mentioned is that he is and has been for a while a regular starter at club level. Hope Jay keeps his squad place, he has really kicked on since his call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 When is the squad announced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 When is the squad announced? Only when you stop using orange text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 JWP and Chambers have no chance. The others I would think would all have a chance. Personally I think Cork would be great. Had Cork been playing since August, in the form he is currently displaying, I think he'd have been a contender but unlikely to shift the Gerrard/Lampards etc to make the final squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 It's interesting that Hodgson is making more references to players starting for their clubs. Hopefully he shows some bottle and actually applies this rule though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 i think the squads are announced after the West Ham away game so still a couple of games to make an impression - surely Lambert will keep his place in the squad with Carrol hardly playing many games this season, would be great to have Lambert, Rodriguez, Lallana and Shaw all in there as a confidence boost. Gives them a great incentive to play well for the rest of the season as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Think Lambert, J-Rod, Lallana, Shaw and Clyne will get call ups for the friendlies coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Best odds i can find on Lallana to make the world cup squad is 10/11, doesn't seem that long ago he was at 20/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Think Lambert, J-Rod, Lallana, Shaw and Clyne will get call ups for the friendlies coming up. THAT would be superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Great stuff, absolutely no point in taking Ashley Cole to the World cup just to sit on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Great stuff, absolutely no point in taking Ashley Cole to the World cup just to sit on the bench. You're forgetting that he'll be the 'experienced player in the changing room'. Always vital for a World Cup;) Would love to see Shaw and Clyne go, but for me they're both 25/1 outsiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Might go now. It doesn't follow at all, Leighton Baines stayed at Everton. If Luke is capped and being recognised, playing PL football every week and is part of a tight knit successful side in the top eight why would he want to move on. Not everyone is motivated by greed and easy money like Chamberlain, although we can thank his domineering and self seeking Dad for that. In any case, Saints will likely match most offers on salary in the new climate of cost controls on clubs. Of course if somebody like Real Madrid came in with an £80m offer as they did for our former Academy left back.... but it seems unlikely at least until the lad would be about 23/24 and fully mature as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 13 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2014 It doesn't follow at all, Leighton Baines stayed at Everton. If Luke is capped and being recognised, playing PL football every week and is part of a tight knit successful side in the top eight why would he want to move on. Not everyone is motivated by greed and easy money like Chamberlain, although we can thank his domineering and self seeking Dad for that. In any case, Saints will likely match most offers on salary in the new climate of cost controls on clubs. Of course if somebody like Real Madrid came in with an £80m offer as they did for our former Academy left back.... but it seems unlikely at least until the lad would be about 23/24 and fully mature as a player. I think Blakey was referring to whether he will buy a ticket for the Denmark game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 It doesn't follow at all, Leighton Baines stayed at Everton. If Luke is capped and being recognised, playing PL football every week and is part of a tight knit successful side in the top eight why would he want to move on. Not everyone is motivated by greed and easy money like Chamberlain, although we can thank his domineering and self seeking Dad for that. In any case, Saints will likely match most offers on salary in the new climate of cost controls on clubs. Of course if somebody like Real Madrid came in with an £80m offer as they did for our former Academy left back.... but it seems unlikely at least until the lad would be about 23/24 and fully mature as a player. He meant he might go to the friendly to watch it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Luke Shaw is brilliant, but does no-one else think it's a bit odd he has more chance of getting in at LB, where England have 2 top class experienced players, whereas Clyne and Chambers won't get in at RB, where England are poor. Walker is alright, but not brilliant. Johnson is terrible and injured anyway, Smalling and Jones are terrible there, but neither claim to be RBs, and Richards seems to have disappeared. I'd definitely take one of Clyne or Chambers. Offers great natural width and pace getting forward. If Walker gets injured they're screwed otherwise. Go all the way and start Chambers, Shaw, Cork, Lallana, JRod and Lambert v Denmark! Not really. Playing week in, week out for their clubs is quite rightly an important thing for Hodgson, as is versatility across the back 4, he seems to be taking both factors into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 I think Blakey was referring to whether he will buy a ticket for the Denmark game! Ho Hum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Ironically then, Chambers and Clyne's recent switching (admittedly due primarily to injuries) could actually be what holds them back. Had one or the other had a clear run in the side, they might have been better placed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Seems a bit inconsistent though if Smalling and Jones are the back up RBs, when neither play there for their club, and neither have ever played well there. On this basis Cleverley and Welbeck would stand no chance of selection other, or Townsend and probably not Chamberlain or Lampard. Smalling plays at RB for Utd pretty often, played there after half time last night when Fabio went off and Ferdinand came on, he's not at all bad at it and it gives and extra place elsewhere in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 I seem to remember a few saying wasn't ready yet after an appearance in a cup game He was really not very good in that cup game at Stevenage. I'm pretty sure that nobody there would have believed he had a chance of making the World Cup squad this year. It's quite amazing, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Seems a bit inconsistent though if Smalling and Jones are the back up RBs, when neither play there for their club, and neither have ever played well there. On this basis Cleverley and Welbeck would stand no chance of selection other, or Townsend and probably not Chamberlain or Lampard. Smalling played the 2nd half at right back last night didn't he? As I say, it's a combination of playing regularly or being versatile. For what it's worth, the selection of Cleverley is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Smalling played the 2nd half at right back last night didn't he? As I say, it's a combination of playing regularly or being versatile. For what it's worth, the selection of Cleverley is ridiculous. I agree, he offers nothing. I'd rather have Kevin 'I should have 50 caps' Nolan in the squad than Cleverley. Cork or Osman would also be a better choice, at least they keep the ball well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Anyone worried these friendlies are just before the FA Cup 6th round? Wouldn't want this upsetting our cup run with players tired or injured after International duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Anyone worried these friendlies are just before the FA Cup 6th round? Wouldn't want this upsetting our cup run with players tired or injured after International duty. Doubt if Maya will be available, they play NZ in Tokyo Wednesday 5th March so that's a hell of a hike for him between the Liverpool game on 1/3 and an eventual Cup game on the 8th or 9th. Still if we have José and Dejan that might not be so bad but at the end of the day it will be the same 17 players assuming the responsibility so any injuries wouldn't do us any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Anyone worried these friendlies are just before the FA Cup 6th round? Wouldn't want this upsetting our cup run with players tired or injured after International duty. Hmmm. Have we had a bye in the 5th round then? Otherwise, really not worth thinking about til the end of the game on Sat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 If England win the World Cup, we'll be like the new West Ham. Unfortunately we won't win the World Cup and our lads will probably come back tired and demoralised to face an angry press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Hmmm. Have we had a bye in the 5th round then? Otherwise, really not worth thinking about til the end of the game on Sat... Most seem to be convinced that Saturday is only a formality because err we're better than them and the fact that we've had a tough game (sorry no it was a stroll in the park apparently) on Tuesday and they had no game at all doesn't even enter into the equation.Still think we're in for a toughy myself and that we may or may not win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Attempted crossed 88 Crosses completed 17% Needs to work on that side of his game,however in the last few games it has been a lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 If England win the World Cup, we'll be like the new West Ham. Unfortunately we won't win the World Cup and our lads will probably come back tired and demoralised to face an angry press. or want a Champions League team to "fulfil their potential ..."etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumush Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 If Roy is relunctant to select players not getting a regular game for their club will he leave Frank Lampard behind ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 13 February, 2014 Share Posted 13 February, 2014 Luke Shaw is a wonderful player who just keeps getting better - he fully deserves to be in the England side. I just hope that saints can keep him for the years ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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