Batman Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Who do you think in the Champ could do a job for us next season. or, who do you think would do well in the prem I think, should burnley fail to go up. Danny Ings would be a great addition
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 I don't think any could step up and do a job at Prem level yet, but Will Hughes will likely be a very good player in the Prem in a few years.
SuperSAINT Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Good shouts so far. Does Ince still count?
Batman Posted 9 February, 2014 Author Posted 9 February, 2014 I don't think any could step up and do a job at Prem level yet, but Will Hughes will likely be a very good player in the Prem in a few years. ours did alright morgan, fonte, clyne, lambert, lallana and rodriguez all did well enough in their first season?
SuperMikey Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 I like the look of Jamie Paterson from Forest - he scored an excellent hat-trick against West Ham in the last round of the FA Cup. Good technique, pacy and tricky with an eye for goal. Can play inside the striker too, so a nice versatile option for us up top.
Turkish Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 A familiar name to us, Michael Antonio, he is going to be class, a top premier league player.
S-Clarke Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Bamford, will score goals at any level. Chelsea have snapped him up, but let's be honest, he'll never play for them as their youth set-up is a non-event. Also like Hughes, but not really a player we need. Not sure where I'd play him in our side. GK McCarthy is a good player, but he dropped a clanger yesterday. Still got a lot to learn and I think we'll go for someone more experienced and proven in goal. We had our fingers burnt with Gazzaniga, so doubt we'll do that again.
nta786 Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Julio Caesar He would be a good option to have and would offer competition to Boruc... But it won't happen. Benoit Assou Ekotto would be a great back up to Shaw IMO... But again, it won't happen... The only player I'd consider is Danny Ings (who is a Saints fan too I think ), but even then he might not make it in the Prem.
S-Clarke Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Julio Caesar He would be a good option to have and would offer competition to Boruc... But it won't happen. Benoit Assou Ekotto would be a great back up to Shaw IMO... But again, it won't happen... The only player I'd consider is Danny Ings (who is a Saints fan too I think ), but even then he might not make it in the Prem. I think Ekotto is pretty average tbh. Would prefer we put our efforts into training up Targett so he becomes the backup.
SuperSAINT Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Where did Chelsea nick Bamford from? Noticed he was scoring goals for fun at league 1, and has carried on in the championship too. Probably worth keeping our eyes Trippier too.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Where did Chelsea nick Bamford from? Noticed he was scoring goals for fun at league 1, and has carried on in the championship too. Probably worth keeping our eyes Trippier too. They signed him from the Nottingham Forest Youth Team after he stuck 5 past us in the FA Youth Cup.
nta786 Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 I think Ekotto is pretty average tbh. Would prefer we put our efforts into training up Targett so he becomes the backup. Oh yeah, forgot about Matthew Targett :/ Would deffo like to see him play actually...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Probably worth keeping our eyes Trippier too. Why? When we have two very good right backs who are both younger than Trippier.
CB Fry Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 A familiar name to us, Michael Antonio, he is going to be class, a top premier league player. He'll be even better in the Premier League as he'll get far more time and space on the ball than he does currently in the Championship.
SuperMikey Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 They signed him from the Nottingham Forest Youth Team after he stuck 5 past us in the FA Youth Cup. I was at that game - he was a class above. Hope he does well, although I doubt he'll be given much of a chance at Chelsea.
Batman Posted 9 February, 2014 Author Posted 9 February, 2014 Based on? I haven't seen much of him. Seen plenty score loads of goals in lower league and be rubbish in the top flight though. Is his touch good enough? His passing and technique? With Lambert you could watch him each week and feel confident he'd have the ability and attitude for the top flight. That's pretty rare though. Goal tally alone isn't enough IMO. yes it is. seen plenty of him. good all rounder
SuperSAINT Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Why? When we have two very good right backs who are both younger than Trippier. Didn't say sign him - I said keep an eye on him. (I was posted it about 1 minute after reading about Arsenal wanting Chambers, so was probably swayed by that).
pangy Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Went to the Brum vs Derby game the other day and a couple of Derby players stood out,Bamford,Hughes and the Left Back Forsythe,the only one that looked like he could make the grade was Hughes,he did look a bit lightweight but he was a very composed midfielder with quick feet.Derby will sell him soon but I would imagine they want a kings ransom for him
SuperSAINT Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Went to the Brum vs Derby game the other day and a couple of Derby players stood out,Bamford,Hughes and the Left Back Forsythe,the only one that looked like he could make the grade was Hughes,he did look a bit lightweight but he was a very composed midfielder with quick feet.Derby will sell him soon but I would imagine they want a kings ransom for him £8M-10M I think.
tajjuk Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 We have JWP who I think is better and will be better than Hughes and the play similar positions. A young promising goalkeeper would be good.
supersonic Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Whoever said Alex McCarthy needs their head looked at, average Championship keeper at best. Had 1 good game in the PL but that's as far as it goes. I still think Charlie Austin will be a decent (not world-beating) PL striker (about 12-16 league goals) Morgan and Drinkwater from Leicester look to be fairly decent, and Will Hughes of Derby looks like a top player. Also heard the fat striker for Donny is capable of doing a job in the PL
Patrick Bateman Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Whoever said Alex McCarthy needs their head looked at, average Championship keeper at best. Had 1 good game in the PL but that's as far as it goes. I still think Charlie Austin will be a decent (not world-beating) PL striker (about 12-16 league goals) Morgan and Drinkwater from Leicester look to be fairly decent, and Will Hughes of Derby looks like a top player. Also heard the fat striker for Donny is capable of doing a job in the PL The one that was sent off this weekend for a bit of a tussle? Hmmm. Unless he blows the the league away (after his suspension), we are well rid in the summer.
supersonic Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 The one that was sent off this weekend for a bit of a tussle? Hmmm. Unless he blows the the league away (after his suspension), we are well rid in the summer. I was being sarcastic, he's average in that league at best
Rebel Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Danny Ings, Charlie Austin, Kieran Trippier, Henri Lansbury could all step up to the Prenier League
teenagegsaint Posted 9 February, 2014 Posted 9 February, 2014 Will Hughes, Jamaal Lascelles and Karl Darlow would all be good additions
SNSUN Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 There's a young centre back at Sheffield United (OK, League One, not Championship. Meh) that's been getting rave reviews, Harry Maguire. Apparently Man U had the scouts looking at him last year. He's been a first choice centre back for them for a couple of years now, and he's only 20. 6'4'' too, definite potential. He's Sheffield born and bred but with United where they are, surely it wouldn't be THAT difficult to get him to leave...
RonManager Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 There's a young centre back at Sheffield United (OK, League One, not Championship. Meh) that's been getting rave reviews, Harry Maguire. Apparently Man U had the scouts looking at him last year. He's been a first choice centre back for them for a couple of years now, and he's only 20. 6'4'' too, definite potential. He's Sheffield born and bred but with United where they are, surely it wouldn't be THAT difficult to get him to leave... Aye - 'appen as not as like as maybe, I'll tell theh.
SNSUN Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 Aye - 'appen as not as like as maybe, I'll tell theh. Ha! You can take the boy out of Sheffield, but... etc etc
BlakeySFC Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 I'd argue 0 if we actually want to push forward and get in the Champs League some time in the next 3/4/5/6 years.
Bearsy Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 quite like that young centre back that plays for fulham. He'll be championship next season.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 (edited) I'd argue 0 if we actually want to push forward and get in the Champs League some time in the next 3/4/5/6 years. Tottenham signed Gareth Bale from a Championship club and Arsenal signed Walcott and Chamberlain from a Championship club, to make a sweeping statement that no Championship player will be good enough is daft. Lallana, Cork, Lambert, Schneiderlin, Clyne, Rodriguez etc all made the step up well. Edited 10 February, 2014 by Matthew Le God
Badger Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 Whoever said Alex McCarthy needs their head looked at, average Championship keeper at best. Had 1 good game in the PL but that's as far as it goes. Time will tell.
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 I'd argue 0 if we actually want to push forward and get in the Champs League some time in the next 3/4/5/6 years. Shows what an ignoramus you are then really.
ottery st mary Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 (edited) quite like that young centre back that plays for fulham. He'll be championship next season. Dan Burn does look good...although a few rough edges.. As expected 6'7" good in the air.....looked mobile and got stuck in when required.. Only 21 and has had various loans..Birmingham for example. Would cost money as other teams interested.. My question would be....Poch would have to decide IF Turnbull /Stephens 19/20 years will progress this/next season ..As good as someone like Burn? OR even Debayo/McCarthy..17/18 years following season if not before.......... Over to you coach:D Poch would be good for Dan Burn as well as our own crop..........like all young centre halfs.......positioning / strength etc Edited 10 February, 2014 by ottery st mary
Chez Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 I'd argue 0 if we actually want to push forward and get in the Champs League some time in the next 3/4/5/6 years. I wouldn't suggest a policy of only buying from that level, but there is no reason why we shouldn't look at the gems coming through, especially young talent. The Chelsea/Man City way of squad building is fine if you have the cash, but the likes of Arsenal, Everton and Spurs have all bought young players from the second tier (or below) to complement International signings. I doubt there is a manager in the Prem league that doesn't wish they had signed Bale when they had the chance.
Le Timmier Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 The thing is, how would people feel about a signing from (e.g.) the Dutch Eredivisie or the Danish Superliga? They're the top divisions in their respective countries, but is the overall standard actually much different from the Championship? Maybe their Champions League representatives are playing at a higher level, but what about the rest of the league? It just seems to me that fans are ready to place more faith in a foreign signing from a 'top' division than we would in a Championship signing, but the standard of league is arguably similar.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 The thing is, how would people feel about a signing from (e.g.) the Dutch Eredivisie or the Danish Superliga? They're the top divisions in their respective countries, but is the overall standard actually much different from the Championship? Maybe their Champions League representatives are playing at a higher level, but what about the rest of the league? It just seems to me that fans are ready to place more faith in a foreign signing from a 'top' division than we would in a Championship signing, but the standard of league is arguably similar. Have you not seen the reaction players linked get on here? "I don't want us to sign no Carlos Kickball" etc. If anything, I think people (on here at least) would be more open to Championship signings than foreign imports.
Badger Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 Have you not seen the reaction players linked get on here? "I don't want us to sign no Carlos Kickball" etc. If anything, I think people (on here at least) would be more open to Championship signings than foreign imports. I'm not making a case either way, you can bring in excellent imports (Lovren for one), but in recent history our championship signings ( Clyne and Rodriguez), have perhaps adapted better than our more glamorous imports from Serie A. So possibly the reluctance to "Carlos Kickball" from some is understandable. It may be that the clubs obsession with Serie A has diminished in the light of these experiences, and NC's departure.
Le Timmier Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 Plenty would, I agree. But I also think plenty have a more short-sighted view & would rather see us linked with players from (e.g.) Brondby or FC Utrecht because of a perception that they are playing at a higher level than the Championship and not having to make such a step up.
saintbob40 Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 I wonder how many of these players we could have purchased with all the money we spent on Ramirez, El Head Butt and Big Vic.......not to mention Mayuka, Forren, Lee......
Badger Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 Plenty would, I agree. But I also think plenty have a more short-sighted view & would rather see us linked with players from (e.g.) Brondby or FC Utrecht because of a perception that they are playing at a higher level than the Championship and not having to make such a step up. If the players here for example are Danish or Dutch u21's or on the fringe of the national squads then I'd expect them to be worth a look. Last summer, and possibly last Jan, we were linked with a Danish lad playing in Italy ( CB at c£6m or so). Wouldn't the clever thing to be to try bringing him I from Denmark as a fraction of that cost ? (no doubt have Steve De Ridder thrown back at me.).
Le Timmier Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 If the players here for example are Danish or Dutch u21's or on the fringe of the national squads then I'd expect them to be worth a look. Last summer, and possibly last Jan, we were linked with a Danish lad playing in Italy ( CB at c£6m or so). Wouldn't the clever thing to be to try bringing him I from Denmark as a fraction of that cost ? Sorry for any confusion mate, my previous post was in response to KRG (the post before yours) In terms of what you say about U21's - yes absolutely - and there's most probably bags of talent besides in those leagues worth scouting, just as there is in the Championship.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 Plenty would, I agree. But I also think plenty have a more short-sighted view & would rather see us linked with players from (e.g.) Brondby or FC Utrecht because of a perception that they are playing at a higher level than the Championship and not having to make such a step up. I think, perhaps we are both guilty of generalising a little bit On the OP - would love Hughes from Derby. Argument that it isn't exactly what we need may be valid, but having lots of good players in a given position is never a bad thing. Better that than having too few, I fear.
Chez Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 I think, perhaps we are both guilty of generalising a little bit On the OP - would love Hughes from Derby. Argument that it isn't exactly what we need may be valid, but having lots of good players in a given position is never a bad thing. Better that than having too few, I fear. Perhaps we can start by hoarding a few of the best young keepers coming through and then loaning them out to ensure they keep improving. Any stand out young player in the championship like bale or chamberlain,dare I say it ince should be on our radar. In fact Ince is the perfect example. I wonder if we bid for him.
JoeShmoe Posted 10 February, 2014 Posted 10 February, 2014 Danny Ings, Charlie Austin, Kieran Trippier, Henri Lansbury could all step up to the Prenier League This, plus Maguire, plus Burn and Sidwell from Fulham when they do down
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