croydonsaint Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Surely now is the time for Katrina to 1. Come out and unequivocally commit to having no intention selling the club at least in the next 5 years 2. At the same time convince pochettino to sign a new extended contract 3. Make it clear that the likes of Shaw, Chambers etc. will categorically not be sold and if possible extend there contracts. Please! We are at a gateway in my opinion of the real opportunity in the next 2 or 3 years to break in to the top 6 or alternatively if the above does not happen to see us at best be a Premier league 2nd or relegation tier team. I was talking to a Spurs supporter the other day and he was 100% certain that we or for that matter any other team outside the top 7 would never break in to their elite top group. He may be proved right but I would so love to see that total arrogance and certainty of these "elite" clubs fans questioned and shoved down there throats............ With a period of stability and continuing improvement it can happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Surely now is the time for Katrina to 1. Come out and unequivocally commit to having no intention selling the club at least in the next 5 years 2. At the same time convince pochettino to sign a new extended contract 3. Make it clear that the likes of Shaw, Chambers etc. will categorically not be sold and if possible extend there contracts. Please! We are at a gateway in my opinion of the real opportunity in the next 2 or 3 years to break in to the top 6 or alternatively if the above does not happen to see us at best be a Premier league 2nd or relegation tier team. I was talking to a Spurs supporter the other day and he was 100% certain that we or for that matter any other team outside the top 7 would never break in to their elite top group. He may be proved right but I would so love to see that total arrogance and certainty of these "elite" clubs fans questioned and shoved down there throats............ With a period of stability and continuing improvement it can happen! And the reason that you felt the need to start another thread almost identical to another current one is.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Surely now is the time for Katrina to 1. Come out and unequivocally commit to having no intention selling the club at least in the next 5 years 2. At the same time convince pochettino to sign a new extended contract 3. Make it clear that the likes of Shaw, Chambers etc. will categorically not be sold and if possible extend there contracts. Please! We are at a gateway in my opinion of the real opportunity in the next 2 or 3 years to break in to the top 6 or alternatively if the above does not happen to see us at best be a Premier league 2nd or relegation tier team. I was talking to a Spurs supporter the other day and he was 100% certain that we or for that matter any other team outside the top 7 would never break in to their elite top group. He may be proved right but I would so love to see that total arrogance and certainty of these "elite" clubs fans questioned and shoved down there throats............ With a period of stability and continuing improvement it can happen! Why is now surely the time? Is it because you are just needing some reassurance to make you feel more secure? Even if all three things happened (unlikely) there will just be something else to fret about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 The time is at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 The time is at the end of the season. Dunno about that - we should already be laying plans inc Pochettino's new contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Dunno about that - we should already be laying plans inc Pochettino's new contract Maybe we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 1 she has 2 he's not half way through his latest new contract 3 she has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 We do our business privately. It's the Southampton way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Why the need to know...why the need to be reassured...why the hand-wringing anxiety? IMO this is a modern social networking thing where people take pictures of the meal they're eating and post it to the world...it's immature...it's needless. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the ride, there is plenty left in this season to enjoy...FA Cup this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 The time is at the end of the season. Agreed. Let us secure our premier league status first then see how far up the league we finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Why is now surely the time? Is it because you are just needing some reassurance to make you feel more secure? Even if all three things happened (unlikely) there will just be something else to fret about. Its cos he's just wet his bed again and Mummy's really annoyed with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 A bit arbitrary OP, what kind of response did you expect other than derision? I'm sure though that the Liebherr Family will have taken full note of your concerns and will be in touch soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Its cos he's just wet his bed again and Mummy's really annoyed with him The sound of this thread... http://www.sounddogs.com/sound-effects/101/mp3/142088_SOUNDDOGS__ki.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 (edited) We don't even have our new Board yet, so how we could expect Pochettino to commit himself to the club I don't know. He's said he'll be here until the end of the season. Then we have two challenges - the first is whether or not a better club is interested. If not then the second are the conditions that he would be happy to stay at the club for. I think we've got a good shot at keeping him if no better club comes in for him and at a sporting and operational level we: 1. Reward him and his team for their great work (not just progress the team has made, but also the way he has integrated our young players which has seen them develop and worth massive amounts of money) 2. Satisfy him that the new structure at a Board level won't impact the way he wants to run the team (I have a horrible feeling we'll be appointing a DoF and that this new Kruger guy sounds like bad news - I hope I am wrong) 3. Satisfy him that he will continue to receive backing in the transfer market so he can believe this team can progress. 4. Take a hard-nosed approach to keeping our players. 1. and 3. shouldn't be a problem because of the money we've got as a Premier League club, 2. and 4. are harder and where I worry. Edited 9 February, 2014 by Lallana's Left Peg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Can we please at least spell the name of our owner correctly? Katharina, not Katrina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Why the need to know...why the need to be reassured...why the hand-wringing anxiety? IMO this is a modern social networking thing where people take pictures of the meal they're eating and post it to the world...it's immature...it's needless. Just sit back, relax and enjoy the ride, there is plenty left in this season to enjoy...FA Cup this weekend. To be fair, what on earth has your pet peeve about that phenomenon of people being a bit overexcited about their meals got to do with the OP?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 To put my worried... fellow posters:rolleyes: minds to rest.... So they can sleep at night:mcinnes: I am reliably informed by my mate in the pub......ITK about everything:smug: That there are lots of plans on the drawing board at St Marys and the powers to be have all you ask and more...well in hand:D Stop all your worries...enjoy the mighty Saints.......We are in good hands:) If Messi does not arrive soon...even I will start to question our objectives:p Sorry you trolls....just the happy clapper in me:D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 IMO something is going on regarding long term plans but I'm not sure what. Poch is certainly being economic with the truth. It is a fact that he was in st Mary's at least 30 mins before speaking to saints player and then doing the presser when he met katherina for "5 mins". wasnt it also common knowledge they recently met for dinner? Also she has been at every home game since cortese left (very encouraging) and they've not spoken? Sure..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 (edited) Surely now is the time for Katrina to 1. Come out and unequivocally commit to having no intention selling the club at least in the next 5 years ............. Are you going to commit yourself to staying at your job in the next 5 years.? 2. At the same time convince pochettino to sign a new extended contract ............... If he doesn't re-sign ...will you tear up your season ticket in protest? 3. Make it clear that the likes of Shaw, Chambers etc. will categorically not be sold and if possible extend the ir contracts...even when the bidding reaches £40 miilion, and we have an Academy replacement? Edited 9 February, 2014 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 The time is at the end of the season. I think in the timescale of which Croydonsaint has been a fan (since the 60's), "now" is probably a relative term. Having seen plenty of false dawns in the clubs history before, this is one of the best teams we've had - with the academy products, international quality and coaching staff - we have the nucleus of the greatest saints team ever. For us, teams like this don't come around too often and so I think that after years of ups and downs, its not too much of croydonsaint to want a little stability and some reassurances from the club. So i think that "now" is, historically, the perfect time if we want to see anything that equates to, or gets near to, success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 9 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Hey, just thought I should post [now I am back on my 3 posts for the day] First of all I do agree the tone of my op wasn't quite right so perhaps it deserved some of the stick it received. [mind there are some right **** heads on this site] It just feels like we are at a very key cross roads. I always felt that Corteses agenda although coinciding with our aspirations was as much about what was in it for him and it was no surprise when he dropped us cold. With Katharina I feel she is sympathetic to the history of the club she owns and to the fans. So I do feel that if she does not sell and Pocchetino stays we would stand a real chance of being an "outsider" making it into the top 6. At the end of the day I will support saints what ever happens and will watch what unfolds in the coming months with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Can we please at least spell the name of our owner correctly? Katharina, not Katrina. Nearly 5 years on and people still can't spell Markus' name right either. I wouldn't hold out much hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Nearly 5 years on and people still can't spell Markus' name right either. I wouldn't hold out much hope. Don't understand why people can't spell the Liberhers names, they are our owners FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 To be fair, what on earth has your pet peeve about that phenomenon of people being a bit overexcited about their meals got to do with the OP?? Perhaps I didn't use the right analogy...better to say, the current need to know and share everything with everyone. Past times we didn't need to know the minutiae of the running of the club...now not knowing it all is taken as a hidden agenda rather than the normal running of a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croydonsaint Posted 9 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 9 February, 2014 Surely now is the time for Katrina to 1. Come out and unequivocally commit to having no intention selling the club at least in the next 5 years ............. Are you going to commit yourself to staying at your job in the next 5 years.? 2. At the same time convince pochettino to sign a new extended contract ............... If he doesn't re-sign ...will you tear up your season ticket in protest? 3. Make it clear that the likes of Shaw, Chambers etc. will categorically not be sold and if possible extend the ir contracts...even when the bidding reaches £40 miilion, and we have an Academy replacement? Just thought I would answer your questions. 1. No I am not going to commit myself to staying in my job for the next 5 years, [although I probably will] but I am not the owner of S.F.C. The 5 years was an arbitrary figure but under the circumstances now if that is her intention then it would be a very positive thing to make that commitment public 2. If I did have a season ticket I would tear it up 3.Perfectly fair point you make regarding if the bidding gets to 40 million with an academy of replacements but I just feel that if we are to make that next step up surely we should do everything keep these players at any cost. More to the point we would be in a position where these players would not need to move [OK I am being optimistic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 I was talking to a Spurs supporter the other day and he was 100% certain that we or for that matter any other team outside the top 7 would never break in to their elite top group. He may be proved right but I would so love to see that total arrogance and certainty of these "elite" clubs fans questioned and shoved down there throats............ With a period of stability and continuing improvement it can happen! It wasn't long ago that Man City managed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 IMO something is going on regarding long term plans but I'm not sure what. Poch is certainly being economic with the truth. It is a fact that he was in st Mary's at least 30 mins before speaking to saints player and then doing the presser when he met katherina for "5 mins". wasnt it also common knowledge they recently met for dinner? Also she has been at every home game since cortese left (very encouraging) and they've not spoken? Sure..... What are you implying old chap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 It wasn't long ago that Man City managed it. And how much did they spend to do so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Look at Spurs as a better example then, it wasn't that long ago they were in the relegation zone under Ramos and looking done for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 I can see your point there, and agree that we can push on and do what they have done and break into the top 6, but, as OP says, we need to keep hold of current squad (and add to it) if we have any chance of doing so, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 What are you implying old chap? im implying he is talking ****. IMO he has already agreed an exit at the end of the season or he has a verbal agreement on a new contract.... I know, I know, nothing like hedging your bets! which one I have no idea, but there is no way they have only spoken for 5 mins, no way, horse ****. Poch has some idea of what the future holds he is not stupid and blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 The MALI company Katrina runs is pretty much just an investment vehicle, buying, selling and investing in different businesses. One would assume to make money. The investment to date is around 40 million and we can only guess at what the club is worth now, but obviously considerably more than that and any sale would show a healthy profit. The problem we have got is that without significant amounts of further investment (Champions league), the clubs value is not likely to change, in fact we have probably peaked in terms of value. What is also worth considering is that we have financed the last two years through external loans, mortgaged against every asset the club has - some people suggest that this might be for tax breaks, well those tax breaks were always available when the family was pumping money into the club and we didn't use them then and given the interest payable, I think it is a fairly reasonable conclusion, that we are no longer being bankrolled. So a company used solely for investments, has one of (If not the single biggest) its biggest assets, that would show a 50 million (Guesstimate) profit in five years or without any guaranteed chance of success, would need a further 50 million + pumped in, to see any significant change in value. My money is that we will be sold and that we are "For sale" right now. The fun begins when we get to dissect the new owners and understand the terms of the deal, but the Liebherrs have been nothing short of fantastic for this club and I would expect Katrina to protect her fathers legacy, by finding the right buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 The MALI company Katrina runs is pretty much just an investment vehicle, buying, selling and investing in different businesses. One would assume to make money. The investment to date is around 40 million and we can only guess at what the club is worth now, but obviously considerably more than that and any sale would show a healthy profit. The problem we have got is that without significant amounts of further investment (Champions league), the clubs value is not likely to change, in fact we have probably peaked in terms of value. What is also worth considering is that we have financed the last two years through external loans, mortgaged against every asset the club has - some people suggest that this might be for tax breaks, well those tax breaks were always available when the family was pumping money into the club and we didn't use them then and given the interest payable, I think it is a fairly reasonable conclusion, that we are no longer being bankrolled. So a company used solely for investments, has one of (If not the single biggest) its biggest assets, that would show a 50 million (Guesstimate) profit in five years or without any guaranteed chance of success, would need a further 50 million + pumped in, to see any significant change in value. My money is that we will be sold and that we are "For sale" right now. The fun begins when we get to dissect the new owners and understand the terms of the deal, but the Liebherrs have been nothing short of fantastic for this club and I would expect Katrina to protect her fathers legacy, by finding the right buyers. Agree with this. I also wouldn't be surprised if it was all part of Cortese's plans, I've heard he had a stake in the club so would probably make a fair few quid out of the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if it was all part of Cortese's plans, I've heard he had a stake in the club so would probably make a fair few quid out of the sale. Ha. It would be funny if the reason for the Cortese falling out was that he wanted to sell up and cash in whilst KL want to carry on running the club long term. There would be a few red faces on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Ha. It would be funny if the reason for the Cortese falling out was that he wanted to sell up and cash in whilst KL want to carry on running the club long term. There would be a few red faces on this board. Why don't you just pop the family a quick email and find out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Why don't you just pop the family a quick email and find out? Dear Kat Us on the mong boards, want to know what are you gonna do with our sorry your club lots of love Mong board member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Ha. It would be funny if the reason for the Cortese falling out was that he wanted to sell up and cash in whilst KL want to carry on running the club long term. There would be a few red faces on this board. :lol: There certainly would Whilst some sort of equity stake wouldn't be past the realms of possibility, I would be surprised as the club announced a reduction in share capital around six months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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