shurlock Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Ahh i get it so the BBC plucked figures out of the sky did they. "up to" or "an estimated" 200,000 people is still a hell of a lot of people celebrating something no one cares about isn't it pal. "muted celebrations" Keep 'em coming. :lol::lol::lol: Are you illiterate as well as gullible? I said muted compared to 76. Keep up pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 ....or orcs Every away game looks like too if you subscribe to the skate school of creative accounting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 The whole city would turn out for the parade if we won the Cup. That goes without saying. And we would ask why haven't so many of the City been down to SMS this season. The skates would say "you only had 150,000 on the Common" etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Every away game looks like too if you subscribe to the skate school of creative accounting. Except it was BBC figures, but dont let that get in the way of your arguement that is about as convicing as Amanda Knoxs defence lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Are you illiterate as well as gullible? I said muted compared to 76. Keep up pal. Oh im keeping up, i'm definitely keeping up pal, it you that seems to be struggling and insulting people. So the BBC "estimate" or "up to" 200,000 that came out for Pompey in their muted celebrations would dwarf the amount that would come out for us would it? Are you suggesting Pompey have more passionate fans than us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Except it was BBC figures, but dont let that get in the way of your arguement that is about as convicing as Amanda Knoxs defence lawyer. ....mmmmm....Amanda Knox...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Still don't get the obsession with resting players. Several of our squad should be more than used to playing 3 times in a week. Plus given the current state of our squad, there's not much of an opportunity to make too many changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 I'm saying it would be more muted this time around. Am sure plenty would have a mad few days but would it bring nonfootball or even fairweather fans out and truly cut across the whole city like it did in 76? That I doubt. That's complete nonsense, there would be more people out than in 76, purely because there are more people in the City than there was then. How many on Southsea common were actually die hard pompey fans? Most would be casuals, neutrals or day trippers just enjoying watching the parade - something like that in a provincial town is a once in a life-time thing, and it's free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Stop bickering and enjoy the moment when it happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 I think finishing 7 - 10th in the league in only your second season back in the Premiership is a good achievement and represents steady progress to build on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 What street is the bus on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 (edited) What street is the bus on? Shirley Road...just up from Foyes Corner. Edited 10 February, 2014 by lifeintheslowlane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 I think finishing 7 - 10th in the league in only your second season back in the Premiership is a good achievement and represents steady progress to build on. hopefully we will, but we are not one of the big boys. so keeping our best players will always be tough. When you get a decent batch together all at the same time, play well, you have to take advantage of that are try and win that trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Thread shows up much is wrong with football and fans these days. So many seem to prefer cheques to trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Any reason why we can't try and win the cup AND do well in the league? Winning mentality and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 I would love to get above Man U this season, shame we didn't get the extra 2 points at the weekend they would have been within sniffing distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Any reason why we can't try and win the cup AND do well in the league? Winning mentality and all that... too many games and too few players. We saw that on Saturday, some of our lads look knackered and we've nothing else in the kitbag. If we want to have a good chance next Saturday we'll have to risk a sub standard side on Tuesday. We have what 14 fit senior pros (over 21s) and 3 kids who play most games, that just isn't enough to expect to win most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 (edited) Thread shows up much is wrong with football and fans these days. So many seem to prefer cheques to trophies. I still think it's a minority. And if we progress past Sunderland then the excitement will build. I'd bloody love to see us win the FA Cup. Very jealous of my dad's stories from that summer. Edited 10 February, 2014 by Golden Balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Absolutely. I might be stupid, probably, and missing something, but it seems all the excuses about too many games and resting players have come along with increased fitness and better coaching techniques. OK the game is faster, but I don't buy it. I think there's just a lot of excuses being made. Especially if a team isn't in the CL. Championship teams have to crawl though 46 games plus playoffs, or in L1 the JPT too and other cup ties, and those players aren't as fit. I'd hope players still want to play every single game, but that would probably be naive too. Very narrow minded way to look at it. Fitter players doesn't mean they're always 100%. Thing is that at such a high level, a loss of 5% fitness is huge. Back in the 80s etc they'd play more games but they would often be playing at 80% or less....against players who are in the same position. At this level in today's game, every percentage is massive. So resting is required to get the maximum from players who are also playing against players who are at their maximum. Therefore you either need a big squad or prioritise certain games, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 We should be pleased with a top 10 finish but ultimately we have secured that now and should do everything in our power to win the FA cup. Who the f*ck will remember who came 10th in 5 years time? An FA Cup, however meaningless to some will stay with us for ever. Stick out our best 11 and smash Sunderland off the park. Roll on the quarter final draw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Thread shows up much is wrong with football and fans these days. So many seem to prefer cheques to trophies. We have a genuine opportunity to get to Wembley. Anyone who thinks finishing a place higher is more important is an utter f**ktard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Except it was BBC figures, but dont let that get in the way of your arguement that is about as convicing as Amanda Knoxs defence lawyer. I like the idea that Strawlock thinks that someone somewhere has the absolute factual headcount of people at street celebrations/free civic events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Thread shows up much is wrong with football and fans these days. So many seem to prefer cheques to trophies. Who does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 I like the idea that Strawlock thinks that someone somewhere has the absolute factual headcount of people at street celebrations/free civic events. Cuts both ways, doesn't it pal. Could equally be wide of the mark.... Come back to me when you've got your head around the difference between gross and net spend. Obviously numbers aren't a forte of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 It is. But I think a lot of people, and partly me are worried the progress could halt in the summer so are keen/desperate to see a cup win to cap off a great few years. We have a chance but obviously it's a pretty slim one. I'm not looking beyond the prospect of a wembley semi final. Even that is a couple of difficult wins away. Yeah. This could very well be the high point we look back to in ten years time. It would be amazing to get a trophy before we are weakened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Pointless argument isnt it? Whether or not the FA Cup means as much as it used to is a red herring. More people will celebrate an FA Cup win and remember it longer than climbing an extra place - and the money generated form an FA Cup win would be far more anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Cuts both ways, doesn't it pal. Could equally be wide of the mark.... Come back to me when you've got your head around the difference between gross and net spend. Obviously numbers aren't a forte of yours. "could" = you dont know. So rather than take the BBC figures as a guide to Portmouths "muted celebrations" we'll rely on the musing of someone on a mongboard who claims to play the post not the poster. :lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie66 Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Anyone know how many we have sold for this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 It's simple. Put the best side possible out versus Hull. Then put the best team possible out versus Sunderland and the same the following week versus WHU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 It's simple. Put the best side possible out versus Hull. Then put the best team possible out versus Sunderland and the same the following week versus WHU. It's not that simple. More likely for a key player or two to get injured or even suspended. Not to mention we want the team to be as fresh as possible for Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 I'd happily make changes tomorrow so we are stronger Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 Win on Saturday and we really can start dreaming. I find it goes up a gear a the quarter final and anything can happen from there on in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 It's simple. Put the best side possible out versus Hull. Then put the best team possible out versus Sunderland and the same the following week versus WHU. 100% this. Let's just keep going. Now if it was Hull Tuesday night semi final or final on Saturday... I would take a different view, but we are a long way off yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 February, 2014 Share Posted 10 February, 2014 It's not that simple. More likely for a key player or two to get injured or even suspended. Not to mention we want the team to be as fresh as possible for Saturday. The best team possible does exactly that. Injuries etc can't be controlled, ie Lovren and substitute Ramirez in the same minute at Sunderland. The best team from those available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Posted on the Hull thread, but here's my take on league vs cup: http://www.shoot.co.uk/saints-must-prioritise-fa-cup/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Posted on the Hull thread, but here's my take on league vs cup: http://www.shoot.co.uk/saints-must-prioritise-fa-cup/ Heartily agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 The best team possible does exactly that. Injuries etc can't be controlled, ie Lovren and substitute Ramirez in the same minute at Sunderland. The best team from those available. They wouldn't have got injured if they hadn't played (dropped salad cream bottles on feet excepted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Heartily agree Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Posted on the Hull thread, but here's my take on league vs cup: http://www.shoot.co.uk/saints-must-prioritise-fa-cup/ Really good blog, agree with everything you say in that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Heartily agree ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Posted on the Hull thread, but here's my take on league vs cup: http://www.shoot.co.uk/saints-must-prioritise-fa-cup/ But its not that simple is it? Rest players doesn't mean we win the cup?! I bet there isn't a single poster that would choose a 7th place finish but losing saturday over an fa cup win. A team performing needs a balance of resting players when needed, giving the best team game time together and keeping squad players involved. Playing reserves today wouldn't necessarily improve our cup chances. Guess team selection shows MP agrees. Progression in league means progression as a club and improves chances for future cup - that is not the same as throwing cup for one more league place! Although cup isn't the same since it dropped its a knockout I would love to go to another cup final, and my kids first. Do think its very sad when fans show lack of pleasure and passion for an impressive league campaign if it doesn't involve a cup, promotion or successful relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 resting players is way over rated. when we never rested players in year 1 of league 1. it NEVER had any effect on the chances of promotion...apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 But its not that simple is it? Rest players doesn't mean we win the cup?! I bet there isn't a single poster that would choose a 7th place finish but losing saturday over an fa cup win. A team performing needs a balance of resting players when needed, giving the best team game time together and keeping squad players involved. I don't disagree with what you're saying, though I would suggest that if we were to 'progress as a club' (or go the other way for that matter) we would have other priorities. My point being that this is that rarest of seasons when the FA Cup is virtually the only achievable thing we have to aim for. Really good blog, agree with everything you say in that! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Right, let the serious business begin. I just hole Lambert and co aren't too knackered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Right, let the serious business begin. I just hole Lambert and co aren't too knackered Don't we need another point for safety first though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 11 February, 2014 Share Posted 11 February, 2014 Right, let the serious business begin. I just hole Lambert and co aren't too knackered Even if they are, no matter. Sunderland have a tough fixture away to City on Wednesday night and therefore less recovery time. It's all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Right, let the serious business begin. I just hole Lambert and co aren't too knackered Would assume 4 or 5 changes with Kelvin and Jos starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Would assume 4 or 5 changes with Kelvin and Jos starting. Not sure why you would need to rest the goalkeeper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Not sure why you would need to rest the goalkeeper? No real need to but think we will. KD is still club captain so think there may be the desire to keep him playing for the duration of the cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 February, 2014 Share Posted 12 February, 2014 Not sure why you would need to rest the goalkeeper? It's more a mental/concentration thing than fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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