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I was disappointed at Crouch - he now has the mobility of a telegraph pole and makes Rickie look as quick as Theo Walcott.

Apart from leading with his elbows at every opportunity, kicking out when frustrated, and shouting at the ref after committing an obvious foul, he was unlucky to get booked.

 

But Stoke are so much fun to watch it didn't detract from the spectacle. :scared:

 

Coming soon - Hammer Films present West Ham v Stoke - good luck to Sky selling that one as a Super Sunday etc!

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Or luuk de Jong, zaha, ince, boriello, Shane long, mitroglou, holtby

 

Long cost over £7m and had scored 3 goals for West Brom this season

Zaha has done absolutely f**k all since joining Utd and has looked sh*te every time I've seen him recently.

Boriello has played 4 games for Milan this season.

Ince has only ever done it in the Championship and apparently cost over £1m for a 4 month loan

 

However you have apparently watched a large number of Borussia Monchengladbach and Olympiakos games this season so I will bow to your superior knowledge on De Jong and Mitroglou.

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Or luuk de Jong, zaha, ince, boriello, Shane long, mitroglou, holtby

 

Or seeing as we pretty much have nothing to play for in the league we can just give our own academy players games rather than blocking their progress like most other teams!?

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Poor crowd today I see.

 

Was only just worth staying up for!

Just under 28K for a game against Stoke, who would never attract the floating supporter doesn't seem that bad, factor in the recent weather as well.

But as for only just worth staying up for, I would say not :)

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One of those games when the result leaves you with a feeling of general dissatisfaction although to be honest about it I can't see the two dropped points mattering very much in the grand scheme of things, indeed when it comes to the desirability of a Europa League place I'm as skeptical as MP clearly is re that matter.

 

It's not that often we see our midfield bossed at St Marys but let's face it Charlie Adam and his mates came pretty damn close to doing that yesterday. Perhaps it showed that they needed the points far more than we did. Nevertheless we were (just about) the better team on the day I thought, but time and time again we tried to pick our way through the center of their defence only to find ourselves washing up against a rock known as Shawcross. I draw two conclusions from that:

 

1 - What a formidable combination Shawcross and Lovren would make.

2 - Sans Puncheon we really need to find some genuine width from somewhere.

 

As for the principle talking points, at the time I put their second goal down to a superbly taken corner rather than a error from Artur Boruc - I'll watch again it on TV later. It seems to me our corners are too often 'lofted' into the box while there's were 'fired' in at pace, a lesson learnt I hope. On a happier note if Rickie's opener was a painting ... well they'd hang it in the National Gallery.

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One of those games when the result leaves you with a feeling of general dissatisfaction although to be honest about it I can't see the two dropped points mattering very much in the grand scheme of things, indeed when it comes to the desirability of a Europa League place I'm as skeptical as MP clearly is re that matter.

 

It's not that often we see our midfield bossed at St Marys but let's face it Charlie Adam and his mates came pretty damn close to doing that yesterday. Perhaps it showed that they needed the points far more than we did. Nevertheless we were (just about) the better team on the day I thought, but time and time again we tried to pick our way through the center of their defence only to find ourselves washing up against a rock known as Shawcross. I draw two conclusions from that:

 

1 - What a formidable combination Shawcross and Lovren would make.

2 - Sans Puncheon we really need to find some genuine width from somewhere.

 

As for the principle talking points, at the time I put their second goal down to a superbly taken corner rather than a error from Artur Boruc - I'll watch again it on TV later. It seems to me our corners are too often 'lofted' into the box while there's were 'fired' in at pace, a lesson learnt I hope. On a happier note if Rickie's opener was a painting ... well they'd hang it in the National Gallery.

 

Absolutely agree with the shawcross comments. the guy is top draw, decent on the ground and wins everything in the air. i would make him our number one target this summer.

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One of the most disgusting, cynical fouls I've ever seen on Shaw near the end that for me should have been a red card. He literally just kicked him as Luke ran beyond him with the ball.

 

Yet another team who have learnt from their manager's playing style then......atho they have had ahead start over the years playing like that I suppose !

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Sorry to say , we the fans are partly to blame for the poor home form, the place is like a morgue especially thr chapel end. When the team need a lift the fan

are simply don't help, the championship and League 1 was far better for atmosphere !

 

I used Corky Morris's season tickets yesterday and sat in the Itchen, towards the Chapel. Great seats but the most depressing place in any football ground in the world. Makes the Chapel look like a seething mass of fanatical ultras.

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I said at the end of last season that he'd make an excellent signing only for the mongboard hordes to declare him crap because he plays for Stoke.

 

Shawcross would be an excellent signing for us I think, but I doubt he'd leave them to go anywhere but a Top 6 team. Worth a punt though, for the right price.

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Apart from the 2 goals for each team and a good strike in the first half, I don't remember many clear chances, one thing that did frustrate me was the amount of un needed passes, Clyne had an excellent opportunity second half to score but bottled it.

 

Anyone got the goals on video? Or explain to me the Davis goal..

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Sorry to say , we the fans are partly to blame for the poor home form, the place is like a morgue especially thr chapel end. When the team need a lift the fan

are simply don't help, the championship and League 1 was far better for atmosphere !

 

There was some good banter between Itchen North and the away end: "you're so northern, you're havin a wash" as it started bucketing down even drew some applause from their lot.

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There was some good banter between Itchen North and the away end: "you're so northern, you're havin a wash" as it started bucketing down even drew some applause from their lot.

 

Itchen Block 3... Always bought my season ticket here lool... By far the most entertaining and banterous place lool... That chant yesterday was really funny loool

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Sorry to say , we the fans are partly to blame for the poor home form, the place is like a morgue especially thr chapel end. When the team need a lift the fan

are simply don't help, the championship and League 1 was far better for atmosphere !

 

The problem with the Chapel is that as it's the family stand it's obviously full of kids and old people. (I include myself in that category.) Not exactly condusive for noisy support unfortunately. Drives me nuts.

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Once again this game showed that we can usually keep the majority of possession but the there is problem in the back four when Lovren is out and possession doesn't turn into enough goals. If we don't add to the CB stock in the summer the back four problem will continue. Up front IMKO we need a winger who can change a game. Tom Ince going on loan from Blackpool to CP may turn out to be a missed opportunity.

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Sit in the Kingsland corner with family...block 37...:)

 

Some of family in Northam....next/near to us..

 

Some in Itchen..

 

Tried many parts of the ground over the years..

 

My current season tickets/seats are the best in my opinion.

 

I am able to coach/advise the players:rolleyes:/refs:(

 

I have doubts that the players listen most of the time:mcinnes:

 

The refs never take my advice...:p

 

To be honest...I just love being there to cheer on the mighty Saints:D

 

I have to accept that some of my fellow posters......have never been to St Marys or even see Saints play:? OBVIOUS by some of the tripe posted..:scared:

 

Not being rude to any non Saints posters....JUST an observation regarding some of the absolute drivel we get from some on here

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The stats might have shown that we were superior, but Stoke wanted the ball more than we did, and were successfully intercepting indecision on our part. sgnificantly in the centre of the pitch. We were quite sloppy at the start and particularly after both our goals. The conditions made it difficult for both teams but Stoke were more ruthless.

 

By the end I was relieved to get the point because both teams were understandably tiring and I could see us making mistakes and conceding again. We need Lovren back asap, and BigVic to start against Hull and especially physical teams like Sunderland and Sham.

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Just under 28K for a game against Stoke, who would never attract the floating supporter doesn't seem that bad, factor in the recent weather as well.

But as for only just worth staying up for, I would say not :)

 

Stoke only came with little over one thousand fans. Another 1k aways and it would have looked a decent attendance.

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What sub do you think he should´ve made?

Not much from the bench today that would have improved the team...

 

I would have brought Ward-Prowse on to replace Davis probably - his free-kicks and corners are so predictably the same -and I would have replaced JRod with someone - probably Guly - I thought JRod had a dreadful game.

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I would have brought Ward-Prowse on to replace Davis probably - his free-kicks and corners are so predictably the same -and I would have replaced JRod with someone - probably Guly - I thought JRod had a dreadful game.

 

Why take off our best player on the day? Would be a bit silly.

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Once again this game showed that we can usually keep the majority of possession but the there is problem in the back four when Lovren is out and possession doesn't turn into enough goals. If we don't add to the CB stock in the summer the back four problem will continue. Up front IMKO we need a winger who can change a game. Tom Ince going on loan from Blackpool to CP may turn out to be a missed opportunity.

Really don't understand the people who still think we need a winger. We don't play wingers any more, our full backs provide the width and act as wingers. The problem yesterday was that the FBs didn't do enough of that for some reason, and when they did they did what all wingers would do and lob hopeful crosses into the box for Shawcross to deal with eyes closed. It was pathetic, apart from the few minutes when the rain/hail lashed down, why ow why did we decide yesterday of all days to play hoofball instead of our normal game, keeping it on the deck. If it was a deliberate tactic then it was scandalous. Our central midfield were poor, I cannot remember Schneiderlin and Cork having such in ineffective game (and I am a huge fan of both), Shaw did not try to beat his man tall in the second half until about 80 minutes in. Not convinced Lallana was on the pitch, following several immense performances from him he was completely snuffed out, JRod was hopeless, completely bereft of ideas, and Lambert scored a stunning free kick and did very little else, I feel he is still carrying a slight injury. Steve Davis was MOTM by a mile (and yet the moron behind me was calling for him to be taken off because we needed pace, you really coudn't make it up). Jose Fonte had his worst game for a while, several really poor decisions and bad passes. Yoshi was very good, his reading of the game is top class, makes up for his lack of stature sometimes, although I will still be glad to get Lovren back. Hopeless, hopeless performance, but credit to Stoke who were well organised, defended well, stopped us playing with their niggly tactics and generally were hardly ever troubled. One of the most disappointing games for a long long time.

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Sit in the Kingsland corner with family...block 37...:)

 

Some of family in Northam....next/near to us..

 

Some in Itchen..

 

Tried many parts of the ground over the years..

 

My current season tickets/seats are the best in my opinion.

 

I am able to coach/advise the players:rolleyes:/refs:(

 

I have doubts that the players listen most of the time:mcinnes:

 

The refs never take my advice...:p

 

To be honest...I just love being there to cheer on the mighty Saints:D

 

I have to accept that some of my fellow posters......have never been to St Marys or even see Saints play:? OBVIOUS by some of the tripe posted..:scared:

 

Not being rude to any non Saints posters....JUST an observation regarding some of the absolute drivel we get from some on here

 

Itchen North was a lot of fun. Some good banter with the Stoke lads. Due to the usual gap between Northam fans and the away lot, think it's the place to be.

 

Sorry for not making our clandestine meeting; went with my bro and time worked against us.

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Itchen North was a lot of fun. Some good banter with the Stoke lads. Due to the usual gap between Northam fans and the away lot, think it's the place to be.

 

Sorry for not making our clandestine meeting; went with my bro and time worked against us.

 

No worries...as long as you had a good day:)

 

We enjoyed our day......Met many sad Pompey supporters at Poundbury/Dorchester Macs on the way home..

 

Good old Exeter snatched an equaliser in last seconds:D

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Why would Stoke want to sell Shawcross?

 

If (for example) we caved in and sold Shaw for £30m.

Stoke would also cave in for £xxm for Shawcross, especially if we're targeting a higher league position next year. Market forces, any player is up for sale, any. Okay Chelsea after this weekend might take £300m for Hazard, but you know what I'm saying.

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Sit in the Kingsland corner with family...block 37...:)

 

Was that you down the front topless, swinging your shirt above your head in the hail storm? :p

 

Was a touch p*seed walking away from the stadium having drawn 2-2 against that side...how the took must the mancs feel today? :lol:

 

They're right about the Chapel tho. Comatosed.

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Was that you down the front topless, swinging your shirt above your head in the hail storm? :p

 

Was a touch p*seed walking away from the stadium having drawn 2-2 against that side...how the took must the mancs feel today? :lol:

 

They're right about the Chapel tho. Comatosed.

 

At my age......I would never take my vest off:)

 

My daughter does not even let me stand up too long let alone run around the terrace...:rolleyes:

 

He was just down 10 rows or so from my point.........I gave him 7 as Len would say for his performance......Arms were not straight at point of twirl:D

 

 

Good lad who had obviously enjoyed the juice.;)

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First time down in Southampton for a match and weekend away for a few years. Was great to be at St Marys again and thought we were going to go on and bull-doze Stoke after the first goal, though before the match, I did predict Crouch scoring against us, just thought it would be a consolation and not an equaliser. A real roller coaster of a 1st half but a disappointing 2nd half and overall result. Stoke did well at the back and deserved the point but we just weren't at the races.

 

Thought most of the team were off the boil, only Davis and Yoshida could take any credit from the match really. Clyne and Shaw, as has been said, kept cutting inside though to be fair to them, usually they had no support with them on the wings so looked very isolated. A number of times people around us in the Kingsland were urging one of our midfielders to follow the pass out to the left or right to offer support, but they always hung back. Very one dimensional and slightly disappointing, but as ever, we had a great time at St Marys and in Southampton over the weekend. Won't be leaving it as long next time, we missed supporting Saints.

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