CWD Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 We really lacked ideas in the second half. How many times did Davis get hold of the ball just inside their half and then have no real options? We were crying out for Ramirez today, just anything to add a bit of flair. Unfortunately the lack of attacking depth in the squad was shown - when you spend 45 minutes constantly attacking a stubborn defence and your only substitution is at RB then you know there's a problem! Still, Stoke defended superbly. Home form is a bit of a worry but we have a good chance of 3 points on Tuesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Oh well, 4 points from safety. We are 2-2 specialists at the moment. 17th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Its a shame Gallagher wasn't available today. We could have done with his movement up front in the second half. Stoke defended very well but we were attacking so slow and centrally that we made it easy for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 fuking man city ruined my accy Loads ruined mine... well the last I looked. Leicester, Reading, Brighton, Man City, Grimsby, Wrexham and Berwick were all failing to be winning in the last 5 minutes.... rubbish day all round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Yes, yes he was. Brilliant tackle 2nd half - as perfectly timed as you will ever see - and free kick was awarded against him The ref got a few wrong, and the lino in the first half seemed generous with offside 'benefit of the doubt' going to Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 I find it best on here. Other people use duplicate accounts to acheive the same effect ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 This game demonstrated to me why corks pass accuracy is so high, he always plays sideways, I can see why some posters mention he slows us down as he receives the ball and pirouettes before passing sideways, even Lovren was taking the **** out of his scoring record !!. To be fair though think morgan was average as well today and as the other poster said, no creativity in the centre and if I can sin for a moment it started reminding me of Barca v Chelsea from a few years back, their front 6 didn't move outside of their half in the 2nd half. Thought Odemwingie was actually very good and crouch won most of the things coming his way. I know style wise they are old school but when your fighting tooth and nail to get out of the zone you only care about results so fairplay to them. Lovren my MOM for his twitter feed, "crouch is so tall OMG", "clyney is like a ferrari" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Serious question - Do you still think we are sleepwalking (or even walking whilst awake) to relegation? Until we get past the 40 point mark or are mathematically safe I would say there is a chance of relegation. A small chance admittedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 You make a fair comment but that but it doesn't represent all the play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 We were poor today, too many players off their game and Stoke are such a difficult team for us to play against and their defence was never going to part like the Red Sea like Fulham's. But they responded brilliantly each time they went behind and attacked us. Was a great corner routine too for second equaliser as first man raced to meet the ball and Rickie left Crouch to try and close him down, but of course the ball ended up with Crouch where it was always going. Three card trick comes to mind, and Adam's ball for Odemthingy was a peach, just like Rickie's last week (Rickie's was better). So we defended poorly at crucial times and couldn't break down a massed defence second half. All in all a frustrating afternoon. Nice to see Kat has paid a visit to the megastore though and got kitted out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 seasons over. not too sure if anyone can have an issue with that yoshida and cork were very good you have to give credit to the opposition (I knowt that is a sin) they played us very well karma came back on begovic Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Rubbish. what is so wrong with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc oli Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 No he didn't, no yellows for Saints today. Free kick given against him though. Free kick was given for original foul on Crouch- they didn't get the advantage after Yoshida's tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Until we get past the 40 point mark or are mathematically safe I would say there is a chance of relegation. A small chance admittedly. Ok thank you for your measured reply. Dr Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Nice to see Kat has paid a visit to the megastore though and got kitted out! She heard the coat unzips from the bottom making it easier to have a slash, that sold it for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Other people use duplicate accounts to acheive the same effect ! That sounds far to complicated and it will take ages to get to those 10,000 posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Indeed too many high balls which they dealt with ease. not easy to keep the ball on the deck in a hailstorm blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Ok thank you for your measured reply. Dr Who? Already replied, we are safe. The only reason I mention the 40 points is becuase I thought we would be safe by the end of February.... still possible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Already replied, not a chance we are safe. The only reason I mention the 40 points is becuase I thought we would be safe by the end of February.... still possible though. In the remaining 13 games, the team currently in 18th ( WBA ) would have to average a point a game more than us. Not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 what is so wrong with that? Nothing. Oddball posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 isgrove or ince/zaha we should have got someone in jan when osvlado left Yeah Isgrove was ****e today, hardly noticed he was on. Shoulda,woulda,coulda. Reality is reality. We don't have Ince or Zaha and and no amount of complaining will conjure up a new signing. MP is stuck with the squad as it is and he also knows that with our league campaign having turned to an event less walk towards mid-table anonymity, playing for the draw is pointless. The manager had a player on the bench who plays a position we were lacking during that second half and instead of taking the chance, he decided to take the safe option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 what is so wrong with that? Season over? We are 9th and still in cup like cork but he doesn't create and nor does Morgan. People moan at gaston but we could have done with him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Already replied, we are safe. The only reason I mention the 40 points is becuase I thought we would be safe by the end of February.... still possible though. Would take 4 points from 2 away games though, but we seem to be picking up better results away at the moment. Hull City - Draw West Ham - Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Already replied, we are safe. The only reason I mention the 40 points is becuase I thought we would be safe by the end of February.... still possible though. Doc, you gotta clarify this for me - are you Dalek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Already replied, we are safe. The only reason I mention the 40 points is becuase I thought we would be safe by the end of February.... still possible though. Would take 4 points from 2 away games though, but we seem to be picking up better results away at the moment. Hull City - Draw West Ham - Win You two should get a room Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 In the remaining 13 games, the team currently in 18th ( WBA ) would have to average a point a game more than us. Not going to happen. Already replied, we are safe. The only reason I mention the 40 points is becuase I thought we would be safe by the end of February.... still possible though. That reads complely wrong. Not a chance we will go down. I was hoping we would have the magic 40 points before the end of February, but I am not concerned about relegation at all. We will finish in the top half probably 9th or 8th. I am still looking at that european slot, but we will need to get our home form back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 You two should get a room I have but, unfortunatly I am currently sharing it with a 2 year old tantrum boy, a 5 year old tired girl and a moody 12 year old...oh and my wife. They are all, apart from the wife doing my head in!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Doc, you gotta clarify this for me - are you Dalek? No I am not. I am normally very positive as the Dalek is as negative as can be. I feel very offended now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 I have but, unfortunatly I am currently sharing it with a 2 year old tantrum boy, a 5 year old tired girl and a moody 12 year old...oh and my wife. They are all, apart from the wife doing my head in!! You 5 should get a room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Steve Davis man of the match with another good performance from Cork and other stand out contributions from Shaw, Schneiderlin, Yoshida and Fonte. Lallana, Rodriguez, and Clyne below par today, as was Lambert after his goal. Our midfield won a majority of the duels and supplied the balls into the last third, but we lacked the killer touches today to turn that advantage in our favour. Credit must be given to Stoke's defence however. We needed to shake things up to gain the three points towards the end of the match and didn't really have the players to do something different. With Ramirez out and Osvaldo gone, there was just Guly, but he might have made a difference with fresh legs and him being tricky in the box might have produced something. Substituting Clyne for Chambers was like for like, although for me, Clyne was frustrating today. He never once took the ball to the line, instead always cutting inside and running into traffic. Shaw on the other hand was adept at going for the line and put in a succession of good balls into the box Lambert's free kick goal was sublime and unstoppable by any keeper. Other than that, we had a flukey goal and so did they. But our defence was left standing by their through ball from Adam to Odemwingie, who has a habit of scoring against us. I should have put money on it. Stoke are a niggly physical team and generally we handled them well, as did the referee.They tried to con him several times with dives, but he saw through them. Crouch was guilty of it more than once. Stoke's game plan neutralised our preferred style of play and once they were on level terms each time, they stifled us and went for the draw. Summed up by Pochettino and then by Merrington who I heard summarising on the radio back in the car as being a frustrating game. That's exactly what it was. We didn't play badly generally, but neither did we do enough to deserve the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 You 5 should get a room. My own room is the loo or my car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Its a shame Gallagher wasn't available today. We could have done with his movement up front in the second half. Stoke defended very well but we were attacking so slow and centrally that we made it easy for them. This. I know he's "only 18" but he could easily have had an impact off the bench today. Obviously wasn't possible and our thoughts are with him and his family - that's far more important than the result of a football game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 My own room is the loo or my car! Dalek is in the bog muttering nonsensically about walking unto relegation with his eyes closed so your best option is the car mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 MP couldnt have done much more. Nobody on the bench is good enough to come on and change the game, we have a small squad. Isgrove won't make it and was effectively making up the numbers and JWP wouldnt have made an impact - we had enough tidy passers on and any crosses were dealy with well by Shawcross. We werent at it today and Stoke defended very well. Move onto the away games where there is more space for our attackers to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Stop with the negative waves Moriarty. Donald Sutherland playing Oddball in "Kellys Heros" by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Not enough to change it, Jay, Adam had utter stinkers. We cannot afford for them to have stinkers as we have no other option. Pretty trash 2nd half really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 we definitely DIDNT need anyone in jan. No way. Saintsweb had spoken!!!!! all seriousness. seeing a player like tom ince go to palace on loan is annoying. we need to add variety at times to our play and he is an attacking wide player who could have done well here even zaha too Where are the wingers in our formation? Please show them to me... and if we wanted them we would use Rowe or Sinclair rather than spunk on ince.... We have minimum 9th in the bag bar a bad injury crisis. Go for cup and be happy with that. Although, after MoPo's comments it seems he may throw the cup away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Where are the wingers in our formation? Please show them to me... and if we wanted them we would use Rowe or Sinclair rather than spunk on ince.... We have minimum 9th in the bag bar a bad injury crisis. Go for cup and be happy with that. Although, after MoPo's comments it seems he may throw the cup away who said we should play wingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 We really could do with a winger to come on and give us a different dimension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Not the best of games, Stoke defended well throughout the whole team to quash our attacks and we couldn't work out how to pass it through them. Neither team seemed particularly bothered about winning it in the second half. Made me laugh that despite it completely leathering it down with over 5 minutes to go people were walking out in their droves. Leave early and get soaked or stay in the ground for a few more minutes, watch the end of a game you've paid to see and wait for the rain to stop. Tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 (edited) Where are the wingers in our formation? Please show them to me... and if we wanted them we would use Rowe or Sinclair rather than spunk on ince.... We have minimum 9th in the bag bar a bad injury crisis. Go for cup and be happy with that. Although, after MoPo's comments it seems he may throw the cup away What did Pochettino say regarding the cup? Edited 8 February, 2014 by DarrenLeTiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Donald Sutherland playing Oddball in "Kellys Heros" by any chance? "You should hear my other dog impression..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Not a great 2nd half and our good start just fizzled out too soon. If anyone is wondering why Schneiderlin isn't making the French team yet, the answer is those who start these days can shoot, he can't! Same goes for Cork. Even then, Jack is clearly our most in form player, although I do agree that today Steven Davis was our MOM. He has the energy, is as neat as you can find in the PL and on a chart his performance line could be drawn with a ruler comfortably above the middle point across the whole season, but our front players apart from him left the pitch on 25 minutes. Stoke are still a terrible team. I see no difference between last season and now in terms of the well-known direct long pass, boring game of theirs, apart from having a worse manager. They and WBA are still my two favorites for relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Anybody who watched the match surely must pick Steve Davis as MOM! Everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/02/08/video-southampton-2-2-stoke-city-premier-league-highlights/ Match highlights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 "You should hear my other dog impression..." LOL, you must love that movie as much as I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 We were bullied today, AB at fault for their second goal(see my comment on Boruc thread) what is becoming frustrating is that we don't seem to have another way of playing and if we can't our pressing game going we come unstuck as we did today. Fair play to Stoke they came with a game plan and it worked, another thing that I found frustrating is that Clyne did not take his man on and try and get a cross in from the dead ball line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Yes, yes he was. Brilliant tackle 2nd half - as perfectly timed as you will ever see - and free kick was awarded against him Wrong! If you watch the referee brought back play for the foul made before the Yoshida tackle. Watch again if you can and you will clearly see the ref informing the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Predictable. We had plenty of bodies in the middle of the field so as Adam was their only creator he should have been constantly pressured instead of having all the time in the world to pick out Odemwingie. Loads of meaningless low tempo square and back passes, ridiculous across the back square passes under pressure very nearly getting us into trouble. The balls we put into the forwards lacked pace so played into Stoke's hands. We were never going to be able to get Stoke to allow us to play our game as they just allowed us to play sideways and backwards in front of them then hit the front first time when they won the ball. It was crying out for Shaw and Clyne to get to the byeline not come inside. We had to knock any crosses in with pace. The midfielders in games like this need to run at the defenders and the forwards make runs, today there was a lack of movement up front. The tempo was far too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Goals flattered the game to be honest.......we had zilch on the bench to change the game and stoke are a very hard side to break down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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