Saint Charlie Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 From the sounds of what Poch said today he hasn't spoken a lot about the future of the club, or his future with the hierarchy. Is this not a little worrying, amidst talk of interest in him from other teams? I know he said he was relaxed about it, which understandable considering his position. Saints however, should not be relaxed. They should be trying all they can to tie him down longer term. In football you can quickly gain and quickly lose momentum, and whilst things on the pitch are good, drifting off it will quickly catch up with you. "Its a period of reorganisation", he said. Lets hope its a quick one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Is this not a little worrying?... Saints however, should not be relaxed. Gather round for another bedwetters' hoedown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Getting Mauricio Pochettino to sign a new contract should be a top priority and would send a message as to the intentions of this new regime. My big fear is there are not enough "football" people at the club at present who can see the sense in taking such a step. It would be nice to think talks had at least started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 6 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 6 February, 2014 (edited) Getting Mauricio Pochettino to sign a new contract should be a top priority and would send a message as to the intentions of this new regime. My big fear is there are not enough "football" people at the club at present who can see the sense in taking such a step. It would be nice to think talks had at least started. Exactly. Hardly "betwetting". Just plain sensible. You would think they at least privately know whether he intends to stay beyond the summer. Has a massive impact on planning for next season, player recruitment and retention. Edited 6 February, 2014 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 I think they've probably got rid of Cortese, and said, give us til the end of the season, we'll all sit down at the end of the season and discuss contracts/transfers etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 i reckon they're selling up + don't give a fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 None of this will be resolved until the new CEO comes in - the club won't offer without the new CEO's blessing and MP wouldn't tie himself in without knowing the level of future commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 None of this will be resolved until the new CEO comes in - the club won't offer without the new CEO's blessing and MP wouldn't tie himself in without knowing the level of future commitment. Makes appointing a CEO rather urgent if this scenario is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Yes we need to tie him down to contract because everyone knows contracts in football are watertight...... Look if Poch gets a better (in his eyes) offer he will be off contract on no contract just like players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Hardly the end of the world, whilst I like him any half decent manager could finish 9th with our squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 i reckon they're selling up + don't give a fuck agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Yes we need to tie him down to contract because everyone knows contracts in football are watertight...... Look if Poch gets a better (in his eyes) offer he will be off contract on no contract just like players. And for the time being he's still nearer the start of his contract than the end. Football Managers' contracts are hardly worth the paper on which they're printed. Bad results...manager gets sacked contract or no contract, good results and a "bigger" club comes calling..manager fecks off.. Contracts only determine the compensation either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Hardly the end of the world, whilst I like him any half decent manager could finish 9th with our squad probably not, to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 And for the time being he's still nearer the start of his contract than the end. Football Managers' contracts are hardly worth the paper on which they're printed. Bad results...manager gets sacked contract or no contract, good results and a "bigger" club comes calling..manager fecks off.. Contracts only determine the compensation either way. But in these circumstances it would demonstrate some commitment from the owners, and confidence in the club's future from the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 It still wouldn't surprise me to see a Cortese led investor take over the club in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 But in these circumstances it would demonstrate some commitment from the owners, and confidence in the club's future from the manager. It would but as Mauricio says we're in a phase of reorganisation and it needs time. We shall see what happens, personally I'd still not be surprised by anything that happens at SFC from here to August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Hasn't spoken a lot - sounds as if they have spoken tho. I'll go with St Garrett's observation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 The mongboard great and good safely assure us that MP is no better than NA -and is flattered by having better players at his disposal. So either way no great drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 he is one year into a 24 month contract. The finish of the season will determine just how much bargaining power he has with Katherina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 he is one year into a 24 month contract. The finish of the season will determine just how much bargaining power he has with Katherina. 30 month contract (well roughly anyway, up until June of next year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 probably not, to be fair Adkins could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 The mongboard great and good safely assure us that MP is no better than NA -and is flattered by having better players at his disposal. So either way no great drama. And yet the fact that Adkins had some of those players at his disposal in something little better than Sunday league football (on occasions) made him a great manager. When you have a side with at least 5 players who can command starters places in the PL getting out of League 1 is no achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 i reckon they're selling up + don't give a fuck Are you itk, bear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Getting Mauricio Pochettino to sign a new contract should be a top priority and would send a message as to the intentions of this new regime. My big fear is there are not enough "football" people at the club at present who can see the sense in taking such a step. It would be nice to think talks had at least started. The most important thing is clearly ensuring the car park is free, benali can make transfer decisions and the return of the red n white kit, everything else is redundant IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Adkins could. Yup, with Rhodes up top... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Hardly the end of the world, whilst I like him any half decent manager could finish 9th with our squad My goodness??? You threw it out like bait and I bit, apologies in advance to the objective posters out there for my doing so. MoPo is a really innovative manager in the EPL and taking us to 9th so far (but more important is our commitment to the style and momentum of beautiful attacking football) is a great achievement to date. Our upwards trajectory is very exciting as is our style of play. No, NOT any Half decent manager could have done that with this squad. Look at all the managers in the EPL who could have delivered this but more importantly done it by integrating so many young players and it's a very short list...He is good, period, so take that and stick it up your negative glass half empty arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 The mongboard great and good safely assure us that MP is no better than NA -and is flattered by having better players at his disposal. So either way no great drama. Let's face it the mongboarders who actually believe that NA could have done the same job as MP are utter tools who no doubt scream at Guly and long for the days when we just hoofed it forward as they think that it's real attacking football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Let's face it the mongboarders who actually believe that NA could have done the same job as MP are utter tools who no doubt scream at Guly and long for the days when we just hoofed it forward as they think that it's real attacking football. I wonder if those that spout this crap are trolls or just very thick Or both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Let's face it the mongboarders who actually believe that NA could have done the same job as MP are utter tools who no doubt scream at Guly and long for the days when we just hoofed it forward as they think that it's real attacking football. Adkins would have done it with Danny Ings, Steve Guppy, Lukas Jutkiewicz, Sam Vokes, Wade Elliot, Andrew Surman, Wayne Bridge, Sam Sodje and Craig Mackail-Smith. In fact, we'd be in Europe with that lot, playing 4-4-2 with wingers, if this forum were to be believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Adkins would have done it with Danny Ings, Steve Guppy, Lukas Jutkiewicz, Sam Vokes, Wade Elliot, Andrew Surman, Wayne Bridge, Sam Sodje and Craig Mackail-Smith. In fact, we'd be in Europe with that lot, playing 4-4-2 with wingers, if this forum were to be believed. And yet he chucked one of his favourite players in the trash can without giving him a chance in the PL. Brought Sharp here on the basis that it was 'his best chance of PL football" and then binned him after 4 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 agree it's no good Bearsy. Like Americans they just dont do irony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Don't agree that contracts mean nothing, if he signed an extension now then it would be certain that he would be here next season at least. The players will want and need to know his situation before they evaluate what they are doing. As Charlie said, things can change very quickly in football and it's all about having the right people in place at the right time. The last time we had a very successful premier league manager, we didn't back him or improve the squad and we fell like a lead balloon. If Poch knew he could retain our best players and add to the squad, staying is an excellent prospect and there wouldn't be many better jobs around other than the very elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Yup, with Rhodes up top... Rhodes would've been a better signing then Osvaldo no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Rhodes would've been a better signing then Osvaldo no? who knows?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Laudrop has his contract improved after last season, now look where he is, things change pretty quickly in football, zero to hero to zero in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Laudrop has his contract improved after last season, now look where he is, things change pretty quickly in football, zero to hero to zero in no time. That's because he was a lazy **** by the sounds of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Adkins isn't as good a manager as MP,.but he's not some sort of 4-4-2 Fat Sam clone. We played some decent stuff under him and would have continued to do so. If we need to cut our cloth accordingly, I'd rather have him back than Pardew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 In football you can quickly gain and quickly lose momentum, and whilst things on the pitch are good, drifting off it will quickly catch up with you. "Its a period of reorganisation", he said. Lets hope its a quick one. Works both ways..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Rhodes would've been a better signing then Osvaldo no? That still doesnt make him a good signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 That's because he was a lazy **** by the sounds of it. I don't post on the mainly bored as dig dog posts for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 That still doesnt make him a good signing You hilariously stated that Adkins would sign Rhodes, I pointed out this would be an improvement on who pochettino brought in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 Don't cry for me Argentina: Don't leave our club Pochettino, the truth is we're f*cked without youuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 That still doesnt make him a good signing I would welcome Rhodes with open arms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 Getting Mauricio Pochettino to sign a new contract should be a top priority and would send a message as to the intentions of this new regime. My big fear is there are not enough "football" people at the club at present who can see the sense in taking such a step. It would be nice to think talks had at least started. You don't need to be a 'football person' to have common sense... Cortese wasn't a 'football' person. Complete fallacy that this is a prerequisite to run a football club....it's business decisions at the end of the day. Katherine does not take the team for training does she and doesn't decide on whether it's 442 or 4411 but she is obviously a very good business woman so let's leave her to run the club and stop pretending that football people always know best- they don't ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 Di Cannio was a football person, as was Joe ****ing kinnear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Saint Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 We need Poch, his pressing style is the best around. I heard other team saying they will and can do it, Fulham coach before the game. ha. Chelsea game against city, commentators saying how well Chelsea press high up the field ? I have watched other teams try it and not pull it off consistently like we do, it is a fine line to getting this pressing game right. if one player does not pick up the free man or close down the pass then it will fail! You will see Ricky or who ever is forward squeeze the defender with the ball to play it forward, no back pass to keeper, then our midfield will close down the pass or man receiving the ball, any free player close to the ball is then closed down. This is one of the reason we can hang with the big boys, we don't give them time on the ball. NA and Pardew both had a philosophy of keeping the ball down and passing the ball, this started us on the way to playing nice football, confidence on the ball and possession has also been nurtured. BUT Poch has added that intense pressing game that I have never seen in the PL done so well. I would love him to stay, to continue to integrate the youth into the squad, to buy the players he feels can handle this type of high intensity pressing game, then have the composure to retain possession. RL is our weak link in this style, but his intelligence allows him to still be a great player for us (his years as a midfielder is showing with his great vision and passing ability, one of the best passer in the team!looks very comfortable when he drops deeper to quarterback the attack). If we are to buy quality players in the summer, They must have stamina, must, must, must, have STAMINA, and be willing to work hard doing the press as a team!!! Davis is a perfect example, his work rate is phenomenal, he is still running box to box at the end of games. Now Poch is not the second Christ coming, he is still young and still learning, so will make mistakes. But if he does leave (don't see why when he has almost everything he wants, coaching in the best league in the world, talented young group of players that has adapted his pressing style brilliantly, and more youth to come, and an owner that has backed some crucial buys when needed). Only a megga club could turn his head and that might happen, but until then "in POCH do I trust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 One of the reasons that Poch has been able to play his system is the willingness of the players to work as hard as they do. If he went to a top team do you think the superstars he inherits would be so willing - it will be like AVB at Chelsea. Yes we need Poch but I also think he needs us as well. This is his BEST chance (providing the financial backing is there) to see how far his philosophy can go. It is the perfect storm and both parties would be foolish to quell it in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 Don't worry guys. It does not matter what happens with MP. We have been assured by the forum elite/gobshietes/Trolls etc that everything will be so much better now that Benali can once again walk through the SMS corridors, the parking fees have been axed and the 'nasty Italian Dwarf' has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 One of the reasons that Poch has been able to play his system is the willingness of the players to work as hard as they do. If he went to a top team do you think the superstars he inherits would be so willing - it will be like AVB at Chelsea. Yes we need Poch but I also think he needs us as well. This is his BEST chance (providing the financial backing is there) to see how far his philosophy can go. It is the perfect storm and both parties would be foolish to quell it in my opinion. We are a good fit but I don't think that will change his mind if he's asked to go to a bigger club. Especially if the money isn't there in the way it has been the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 7 February, 2014 Share Posted 7 February, 2014 Don't worry guys. It does not matter what happens with MP. We have been assured by the forum elite/gobshietes/Trolls etc that everything will be so much better now that Benali can once again walk through the SMS corridors' date=' the parking fees have been axed and the 'nasty Italian Dwarf' has gone.[/quote'] Oh dear. Fc getting very bitter now nasty nic has had the heave Ho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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