trousers Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Premier League @premierleague The latest Barclays Premier League Fair Play Table is out - @LFC are just ahead of @Arsenal... http://bit.ly/FairPlayLg pic.twitter.com/B4exl7paRX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Shame. Was looking forward to a few Europa qualifiers in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Osvaldo incident at Newcastle alone probably dropped us about 10 places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 That's odd. Hardly, we pick up yellows at a stupid rate and we badger the ref a lot more (never mind Lallana gate), I imagine we've picked up serious points for positive play but I understand why we are where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Yeah, would need the key to the symbols. R/Y I assume is Red/Yellow? Aside the departed Argie fella, we don't have any regular offenders that would cause us to be so low down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Osvaldo incident at Newcastle alone probably dropped us about 10 places. Also, check the "how is it calculated" - there's a section on behaviour of the public (abuse towards referee, opponents, abusive language) but it isn't included on the table. I assume every team scored a 0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 I blame Big Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Seems a bit convoluted: http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play-calculation.html For red/yellow you start at 10 points per game and then lose them. Points are awarded for: Positive Play Respect to Opponents Respect to the Referee Behaviour of Team Officials Behaviour of the Public How West Ham get any points for Positive Play baffles me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Goodie. Shows we're toughening up and getting a bit more savvy when it comes to tactical fouling. Don't hate the player, hate the game. (and incidentally I really am beginning to hate the game when it comes to stuff like timewasting/playacting/diving/shirt-pulling in the area etc.) However! Everyone else is doing it, so you're at a disadvantage if you're naive enough to opt out...bit like Facebook really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Seems a bit convoluted: http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play-calculation.html For red/yellow you start at 10 points per game and then lose them. Points are awarded for: Positive Play Respect to Opponents Respect to the Referee Behaviour of Team Officials Behaviour of the Public How West Ham get any points for Positive Play baffles me. they were amazing against Spurs to be fair but I doubt they racked up 170 points form one game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Hardly, we pick up yellows at a stupid rate and we badger the ref a lot more (never mind Lallana gate), I imagine we've picked up serious points for positive play but I understand why we are where we are. Red/Yellow cards we are 6th, i.e. one of the best teams for disciplinary issues on the field, only Cardiff and Liverpool are significantly better than us. Positive Play - we are also 6th, so our style and our on-field discipline is better than our league position, in other words in these areas we out perform our league. It is the other 3 categories that let us down: Respect to opponents - 19th Respect to referee - 20th Behaviour of officials - 20th. So MP, Jesus and our other opponents are the worst in the League. I find this very hard to believe. Except for the Newcastle incident where our GK coach got involved when else has there been any issues with our officials (I assume this is limited to the management/coaching staff and not that Evil Nic caused us a lot of issues) How are we so bad when it comes to respect for opponents and respect for the referee? OK so LallanaGate may account for one bad score, but seriously what is going on that we as supporters are not seeing that is making us so bad when it comes to respect. Didn't MP say a little while ago that we are too nice? I wonder why the Behaviour of the Supporters figure is not published, I am guessing from what I can see that we must be quite well up in that category to compensate for our bottom of the table socres in 3 other categories. So, with the exception probably of 2 incidents involving Ossie, one with our GK coach and one with Lallana its difficult to see why we are so poor. If you look at the scoring methods, one incident, such as Osvaldo at Newcastle cannot possibly drop us 10 places as someone suggested, this would be part of category 3 (Respect to Opponents, where the max score is 7 and min score 1, so lets assume we got 1 point for that game. How come Newcastle are many points better than us, when they not only had that incident but also the one at West Ham as well? Our high tempo and aggressive style of play is clearly not dropping us down that table at all otherwise we wouldn't be 6th in the first 2 categories. Puzzled... (but a least there is no danger of us qualifying for the Europa League via this mickey mouse route this season) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 MP loses points for continually addressing the media in Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 We lose points for singing "we always get s h i t refs" at nearly every home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 one of the most ridiculously subjective tables around... it shocks me that it's allowed to contribute to european places with the millions of different opinions you could have... i understand the desire to promote fair play, and i agree with it, but surely this should only be done on the basis of actual measurable things, like cards and overall fouls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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