Bananaman Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/5423053/Mauricio-Pochettino-wanted-by-Real-Madrid.html An in depth article to get your brains round...
Saint in Paradise Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 As only Sun subscribers can read this article it is a bit difficult to judge if this is indeed an in depth article. Perhaps someone would like to copy and paste it for the rest of us ???
farawaysaint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 First reported by Sports Direct as I posted yesterday, not the most reliable source. http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league-news/39722-southampton-boss-is-a-real-possibility.php#.UvHSQ_mSyVE Now picked up by the Mirror. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-fc-real-madrid-eyeing-3112726?
petermcpete Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 "The South Coast club play attractive football, and boast a host of home-grown talent, three of who - Adam Lallana, Jay Rodriguez and Paul Lambert, have won England caps." Good to see the Mirror are employing compentent proof readers....
doddisalegend Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I like MP but is his CV really good enough for a club bigger than us? mid table in the PL, no trophies won (that I know of but I'm not totally up on his career before saints) and didn't he have a nightmare with his last Spanish club (under difficult circumstances)? Basically what has he done that would make a big side take a punt on him?
nta786 Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I like MP but is his CV really good enough for a club bigger than us? mid table in the PL, no trophies won (that I know of but I'm not totally up on his career before saints) and didn't he have a nightmare with his last Spanish club (under difficult circumstances)? Basically what has he done that would make a big side take a punt on him? Well Man U took a punt on Davey, and thats backfiring now lol... Moyes won nothing as Evertom manager, just consistently kept them high in the table. In all serious, I hope he doesn't go, an absolutely amazing manager.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 A straight swap for Carlo Ancelotti please Mopo win ratio as manager = 30% Carlo Ancelotti win ratio as manager = 60%
Saint Without a Halo Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 A straight swap for Carlo Ancelotti please Mopo win ratio as manager = 30% Carlo Ancelotti win ratio as manager = 60% These assume both were managing teams with the same level of resources and calibre of player I would argue they were not!
Saint Charlie Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Got to get his contract sorted. Can't let a Manager of this quality leave, especially not whilst we have such a good squad.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Utter rubbish reporting...not one quote...a case of 2+2=5 if ever I saw one. And anyway, why would Mopo swap his Super Saints for Real?
Olallana Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 A straight swap for Carlo Ancelotti please Mopo win ratio as manager = 30% Carlo Ancelotti win ratio as manager = 60% With your kind of logic (well logic might probably be the wrong word here but in lack of another word to explain your way of "thinking") you would prefer Paolo di Canio instead of Pochettino then... http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/paolo-di-canio/aufeinenblick/trainer_7556.html
Stud mark of doom Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 These assume both were managing teams with the same level of resources and calibre of player I would argue they were not! Dell sized mentality :-)
kpturner Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 "The South Coast club play attractive football, and boast a host of home-grown talent, three of who - Adam Lallana, Jay Rodriguez and Paul Lambert, have won England caps." Good to see the Mirror are employing compentent proof readers.... Unlike you
OldNick Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 A straight swap for Carlo Ancelotti please Mopo win ratio as manager = 30% Carlo Ancelotti win ratio as manager = 60% you've got a poor attitude towards MoPo which is your prerogative.Be careful what you wish for,MP is the glue that is holding the team together and making us a force. You are dreaming if you think an Anchelloti etc would ever consider joining us. He is an italian HR and needs high spending to do anything. It will be back to Dowies , Curbishleys etc
austsaint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Got to get his contract sorted. Can't let a Manager of this quality leave, especially not whilst we have such a good squad. Yes, when can/should the Club be offering a new contract to MP? Surely sooner than later.
Chewy Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Perhaps mopo, like us, is waiting to see what kls intentions are before deciding whether to stay. Judging by recent threads most of us think we need to spend @40 million on a keeper, centre back, attacking midfielder and centre forward, plus keep our existing players to make significant progress. If he sees signs of that happening in the summer he will stay, if he doesn't, however, maybe he won't. Either way, he won't be off to Madrid this summer, maybe in the future if he has further success, but his record is not yet at a level where he would be able to take over the biggest club in the world who expect to win both the league and champions league every season. IMHO of course.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 you've got a poor attitude towards MoPo which is your prerogative.Be careful what you wish for,MP is the glue that is holding the team together and making us a force. You are dreaming if you think an Anchelloti etc would ever consider joining us. He is an italian HR and needs high spending to do anything. It will be back to Dowies , Curbishleys etc I thought the glue was Nicola?
trousers Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I thought the glue was Nicola? No, he was the chap who bought the glue (on behalf of Madam Liebherr)
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 The fortress of steel n happiness that instantly turns to a house of cards as soon as the front door is replaced... You guys have been spinning this mass-panic propaganda nonsense since Dave Bassett & Dennis Wise were given the boot not sure whats more funny - your deluded expectations when mopo leaves or his link to Real Madrid
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I thought the glue was Nicola? Your Pedanticism knows no bounds Glasgow.....
richardc Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I do like Mopo and enjoy the style of football that we play - but given the players that we have is our league position that exceptional - I personally think that Adkins or any half reasonable manager would have got us to this position. PS I do want Mopo to stay
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Good to see the Mirror are employing compentent proof readers.... I guess you are competent enough to have wound us up?
bridge too far Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 No, he was the chap who bought the glue (on behalf of Madam Liebherr) Shouldn't that be Frau / Fraulein?
brett24 Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Zidane will be the next Real Madrid manager, not Mo Po maybe in a few years time. Think he will end up at Spurs next unless we get him signed up on a new contract.
View From The Top Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I do like Mopo and enjoy the style of football that we play - but given the players that we have is our league position that exceptional - I personally think that Adkins or any half reasonable manager would have got us to this position. PS I do want Mopo to stay Some of the football that we are playing is the best we've played since the 80s and it's down to the manager. End of.
Scummer Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I'm guessing people know that he was linked to the Real Madrid job before he even came to us? He's very highly regarded in Spain, definitely not the failure that some seem to think. His time at Saints will have only strengthened that reputation. I wouldn't be surprised at all if his next job after us is at one of the big European clubs.
Maggie May Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I have it on good authority he will definitely leave if the club reverts to own branded kits next season.
skintsaint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I have it on good authority he will definitely leave if the club reverts to own branded kits next season. Did you hear that from a Chelsea fan?
trousers Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Shouldn't that be Frau / Fraulein? Fair point m' lady
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Some of the football that we are playing is the best we've played since the 80s and it's down to the manager. End of. We were "Total football" under Adkins and he was also onto bigger and better things (& all players would leave bla bla bla) Remember - "Nigel Adkins......best manager we've had since Ted Bates?" I honestly cannot believe tonights performance. We just keep battling then tearing teams apart. Hope we don't lose him to Man City. I think Adkins will end up being Liverpool manager The football at the moment is just a joy to watch Just hope Liverpool do not come sniffing tipped as future England manager! Off to Manchester Utd in the morning ...... Best manager we've had in my life time With King Kenny getting the boot from Liverpool I'm slightly worried now about the start of the season.
Tom28 Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 We were "Total football" under Adkins and he was also onto bigger and better things (& all players would leave bla bla bla) Remember - "Nigel Adkins......best manager we've had since Ted Bates?" GET.A.LIFE.
austsaint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 We were "Total football" under Adkins and he was also onto bigger and better things (& all players would leave bla bla bla) Remember - "Nigel Adkins......best manager we've had since Ted Bates?" Glasgow, there has to be a category in the DSM1V {Manual of Psychiatric Disorders} to describe you - you may yet get the help you need.
farawaysaint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 We were "Total football" under Adkins and he was also onto bigger and better things (& all players would leave bla bla bla) Remember - "Nigel Adkins......best manager we've had since Ted Bates?" I fail to see your point? Adkins was a fantastic manager, there's not many who can achieve back to back promotions and he's doing well at Reading on top of that. We were playing incredibly exciting football, the players loved him and the media thought we were mad to let him go.
lifeintheslowlane Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Jeez that post by GS is beyond obsessive...frightening.
Saint Charlie Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 The players certianly love playing for him, and he has improved some a hell of a lot i.e Lallana, Jay, Fonte etc Really top Manager. WOuld be gutted if he went and hope that KL et al realise how good he is.
Minty Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 On a wider point, I think if and when MoPo does leave us, it'll be for a Spanish side. He is already well known and respected over there so I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that he could get a big job over there. That said, I do hope he'll stay here and it seems the players certainly want him to stay which helps. Whilst I wouldn't hold much sway in these particular articles, I also wouldn't be so bold as to rule out him leaving completely.
View From The Top Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Adkins good. MP better. A concept the grown ups have grasped.
JoeShmoe Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 The players certianly love playing for him, and he has improved some a hell of a lot i.e Lallana, Jay, Fonte etc Really top Manager. WOuld be gutted if he went and hope that KL et al realise how good he is. He's got that tag as bright young manager, and he'll be away soon. Lets hope we can keep him for one more season
Saint86 Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Jeez that post by GS is beyond obsessive...frightening. What do you want to bet he just made up some quotes? That or he has a dossier on all of the above posters.... call the police!
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Adkins good. MP better. A concept the grown ups have grasped. Lol. And as to offer MP a new contract - I would expect those talks to be under way. Contract talks do not happen at SFC in full public glare.
cambsaint Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 If its true and MP is offered the job then he'll go. Wouldn't you? We must just hope for successful new contract negotiations and hope we keep him for a couple more years.
diggers Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I think we should remember that there's no loyalty or honor in football, outside the odd one offs like Add's and Matty. Pottachino himself was lined up to take over from Adkins and was okay about being paraded to the press within hours of Nigel being shown the door, why anyone here has any expectations of Pottachino doing anything other than what's best for his career and pocket should remember they're probably using those Saints tinted goggles again. I recon he'll unfortunately be off before the start of next season
Verbal Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 If its true and MP is offered the job then he'll go. Wouldn't you? Oh, I'm sure - but I wonder how he'd deal with the massive egos among the players of one of the big European clubs, especially with his demanding training regimes. Southampton is in many ways perfect for him - not least in a mostly young, eager-to-learn, up-and-coming squad.
buctootim Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Oh, I'm sure - but I wonder how he'd deal with the massive egos among the players of one of the big European clubs, especially with his demanding training regimes. Southampton is in many ways perfect for him - not least in a mostly young, eager-to-learn, up-and-coming squad. Exactly -it could easily be a case of careful what you wish for. You sign up for the name glamour and money - then have to deal with the reality of a team of experienced high profile players with big egos. It will be much harder to get the total group buy in to what he want to do - some will have their own ideas on tactics, training and signings and won't be shy about expressing them .
Giordano Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Exactly -it could easily be a case of careful what you wish for. You sign up for the name glamour and money - then have to deal with the reality of a team of experienced high profile players with big egos. It will be much harder to get the total group buy in to what he want to do - some will have their own ideas on tactics, training and signings and won't be shy about expressing them . Quite, He has not won anything yet doing it "his way" so, currently he's not going to win over a Real Madrid team full of World Cup winners and a world player of the year. Would be a disaster imo for him and RM. RM need a BIG manager ideally a WC winning coach or manager who has been it seen it got the t shirt - not a newbie wannabee, however good he is with the likes of Southampton. Whoever wins the WC this summer- the manager would be a favorite to replace Ancelotti imo- not Mopo. Mopo's next level is a fading glory team that wants to get back up there again using youth a bit more because they are either skint or miserly. Spurs fits the bill perfectly. Arsenal post Wenger is another. Liverpool possibly another if Rodgers ever goes. Don't see the point of him moving to Aston villa or a team like that in england myself. Overseas Inter Milan is a good possibility or any of the next level below RM/Barca clubs atm in la liga...possibly a big Greek or Portugese club. I reckon maybe a dozen teams are possibles for him in the Summer. He would be great as National Coach i think - his teams really play for each other which national teams sometimes do not do despite having good individuals...he would make them greater than the sum of their parts.. so i would not be surprised if he took over Argentina one day!
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Can't see it myself, he needs a bit more recognition yet before he'd be considered for a top job like that. One more stepping stone needed, I could see him getting a nearly top Spanish club like Sociedad though.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 I like MP but is his CV really good enough for a club bigger than us? mid table in the PL, no trophies won (that I know of but I'm not totally up on his career before saints) and didn't he have a nightmare with his last Spanish club (under difficult circumstances)? Basically what has he done that would make a big side take a punt on him? He did a great job for Espanyol under difficult circumstances until it went wrong in the last season. He is very well thought of in Spain
The Cat Posted 5 February, 2014 Posted 5 February, 2014 Watching a stream of Newcastle away this season the commentator was talking about MP and said that Mourinho had recommended him to Real Madrid. Like most stuff on here it could be true or could be nonsense.
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