Graffito Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 West Ham's a good fixture so I don't want them to go down and I think they won't. Likewise Palace and Fulham, but I fear both may go down. I wouldn't miss Hull, they were poor at SMS, but they have competion in Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 I wouldn't miss Hull, they were poor at SMS, we were at our best that day, making them look worse than they are. Not overly sure about Bruce's choice of strikers, but they are a step up from Danny Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 we were at our best that day, making them look worse than they are. Not overly sure about Bruce's choice of strikers, but they are a step up from Danny Graham. I think Shane Long is a cracking signing for them, not so sure about Jelavic though. Bruce will stabilise them in the Prem and they'll become the new Wigan (who were the new us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Carroll's red card has stuck. I know he's not played much or scored for them since he came back from injury, but they've definitely looked better with him in their team. Big loss for them, in a scenario where they already struggle to score goals. Could be relegated with Fulham if they're not careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 I think Fulham and Cardiff are definates. The third slot is harder to call ... probably one of West Ham, Swansea, Stoke or most likely Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Fulham, Hull, Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Would not bet against Swansea now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Fulham deserve to go down, they have about a crowd of 500 watching them in the cup tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 4 February, 2014 Author Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Fulham deserve to go down, they have about a crowd of 500 watching them in the cup tonight And just lost in the last minute of ET to a team near the bottom of L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 And just lost in the last minute of ET to a team near the bottom of L1. Deserved win for the Blades but shocking marking for the goal by Dempsey. Not so long ago he was a cracking player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Deserved win for the Blades but shocking marking for the goal by Dempsey. Not so long ago he was a cracking player! Has any player, who has gone to play in the MLS and come back on loan for a short spell ever played well? Keane, Dempsey & Donovan are the ones I can only think of who have tried and generally done nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 4 February, 2014 Share Posted 4 February, 2014 Surprised no-one has mentioned wanting WBA to go down. They did their best to send us down. Having secured safety they lost most of the last part of the season (rolling over and giving up against a number relegation candidates), reserving their one good performance against us. So I wouldn't shed a tear if WBA (and WHam of course) go down. Normally I've nothing against Sunderland, but I'd love to see Gus go down as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 5 February, 2014 Share Posted 5 February, 2014 Fulham,cardiff and Swansea Norwich need to get some points before their last five games,otherwise may drop instead of one of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 February, 2014 Share Posted 5 February, 2014 West Ham, Fulham, Norwich. Has anyone seen Norwich's run-in? Their last four games are: Liverpool Home Man Utd Away Chelsea Away Arsenal Home March is key for them, as have mostly winnable games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 February, 2014 Share Posted 5 February, 2014 Fulham, West Brom and Swansea. Swansea going for a tea-boy manager philosophy certainly won't help their cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 5 February, 2014 Share Posted 5 February, 2014 Sep - Palace definitely down Jan - WH definitely down Dec - Cardiff definitely down Feb - Fulham definitely down Who else? West Brom, Stoke, Swansea? Don't see why a team deserves to go down for being rubbish in Jan or Feb. If Fulham win enough to stay up then they deserve to stay up. Last night's team wasn't their best side by a very long way, new signings to come in. I wouldn't write them off. They have tough fixtures coming up, so will probably be odds on for relegation with 11 or 12 games left. But it's only going to take a good run for 3 games or so to get out the drop zone, if that. It's going to change round a lot yet. Looking at the final day's fixtures might change people's minds. Bet it's still between a few clubs then. Cardiff are home to Chelsea, oh dear. Sunderland-Swansea could be important, but I think both will be safe by then. The big ones IMO will be Fulham-Palace followed by WBA-Stoke. You're quite right about the final day. The top league places might all be settled by then, one of the teams might be in the Champions League final, all I'm bothered about is Saints beating Man Utd and denying them a top 4 spot. My preferences are: West Ham West Brom Fulham Sunderland Cardiff Ah, can I have five please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 5 February, 2014 Share Posted 5 February, 2014 Fingers crossed west ham Just to go against the flow, I hope West Ham do not go down, may be that is because I am old enough to remember them having three of the 66 England winning team in their side, I do not like Big Sam or the way he has them playing right now, however, I like having West Ham in the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieDog Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Too tough to call really, but Norwich must be worried with their lat few games, I think Stoke are a poor team who are lucky to have a really good keeper (I hope that comment doesn't come back to bite me at the weekend), and the last place could be between Fulham and palace on the final day. I don't mind if west game stay up as long as fat Sam gets the sack. Any one of the bottom 10 could go, though, if they hit a slump, and there is usually one mid table side that plummets like a stone in the second half of the season Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 6 February, 2014 Share Posted 6 February, 2014 Swansea Norwich Fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Well it's not Swansea is it. Didn't think they were in much trouble. Cardiff are woeful though. If Solsjaer hadn't been a famous player, would you appoint a premier league manager based on some time in the Norwegian league? Utterly ridiculous. And why do so many managers drop decent honest pros for signings like Fabio, who has a reputation based on absolutely no ability or results? Woeful defender at MU, QPR and Cardiff. Same with Traore going to QPR and others on loan. Expensive means good....right? Delldays saying Sunderland were now safe and sound has screwed them I think. 1 point above relegation, and next 3 games are all away, to Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool! Saints and City cup games in between, but there's a very good chance despite their improvement they could lose all 5 games. Let's be honest, Saints aside, if they don't lose any of those other 4 they've done very well. I don't think they will go down, but after those 3 league games they'll be in the bottom 3 and the odds will have changed again. One thing's for sure, some utterly awful teams will be staying up. West Ham, Villa, Stoke. Which is exactly why I never thought getting promoted to the Premier league and aiming for 9th/10th was such a lofty ambition, and amazed when people say things like 'we need to sign X.Y. and Z to finish top 10'. We could be miles worse and only drop a couple of places. I do think sunderland will stay up. with games to spare they have been largly very good with poyet in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 I would go with Norwich = don't score enough goals Cardiff = too many new faces to integrate Fulham = just poor and 'over the hill' Unfortunately that would mean Fat Sam stays up.. so hopefully wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 (edited) After a trip home on a train full of moronic Stoke fans I hope and pray they go down, however unlikely that may be. It would be so nice never to go to Stoke nor suffer the idiots again. That is all. Edited 8 February, 2014 by Shroppie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Fulham Cardiff West Brom* Although I think Norwich and Crystal Palace will be in the mix on the last day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 8 February, 2014 Share Posted 8 February, 2014 Aston Villa is dead average but always seems to find ways to win a few games by their counterattacking. Norwich could be in trouble. Crystal Palace will probably be safe, Pulis defending and some good players going forward is enough this year with so many average teams. Cardiff will go down imo. Hull decent and will stay up. Fulham will go down, too many average and old players. West Brom is in trouble, dont see them having many goals in the side. West Ham, too good to go down, unfortunately. Stoke will stay up but cant really ever see them finish top 10 in the league. Will finish 12-16th 9yrs out pf 10 probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 February, 2014 Share Posted 9 February, 2014 I'm not a big fan of Pulis but I have to say his transformation of Palace (who looked dead and buried) has been remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 Meulensteen sacked by Fulham and replaced by Felix Magath. Last roll of the dice it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 Meulensteen sacked by Fulham and replaced by Felix Magath. Last roll of the dice it seems Not sure what they expect him to do. It's a very poor, old, ageing squad. It needed freshening up in the summer, yet all Jol did was add further old faces to it. They're gone IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 Meulensteen sacked by Fulham and replaced by Felix Magath. Last roll of the dice it seems Three managers in a season rarely ends well. He'll find that the PL is far more complex than the Bundesliga, no bad sides in the PL, well except for Fulham that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 Not sure what they expect him to do. It's a very poor, old, ageing squad. It needed freshening up in the summer, yet all Jol did was add further old faces to it. They're gone IMO. Given that they let Meulensteen bring in 7 players in January including a deal that cost 11m, it is ridiculous. Not even given the time to get them all into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 Shame about Fulham, but Meulensteen yet again proves the Gray -Wigley theory that good assistants don't make even average managers. Magath has the chance to disprove the 'Lowe rule of relativity' ie Dickheaded chairmen who appoint three managers in a season go down the sh!t shoot. This comes as no surprise though, other than I had expected Creep Curbishley to take the job. He obviously thinks they've gone as well and doesn't want this relegation on his cv. Probably take over in the summer. Hope Magath pulls it off, but unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 Meulensteen sacked by Fulham and replaced by Felix Magath. Last roll of the dice it seems They let Meulensteen spend a load of cash and 'freshen up' the squad, show big improvements in performance against Manure and LFC, then sack him anyway! Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 Given that they let Meulensteen bring in 7 players in January including a deal that cost 11m, it is ridiculous. Not even given the time to get them all into the team. According to the club statement they are crediting the CEO, Alistair MacIntosh with bringing in the January window players......and recommending the new manager to the owner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 They let Meulensteen spend a load of cash and 'freshen up' the squad, show big improvements in performance against Manure and LFC, then sack him anyway! Genius Completely, their owner must absolutely desperate to get a piece of that new TV deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 14 February, 2014 Share Posted 14 February, 2014 Shame about Fulham, but Meulensteen yet again proves the Gray -Wigley theory that good assistants don't make even average managers. Magath has the chance to disprove the 'Lowe rule of relativity' ie Dickheaded chairmen who appoint three managers in a season go down the sh!t shoot. This comes as no surprise though, other than I had expected Creep Curbishley to take the job. He obviously thinks they've gone as well and doesn't want this relegation on his cv. Probably take over in the summer. Hope Magath pulls it off, but unlikely. Not sure you can apply the Gray - Wigley theory on this one, Meulensteen just hasn't had the opportunity to benefit from the new players brought in. Mitroglu played for the u21's and scored twice this week, I'm sure Meulensteen would have hoped to at least get a couple of games with all of the January signings before being judged. I say that as the squad going into January was obvious relegation material. If I were Shahid Khan, I'd be questioning why MacIntosh didn't make the decision to get rid of Martin Jol as quickly as he has done here, as Jol looked like he was doing his best to get the sack. My best guess is there's been a major fallout behind the scenes. Would love Fulham to stay up as it's a great away day but Magath needs to make an impact from tomorrow morning. That said, they do have some decent fixtures in the next 4 games: West Brom (a), Chelsea (h), Cardiff (a), Newcastle (h) - they need a minimum of 6 points from those games to have any chance of staying up. Who'll go down? For me, it's any 3 from Fulham, West Brom, Cardiff & Norwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 February, 2014 Share Posted 15 February, 2014 (edited) They let Meulensteen spend a load of cash and 'freshen up' the squad, show big improvements in performance against Manure and LFC, then sack him anyway! Genius Don't they have Curbishley there looking after the recruitment ? He obviously didn't rate Meulenstein, and correctly so. The bloke has no management experience apart from being SAF's boot boy (happened exactly the same with Queiroz) and his time at Fulham was a disaster. Assistants manage feck all at Utd, well apart from making the tea and booking golf courses that is. Man U was a one man band under SAF and since he's been gone we've seen that there's no other team managemnt structure left behind. Edited 15 February, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Still stick by Cardiff, Wesr Brom and Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Cardiff, Fulham and Slumberland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 I'd love it to be West Ham, Sunderland and the third place to be taken by Villa, Stoke or Norwich.. but I bet none of them go down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Cardiff, Fulham and Slumberland. Sunderland won't go down, not with the squad that they now have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Sunderland won't go down, not with the squad that they now have. And the psychological boost that comes from cup success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 (edited) And the psychological boost that comes from cup success If you insist then. Although I still maintain that if we had their "reserves" instead of ours we'd still be Top 6 (and maybe just even still in the cup) . Keeper is a lot better than either of our other 2, so are plenty of others that they have. Edited 20 February, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 If you insist then. Although I still maintain that if we had their "reserves" instead of ours we'd still be Top 6 (and maybe just even still in the cup) . Keeper is a lot better than either of our other 2, so are plenty of others that they have. Good point. We need to invest in the reserves over the summer as I think our first team is OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 If you insist then. Although I still maintain that if we had their "reserves" instead of ours we'd still be Top 6 (and maybe just even still in the cup) . Keeper is a lot better than either of our other 2, so are plenty of others that they have. Lets get real... not one of Sunderlands players would get in our 1st team.. a couple may make the bench.. so I'm not sure where you are going with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Good point. We need to invest in the reserves over the summer as I think our first team is OK. We need to invest in the first team and if the current first team aren't good enough, they become the reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 We need to invest in the first team and if the current first team aren't good enough, they become the reserves. Would it not be cheaper to invest in specialist reserve players for the Cup and keep the first team for the League. I think Manure and Chelski do this sort of thing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo1029 Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Who I want: Norwich, Sunderland, West Ham Who will (IMO): Norwich, Fulham., Cardiff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Lets get real... not one of Sunderlands players would get in our 1st team.. a couple may make the bench.. so I'm not sure where you are going with this Bacause at some point in every season you need to look beyond the primary starting XI and have decent players in reserve so that you don't ever have to rely on the likes of KD,Gazzaniga, Danny Fox and Guly Do Prado. Take our side against say Spurs at home with Hooieveld,Gazzaniga and Fox. Draft in say Ustari, Vergini and Dossena and the side is already much improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Who I want: Norwich, Sunderland, West Ham Who will (IMO): Norwich, Fulham., Cardiff I want Norwich to stay up as I live in Norwich and like the Canaries ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 If you insist then. Although I still maintain that if we had their "reserves" instead of ours we'd still be Top 6 (and maybe just even still in the cup) . Keeper is a lot better than either of our other 2, so are plenty of others that they have. Crazy how many dont see this Everytime we have dipped into our reserves we have struggled. That and Poyet has turned off the crazy installed by PDC and got them organized. I still think they will go down though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 February, 2014 Share Posted 20 February, 2014 Lets get real... not one of Sunderlands players would get in our 1st team.. a couple may make the bench.. so I'm not sure where you are going with this Pretty obvious really if you could read. Our first 11 is pretty good, our reserves not so much. Sunderland have amassed a team that has a bit of depth, certainly they have players that can step in and do a better job then ours. Plus Id take Mannone, Borini, Dossena and Johnson if I had to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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