doubleonothing Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 @SouthamptonFC: Aaron Martin has today departed #SaintsFC after his contract was cancelled by mutual consent. All the best, Aaron! http://t.co/iS1lg5sxHC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Shame! He always did OK for us, get a Championship side mate, do not become a skate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Done a great job for us considering what he cost, hopefully signs up to a decent team to give him good first team footie. I'm guessing the run in the U21s was a final look at him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN9 Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Best of luck to him, I'm sure he'll be snapped up by a lower league team and hopefully he can make a career for himself. Always thought he performed admirably (I seem to remember him having big Kevin Davies in his pocket in a cup game), but was always going to struggle as we went through the leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Good luck to him. Another 'victim'(?!) of our swift progress through the leagues. He should be good enough to find a new club and forge a decent career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 So nobody will leave - except Lee, Barnard, Sharp and Martin Good luck Aaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Who´s left then of these squad players? Forte is he still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 not portsmouth, Aaron. Otherwise all the best etc! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 So nobody will leave - except Lee, Barnard, Sharp and Martin Good luck Aaron You seem to be still struggling with the very basics of what MP said. No one will leave who he doesn't want to leave. There you go. How many games have the above four started for the first XI this season? Good luck at Coventry Spud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 not portsmouth, Aaron. Otherwise all the best etc! Oddly enough, that would probably be a good move for him! Would leave a slightly bad taste in the mouth though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 He would get a pay rise moving to Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Oddly enough, that would probably be a good move for him! Would leave a slightly bad taste in the mouth though. Why ? We don't want him because he's not good enough, let him go wherever he can get a contract. He's had a couple of chances elsewhere and not proven himself, might not get anything much better than Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 He's a Saints fan, the likelihood of him going to play at P*mpey is quite slim. Good luck to him though, he put in some good performances for us in his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Who´s left then of these squad players? Forte is he still around? Yep, Jonathan Forte is still at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 He is a decent enough League 1 defender, certainly better than playing none-league football with the Skates next season. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 A decent stand in to Fonte and Seaborne in League One. Sadly another player whose career stalled because of our rise up the league. I hope someone from a team in the Championship has seen him play and takes a punt on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Good luck to Aaron, hope he gets to play regularly at a good club. The fact that four players who have been left in limbo for months and years have now gone in the three weeks since Cortese left says something significant, I'm just not sure what...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Did well when he played, he didn't quite keep up with the progress the club made though. Best of luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Best of luck Aaron. Not the player to lift us to the top half of the PL, but a committed and talented CB nonetheless. Hope he forges out a nice career at Championship level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Good luck to him, looked very comfortable alongside Fonte in the Championship. He'll be snapped up no problem by a league 1 side at least. Cov wanted him full time in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayrivers Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Seesm to be a effort at the moment to offload the players knocking around? I wonder if this has anything to do with the recent strcutural changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Well KL runs the club now more like a company and like all companies getting rid of "deadwwod" is needed to create good margins and profit. With deadwood i´m not slagging these players off - just don´t know any other English word to use : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Seesm to be a effort at the moment to offload the players knocking around? I wonder if this has anything to do with the recent strcutural changes? It was very hard for any of the squad players to move previously, simply as Cortese put stupid prices on their heads which clubs wouldn't meet. At least we're being fair to these players now, we may make a bit of a loss but in the grand scheme of things it's not too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Well KL runs the club now more like a company and like all companies getting rid of "deadwwod" is needed to create good margins and profit. With deadwood i´m not slagging these players off - just don´t know any other English word to use : / I don't see how paying off someone's contract early will save money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 I don't see how paying off someone's contract early will save money? It is possible to find a compromise agreement, take X amount of the total amount in exchange for early release and a chance to find new employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 (edited) Well KL runs the club now more like a company and like all companies getting rid of "deadwwod" is needed to create good margins and profit. With deadwood i´m not slagging these players off - just don´t know any other English word to use : / the "deadwood" we've offloaded will have cost as just as much as if we'd paid them until June anyway, with the exception of Sharp perhaps, in his case we'll probably be subsidising over 50% of his salary. We've simply paid off Martin and Barnard as likely as not. Something Cortese seemed to refuse to do. I noticed Gazza wasn't apparent in the training gallery today, is that because he's injured or have we finally accepted that he needs to play at his actual level a bit for him to hope to ever improve? Edited 28 January, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Profit diveded by numbers of people employed by the club - company bull**** - at least in the world outside football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 (edited) I don't see how paying off someone's contract early will save money? Because he probably didn't get the full amount of what was left on his contract and now gets the chance to find another club that will pay him during the time he would have been contracted at Saints. - Saints benefit from having to pay him less - Martin benefits as his football career can move on and he gets a payoff the "deadwood" we've offloaded will have cost as just as much as if we'd paid them until June anyway, with the exception of Sharp perhaps, in his case we'll probably be subsidising over 50% of his salary. We've simply paid off Martin and Barnard as likely as not. Something Cortese seemed to refuse to do. Barnard hasn't left Saints, he is on loan at Southend. Edited 28 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 He is young, he is only going to get better. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Because he probably didn't get the full amount of what was left on his contract and now gets the chance to find another club that will pay him during the time he would have been contracted at Saints. - Saints benefit from having to pay him less - Martin benefits as his football career can move on and he gets a payoff Barnard hasn't left Saints, he is on loan at Southend. Jeez how much contract can Barnard possibly have left with us then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 He is young, he is only going to get better. Good luck to him. Do young players ever get worse? I mean seriously, if when i was 17 i started doing something every day, be it figure skating or finger painting or anal i reckon after 10 years i would definitely be better than i was when i started out. Is inevitable! Unless i was injured or something i spose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Jeez how much contract can Barnard possibly have left with us then ? It was one of Cortese's really smart moves to give players like Barnard and Forte long contracts so clubs wouldn't steal them away from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Do young players ever get worse? I mean seriously, if when i was 17 i started doing something every day, be it figure skating or finger painting or anal i reckon after 10 years i would definitely be better than i was when i started out. Is inevitable! Unless i was injured or something i spose. They do - a lot just lose the passion and drive to play football that they had at 17. Its a bit like you with masturbation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 They do - a lot just lose the passion and drive to play football that they had at 17. Its a bit like you with masturbation. World's best football forum ladies and gents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 They do - a lot just lose the passion and drive to play football that they had at 17. Its a bit like you with masturbation. hmm whatever i may have lost in enthusiasm, and tbh I'm not sure that i have, is certainly compensated with technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 (edited) It was one of Cortese's really smart moves to give players like Barnard and Forte long contracts so clubs wouldn't steal them away from us. Still Barnard looks to be out of contract this summer anyway,3 year deal in summer 2011 can't see that we'll have prolonged that would have been a reward for promotion I suppose, so in fact we've loaned him out now and will probably just have to take him back onto the payroll for part of May and the month of June then, plus of course the handsome subsidies that we'll be giving Southend.. Might save about 60K on the whole deal, these sums are peanuts when you consider that 1 more cup game will now probably bring us in about half a million £. Edited 28 January, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Force Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 I remember Tommy Forepast getting better every year was with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 hmm whatever i may have lost in enthusiasm, and tbh I'm not sure that i have, is certainly compensated with technique. there is a difference here though. The footballers only practice for a couple of hours a day, four or five days a week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 That's a real shame - I always thought he had good potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 (edited) That's a real shame - I always thought he had good potential. was never going to be good enough for anything above League 1, too many technical weaknesses, got found out at Palace. He was probably OK with a really good CB like José alongside him and far better than average players in front of the defence. What many don't seem to realise is that the sides we put out in L1 were probably amongst the best ever seen in that division and many a below average player could pass for adequate amongst those playing at a level far below theirs. Edited 28 January, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Hmm, thought he was potentially only an injury to one of Fonte, Hooiveld or Yoshida to being on the bench with Lovren out for a while. Unless of course they are thinking Wanyama is back soon (tonight?) and can fill in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 So nobody will leave - except Lee, Barnard, Sharp and Martin Good luck Aaron There were always players going to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 (edited) Hmm, thought he was potentially only an injury to one of Fonte, Hooiveld or Yoshida to being on the bench with Lovren out for a while. Unless of course they are thinking Wanyama is back soon (tonight?) and can fill in? Was never going to be anywhere near the first team again. We have the 2 youngsters who although they aren't anywhere near PL standard are far nearer the first team than Martin will ever be. He isn't very good which is probably why he only ever played 20 or so league games for us in the 3 or 4 years he was with the squad full time. Just a stand in for the main men, Jaidi and Fonte in L1 and then Fonte and Jos in the Championship. Edited 28 January, 2014 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 There were always players going to leave. Southampton's players will not be leaving the club in the January transfer window, new chairman Katharina Liebherr has said. The announcement follows speculation that some of the Saints' squad may depart in the wake of the resignation of previous chairman Nicola Cortese. No squad players - unless they head butt a player or just rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 No squad players - unless they head butt a player or just rubbish Which is as I said at the time more of a wording default in the hastily knocked up statement than anything to really concern oneself about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Always did all right for us and seemed a nice type too. Good luck to the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Good luck to him. Hope he does well. I think he could do a very good job for a league 1 club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 Was never going to be anywhere near the first team again. We have the 2 youngsters who although they aren't anywhere near PL standard are far nearer the first team than Martin will ever be. He isn't very good which is probably why he only ever played 20 or so league games for us in the 3 or 4 years he was with the squad full time. Just a stand in for the main men, Jaidi and Fonte in L1 and then Fonte and Jos in the Championship. Why are they far nearer the squad? Neither have ever made a significant senior appearance for us (unless Stephens has had a cup run out), and the reports from the youth matches havent been amazing either. Obviously we hope that they are stars of the future, but there's not really any reason why a guy who has played some first team matches alongside Fonte and Hooiveld wouldnt be picked above the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 28 January, 2014 Share Posted 28 January, 2014 It was one of Cortese's really smart moves to give players like Barnard and Forte long contracts so clubs wouldn't steal them away from us. .....though at the time few people expected us to get two promotions on the bounce quite so quickly. Had we had 2-3 seasons in the Championship BEFORE getting to the Prem. they would probably HDAJFU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 January, 2014 Share Posted 29 January, 2014 Birmingham City are in talks to sign former Southampton defender Aaron Martin, Sky Sports understands. Martin was released by Southampton yesterday and Birmingham are interested in taking him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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