Halo Stickman Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 If it's Ballotelli and Osvaldo up front for Italy v England our best bet is to wind them up as much as possible! Yep, you’ve made a very important point: if Osvaldo does ever play for us again, then the opposition will be doing just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 just tweeted how sorry he is? No he hasn't. It was put on an instagram account that might not even be real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 No he hasn't. It was put on an instagram account that might not even be real. If it's not real where are they getting the personal pictures from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 No he hasn't. It was put on an instagram account that might not even be real. So you dont think he´s been in contact with Fonte/staff/club after the incident? Ok.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 just tweeted how sorry he is? Can't see anything in Twitter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 So you dont think he´s been in contact with Fonte/staff/club after the incident? Ok.... I didn't say that did I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 If it's not real where are they getting the personal pictures from? You're right, plenty of personal photos on there so it looks like it is a genuine account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 just tweeted how sorry he is? sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Looks like the Liverpool players have taken up dani o's training technique. Two just nutted each other and Andy surman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 The guy is a complete **** its no wonder the Roma fans hated him So are you and most on here hate you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 (edited) No idea if it's true or not but I've been told it all happened over a bad tackle on a youth player, not Osvaldo. Assume it's ******** but Jos said it apparently. And apparently it was Osvaldo doing the tackle, and Fonte reacted so Osvaldo nutted him. Sounds like my mates getting confused but meh never know Edited 25 January, 2014 by Pastor Patrón Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 You're right, plenty of personal photos on there so it looks like it is a genuine account. Many create false accounts pinching personal photos from other accounts to make them look genuine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Many create false accounts pinching personal photos from other accounts to make them look genuine So which account were they taking the pictures from then? I really don't think Osvaldo is famous enough for people to care enough to make a fake account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK8267 Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 So which account were they taking the pictures from then? I really don't think Osvaldo is famous enough for people to care enough to make a fake account. you realise there are fake lallana accounts aswell as a fake ward-prowse twitter account Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Interesting from Kelvin. Sounds like it will be tough for him to get back in. Said the dressing room is friendly and welcoming but if people don't want to be involved its their choice and they might as well not be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Kelvin Davis on Radio - We are a nice bunch with good team spirit and if anyone does not want fit in to that way then they wont be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook 25m Jesus Perez refuses to comment on the future of @danistone25 #saintsfc Not looking good for Osvaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 it seems obvious that if an offer (probably loan) comes in, he is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Following Kelv's comments it looks like Osvaldo has a lot of people to apologise to and convince he deserves another chance. We do however need to be careful not to fully close the door on him if he is prepared to let bygones be bygones and try again. Given no one on the outside knows the full facts I think we need to trust in Mo Po to deal with this in the clubs best interests. I remember Liverpool fans being up in arms about Suarez's conduct last year. I bet they are glad he patched it up and stayed on now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Reports in Italy saying he's going out on loan and will then be sold for €12m. Plenty of interest in Italy & Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Reports in Italy saying he's going out on loan and will then be sold for €12m. Plenty of interest in Italy & Spain. if we were to get £12m for him. almost money back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 if we were to get £12m for him. almost money back 12m euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 12m euros. ah, well, would be decent considering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Reports in Italy saying he's going out on loan and will then be sold for €12m. Plenty of interest in Italy & Spain. Yeah, I'd imagine IF we do want rid of him, it will be fairly simple to loan him out until the summer. They'll be a fair few teams interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey88 Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Don't thin it will be as straight forward as people think to get rid of him this window. Isn't his girlfriend due to give birth in the next month or so? Can't see them being overly keen to move right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Don't thin it will be as straight forward as people think to get rid of him this window. Isn't his girlfriend due to give birth in the next month or so? Can't see them being overly keen to move right now. Well he should have thought about that before he decided to but someone. Wouldn't give a **** what he's keen on, he's out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Many create false accounts pinching personal photos from other accounts to make them look genuine Christ on a bike some strange buggers about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Alex Goring Crook @alex_crook 25m Jesus Perez refuses to comment on the future of @danistone25 #saintsfc Not looking good for Osvaldo Especially as Jesus is all about forgiveness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylambert Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Osvaldo "Not Welcome at Saints" says Kelvin Davies http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-goalkeeper-kelvin-davis-says-3061758#.UuQFwjk4nMI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-goalkeeper-kelvin-davis-says-3061758 Southampton keeper Kelvin Davis has told £15million striker Dani Osvaldo: 'We don't want you back at St Mary's'. The fiery Italian has been suspended for two weeks after allegedly head-butting team-mate Jose Fonte in an attack said by sources to have been particularly brutal. The club are ready to listen to offers for Osvaldo as long as they can get a replacement in. Asked if he could see a future for the striker at the club, 37-year-old Davis confirmed that the Southampton squad have taken a dim view of the incident. He said: Davis said: "We are a friendly bunch. We come and talk to you guys [the media] whenever you ask us. "We've said for a long time that we have always had a good team spirit and a good changing room. "That can't change and if anyone doesn't want to be involved in that then they are not welcome." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-goalkeeper-kelvin-davis-says-3061758 How have they come up with that headline/inference from those quotes? Utter trash newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Davis told Osvaldo 'you're not welcome at st Mary's' Not quite what he said is it?! What a trashy paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Top bloke our Kelv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 "Krueger is known for his motivational speaking career, in which he explores the elements necessary to build a high-performance team. He places team spirit above individual success and he details the philosophy in his autobiographical self-help book, Teamlife: From Failure to Success." Our Ice hockey coach may have a say in the Osvaldo affair given the above para! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 If Osvaldo wants to stay he will. The club, Poch and the players will give him another chance if shows genuine remorse and puts it in for the remainder of the season. If he wants to go he'll act like a sulky **** and we'll move him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Top bloke our Kelv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 The headline is OTT but KD knew exactly what he was saying. He will surely go on loan this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 The headline is OTT but KD knew exactly what he was saying. He will surely go on loan this week. Then why didn't he say it? It sounded like he was saying, if he's willing to come into the group that's fine, if he doesn't then he has to go.... That is far from saying 'you have to go, we aren't going to give you another chance' which is what the headline suggests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Then why didn't he say it? It sounded like he was saying, if he's willing to come into the group that's fine, if he doesn't then he has to go.... That is far from saying 'you have to go, we aren't going to give you another chance' which is what the headline suggests. Because Davis is a professional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Because Davis is a professional Exactly - he would have never said that we won't give Dani a chance because he isn't like that. We will give Dani a second chance if he is willing to change and integrate into the group, that's what he said and that's what I believe the squad would do if the opportunity/circumstances arose. So he knew what he was saying, but he wasn't saying what Saint Charlie inferred he was I don't think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Because Davis is a professional Exactly. I listened live and thought it will be almost impossible for Osvaldo TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9-3 Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Disgrace. Get rid. Who was responsible signing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 If Osvaldo wants to stay he will. The club, Poch and the players will give him another chance if shows genuine remorse and puts it in for the remainder of the season. If he wants to go he'll act like a sulky **** and we'll move him on. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 (edited) The match writeup on the BBC gives a totally different impression to the Mirror. Seem to suggest forgive and forget. "Southampton captain Kelvin Davis said the club were hoping to move on following an altercation involving team-mates Dani Osvaldo and Jose Fonte. "What has happened has happened. As a team, as a squad, as a club, we are looking forward and we are very much together. "We showed that again in this game and it is something we just want to move on from. It is something we want to move on and concentrate on what happens out there [on the pitch]. "Our dressing room is as solid as it has ever been and it will continue to be so." http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25789059 Edit: Actually just watched the Saint player interview. He goes on to say we have a great dressing room spirit and if people dont want to be a part of that they aren't welcome. Edited 26 January, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 http://tinyurl.com/nq4y4zw Kelvin says Dani not welcome back unless he apologises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 Way way too soon to think about getting rid, unless the rift with the rest of the squad is irreparable. He clearly has an awful lot of talent, but he just hasn't really started to fulfil yet for whatever reason. If he hasn't got up to speed in a year/18 months time, then is time to start thinking that we have wasted our money. As things are, it really wouldn't surprise me if he ended up having a great career with us. His time in Italy shows him to be an extremely talented striker; he needs a run of undisturbed pitch time before we can really condemn him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 http://tinyurl.com/nq4y4zw Kelvin says Dani not welcome back unless he apologises obviously....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 So much for the idea of selling him after he's boosted his value with sparkling World Cup performances: http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/01/osvaldo-to-be-left-out-of-italys-world-cup-squad/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 Way way too soon to think about getting rid, unless the rift with the rest of the squad is irreparable. He clearly has an awful lot of talent, but he just hasn't really started to fulfil yet for whatever reason. If he hasn't got up to speed in a year/18 months time, then is time to start thinking that we have wasted our money. As things are, it really wouldn't surprise me if he ended up having a great career with us. His time in Italy shows him to be an extremely talented striker; he needs a run of undisturbed pitch time before we can really condemn him. It really isn't too early. Now with what Super Kelv said yesterday, I would guess most of the squad want to get rid of them too. I don't think Osvaldo himself wants to be here either. He clearly has a big ego and we don't seem to have any in our squad (apart from Lallana since he started playing for England ;)We thought it was the best signing we have ever made, turns out it was the worst. That's life, sell him quick, draw a blue line under it and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 It really isn't too early. Now with what Super Kelv said yesterday, I would guess most of the squad want to get rid of them too. I don't think Osvaldo himself wants to be here either. He clearly has a big ego and we don't seem to have any in our squad (apart from Lallana since he started playing for England ;)We thought it was the best signing we have ever made, turns out it was the worst. That's life, sell him quick, draw a blue line under it and move on The worst? My memory isn't the greatest, but even I remember worse. Delgado, Ripley, Groves, Speedie, Beresford, Dia, Davenport, Jakobsen, Forecast, the list goes on. Hypothetically, if DO had stuck the nut on Jason Euell for instance, would there be an outcry like there is now he has done it to a fan favorite? I don't like to brand people with stereotypes or labels, but there seems to be lots of knee jerking and bet wetting going on here over this. Ok, it isn't a great situation and it really shouldn't have happened, but does it really warrant the internet firing squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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