Graffito Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/tony-yorke/38861-have-saints-learned-nothing-from-woodward-failure.php Article speaks for itself but a few points. The author seems like a funny bloke. He's a business correspondent. He thinks all footballers are "morons". That can't be right, surely. “But the fact remains, when you’re dealing with morons who don’t listen to outsiders – which is the norm at a football club (I know because I used to be a director at one of them) – then you’ve got no chance of succeeding.” And, “Sorry Saints fans, I have to interpret the decision-making of Leibherr in recent days as coherent as that of someone with a few loose screws whose currently residing in a Hampshire nuthouse.” He notes that Kreugar has a “quest” at Saints but doesn’t say what it is, only that: “I hope I prove to be wrong and Krueger succeeds with his quest. But I think my tenner is safe, regardless whatever tripe the Saints come up with to justify this latest move.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Mr Tony Yorke appears very arrogant and very bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Fair enough article IMO. Word on the CEO front has gone quiet as well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/tony-yorke/38861-have-saints-learned-nothing-from-woodward-failure.php Article speaks for itself but a few points. The author seems like a funny bloke. He's a business correspondent. He thinks all footballers are "morons". That can't be right, surely. “But the fact remains, when you’re dealing with morons who don’t listen to outsiders – which is the norm at a football club (I know because I used to be a director at one of them) – then you’ve got no chance of succeeding.” And, “Sorry Saints fans, I have to interpret the decision-making of Leibherr in recent days as coherent as that of someone with a few loose screws whose currently residing in a Hampshire nuthouse.” He notes that Kreugar has a “quest” at Saints but doesn’t say what it is, only that: “I hope I prove to be wrong and Krueger succeeds with his quest. But I think my tenner is safe, regardless whatever tripe the Saints come up with to justify this latest move.” I already picked this up and commented on it via the Open letter from Katharina Liebherr thread. Essentially the man is clearly an idiot if he believes that Rugby players, Ice Hockey players, Olympic Athletes are all capable of assimilating motivational techniques, but for some reason known only to him, football players are not. So Sir Clive Woodward failed with the club when the dinosaur Redknapp was manager and Lowe Chairman, all those years ago. Therefore it can never work with footballers ever again and anybody who disagrees is obviously a lunatic. And he has the audacity to talk about people having screws loose. Incidentally, he was director of communications for under a year at Watford over 7 years ago, so that obviously qualifies him to give such insider knowledge of the intelligence of all footballers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 not the most open minded of chaps is he? I like how he dismisses all contrary opinions as tripe before he's even heard them. Does he post on here??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 I already picked this up and commented on it via the Open letter from Katharina Liebherr thread. Essentially the man is clearly an idiot if he believes that Rugby players, Ice Hockey players, Olympic Athletes are all capable of assimilating motivational techniques, but for some reason known only to him, football players are not. So Sir Clive Woodward failed with the club when the dinosaur Redknapp was manager and Lowe Chairman, all those years ago. Therefore it can never work with footballers ever again and anybody who disagrees is obviously a lunatic. And he has the audacity to talk about people having screws loose. Incidentally, he was director of communications for under a year at Watford over 7 years ago, so that obviously qualifies him to give such insider knowledge of the intelligence of all footballers. Nothing wrong with the motivation of our players. MP and staff are doing a brilliant job. Wht do we need a hockey coach to help with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 I wonder who the motivational coach is at Pompey:rolleyes: Sorry...wrong fred. Behave ottery. otherwise Badger will have you in that Freddie Mercury outfit and playing the hoover again:blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 I read it and discarded the opinions of the TROLL. Write that on any football forum and everyone would know why it's been written, a typical "look at me piece". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Incidentally, he was director of communications for under a year at Watford over 7 years ago, so that obviously qualifies him to give such insider knowledge of the intelligence of all footballers. Communications. For 12 months. That's funny. Maybe moron footballers is a Watford thing....of 7 years ago.... or maybe it was him. Even someone with a screw loose wouldn't appoint to its Board a Director who thinks all footballers are morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Talksport currently doing a comedy phone on about our ice hocky links (organ music to be played when we have the ball, etc) We seem to have returned to our place of being a humerous sideshow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Just think of the advantages...our Ice Hockey chap gives us....... when the mighty Saints play on icy/slippery playing surfaces;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 He obviously has a source very close to the club who feeds him info, which he then reports. The more interesting question is why is the club source leaking mostly negative stories and why have they ramped up in the last few weeks?......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Nothing wrong with the motivation of our players. MP and staff are doing a brilliant job. What do we need a hockey coach to help with that? Stretch your imagination and divorce the words "Hockey Coach" from the equation. In the same way that SCW produced brilliant results from motivating our Olympic athletes and you presumably would ask why they should have employed a Rugby Coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 He obviously has a source very close to the club who feeds him info, which he then reports. The more interesting question is why is the club source leaking mostly negative stories and why have they ramped up in the last few weeks?......... He said on twitter that he had been speaking with Sibley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Stretch your imagination and divorce the words "Hockey Coach" from the equation. In the same way that SCW produced brilliant results from motivating our Olympic athletes and you presumably would ask why they should have employed a Rugby Coach? I'll stretch my imagine beyond your wildest dreams Wes.... lets not stop at hockey coaches, let's bring in a tennis coach, a swimming coach, a show jumping coach and a bowling coach and have them all join the board. Think of all the motivational advantages we would have then!! It's only football in the most high profile league in the World after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 I thought it had already been said that this guy wouldn't be working with the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 He said on twitter that he had been speaking with Sibley Fair enough, maybe he is just reporting the negative stuff then, no idea why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 I'll stretch my imagine beyond your wildest dreams Wes.... lets not stop at hockey coaches, let's bring in a tennis coach, a swimming coach, a show jumping coach and a bowling coach and have them all join the board. Think of all the motivational advantages we would have then!! It's only football in the most high profile league in the World after all. You seem to miss the point and appear to be incapable of seeing that the role would not have anything to do with his abilities as an Ice Hockey coach, but more to do with his motivational powers, for which he is apparently renowned. But if you believe that that role is adequately fulfilled by Pochettino, then fair enough. Presumably you know for a fact that all of the players are motivated to the maximum already by him, the sums of money they are paid, the honour of wearing the shirt, the esprit de corps, etc. Oh, and also playing in the highest profile league in the World obviously means that no player in that division needs any motivational input to improve themselves. After all, PL players are so much more gifted mentally than those in the Italian, German and Spanish leagues. But as Tony Yorke believes football players to be morons, how can MP be doing so well at motivating ours single-handedly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Paul Waldie @pwaldieGLOBE Struggling England Premier League team Southampton turns to former #NHLOilers assistant Ralph Krueger for help. http://ow.ly/sPmE0 "Struggling"....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Talksport currently doing a comedy phone on about our ice hocky links (organ music to be played when we have the ball, etc) We seem to have returned to our place of being a humerous sideshow. Being mocked on Talksport is a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep - hardly of great concern probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 (edited) You seem to miss the point and appear to be incapable of seeing that the role would not have anything to do with his abilities as an Ice Hockey coach, but more to do with his motivational powers, for which he is apparently renowned. But if you believe that that role is adequately fulfilled by Pochettino, then fair enough. Presumably you know for a fact that all of the players are motivated to the maximum already by him, the sums of money they are paid, the honour of wearing the shirt, the esprit de corps, etc. Oh, and also playing in the highest profile league in the World obviously means that no player in that division needs any motivational input to improve themselves. After all, PL players are so much more gifted mentally than those in the Italian, German and Spanish leagues. But as Tony Yorke believes football players to be morons, how can MP be doing so well at motivating ours single-handedly? Pochettino bought in an outside motivational speaker during the Spanish summer camp, the firewalking was only part of it. I wouldn't be surprised if the main target for Krueger's efforts were the 230 or so non playing staff, in an effort to 'bring some smiles' back. Edited 22 January, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Happy for the guy to be here if he has nothing at all to do with the football side of things. However it sort of reminds me of SCW appointment. It is a bit of a strange decision trying to bring in someone with zero football experience especially at the top level and someone who isn't a business person. Will see what happens but I don't think we need him tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Mr Tony Yorke appears very arrogant and very bitter. Not to mention gratuitously offensive to people experiencing mental distress and incredibly badly informed (has he not noticed how dinosaurs like Redknapp are now an increasingly isolated minority!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Not to mention gratuitously offensive to people experiencing mental distress and incredibly badly informed (has he not noticed how dinosaurs like Redknapp are now an increasingly isolated minority!). Just pulled him on that via Twitter. Let's see what sort of response we get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Is this part of the blue chip package? This is completely underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Just pulled him on that via Twitter. Let's see what sort of response we get He took that well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 He took that well! Bless him. Poor fellow doesn't know how argumentative I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Bless him. Poor fellow doesn't know how argumentative I am Its you knowing people in the life of crime that has him running scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Bless him. Poor fellow doesn't know how argumentative I am An interesting choice of words for the article on the 'related articles' summary page too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Bless him. Poor fellow doesn't know how argumentative I am Blimey, pap isn't how I pictured him at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 A bit off topic, but do you have ANY evidence from the various sports concerned that SCW's motivation of their athletes produced brilliant results? I think cycling for one might be a bit miffed by his contribution being bigged up like this. Nevertheless as an Ice Hockey fan, I'm sure The Oilers ex-coach has plenty of good advice to offer, as a board member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 I wonder if Mike Ashley is happy for his company's website to be bad mouthing a fellow football club owner...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Blimey, pap isn't how I pictured him at all... Midlife crisis, mush. I'm told it gets better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiorob Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Speaking as a massive ice hockey fan, and of the Oilers in particular, I think this is a great appointment. The fitness levels in the NHL make most PL footballers look like James Corden. They are honed for explosive speed and physical toughness, something that is a definite advantage in our league. The Oilers also have a policy of developing young players over time and training them to play a certain way, and are rebuilding from a tough few seasons - sound familiar? He should slot in pretty well, I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Speaking as a massive ice hockey fan, and of the Oilers in particular, I think this is a great appointment. The fitness levels in the NHL make most PL footballers look like James Corden. They are honed for explosive speed and physical toughness, something that is a definite advantage in our league. The Oilers also have a policy of developing young players over time and training them to play a certain way, and are rebuilding from a tough few seasons - sound familiar? He should slot in pretty well, I think... Why did they fire him after only 1 season then, too good for them was he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 22 January, 2014 Share Posted 22 January, 2014 Why did they fire him after only 1 season then, too good for them was he ? New GM who wanted his own head coach and - in the opinion of many - dropped a very big clanger. A lot of fans have raised the possibility of getting Ralph back. But he's now involved with Canada's Olympic hockey team, and you don't get anywhere near that unless you're extremely highly regarded. Look, don't knock Ralph - he's a very talented guy with many attributes, and an extremely pleasant person. My only reservation is with his lack of football experience, but then we don't know what his role will be, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 few quotes here http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/01/22/ralph-krueger-is-going-to-work-for-an-english-soccer-team/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 few quotes here http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/01/22/ralph-krueger-is-going-to-work-for-an-english-soccer-team/ “I don’t pretend to know a lot about football … I mean, I’ve been in Europe a long time and certainly watched it,” probably better qualified in that regard than Lowe was then The Southampton Saints were relegated from the Premier League and played in the third tier three years ago No Mr Krueger, no...don't you f'king dare do it... ..does emphasise why Americans & Canadians should not meddle in our national sport * *along with chinks, Malaysians, and Arabs etc to a lesser extent, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 probably better qualified in that regard than Lowe was then The Southampton Saints were relegated from the Premier League and played in the third tier three years ago No Mr Krueger, no...don't you f'king dare do it... ..does emphasise why Americans & Canadians should not meddle in our national sport * TBF Kreuger didn't actually call us that, the bloke who wrote the article did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 TBF Kreuger didn't actually call us that, the bloke who wrote the article did. Seemed to also think that Markus was part of the cranes,freezers and heavy machinery branch as well. Obviously ill informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red And White Barmy Army Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 From the little I've picked up about his background, I would have thought his job title would be closer to "High Performance Director" than "Motivational Speaker". A lot of knowledge and experience in this type of role can be transferred across sports and seems to relate closely to the things directly affecting the players that Cortese has been credited for (i.e. bringing mattresses to away games, diet, and all the other little things that we probably haven't heard about). Makes sense to have someone who has this specific role and is a specialist in sport alongside a CEO responsible for finances (completely different jobs!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 TBF Kreuger didn't actually call us that, the bloke who wrote the article did. Yes- I did realise that, but thanks for clarifying for the masses. I would not want someone such as Ottery to get the wrong end of the stick when he reads the board after he's done the hoovering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 I wonder what our Ice Hockey board member would make of this on-pitch fighting emerging today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint George Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 “I don’t pretend to know a lot about football … I mean, I’ve been in Europe a long time and certainly watched it,” Krueger said from Davos, Switzerland, “But when I got contacted a while back, it seemed like an interesting offer hmmm...So I'm guessing this could be one of the things that pushed Cortese over the edge....wonder what else has been going on behind the scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 23 January, 2014 Share Posted 23 January, 2014 hmmm...So I'm guessing this could be one of the things that pushed Cortese over the edge....wonder what else has been going on behind the scenes Cortese handed in his notice over 3 months ago, when Krueger says "a while back" he could mean any time since. It would have been prudent to have a contingency plan if NC were to follow through with his resignation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Looks like him next to Katharina at today's game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurichsaint Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Looks like him next to Katharina at today's game? Yes, it is. My icehockey fan mate just confirmed it was him. He thought I was kidding until he saw the photo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Good stuff, we are now officially on course to become the Southampton Saints.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 25 January, 2014 Share Posted 25 January, 2014 Can't understand the negativity? Its not like he's replacing MP as manager, he's on the Board and has a lot of sporting experience by the sounds of it. Let's see what he's able to bring to the table before writing him off completely eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeweahscousin Posted 26 January, 2014 Share Posted 26 January, 2014 I spoke to an NHL expert on Kreugar, sounds like an interesting guy. Also includes a radio interview in which he refers to Saints as 'we' and talks about having the best Academy in the world! http://wp.me/p1mFFL-14A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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