Is Boruc good enough..?

[Unbelievable Jeff]

Again yesterday at fault for one of the goals, and should have saved the other. Seems to be a theme that ever few games he costs us goals. I wonder whether we need to invest in a new keeper, at least to keep the pressure on Artur.

[Batman]

you could argue, is shaw good enough. let johnson shoot like that,

[Wade Garrett]

He should have had them both. Can't see us signing anyone this window though.

[Unbelievable Jeff]

you could argue, is shaw good enough. let johnson shoot like that,

 

What a spurious comment? Boruc has been at fault for a quite a few goals this season, do you not agree?

[THEVMAN]

If we dropped or got rid of every player that made a mistake during a game we would have very few left,**** happens

[Saint_clark]

What a spurious comment? Boruc has been at fault for a quite a few goals this season, do you not agree?

 

I'd say two. The second one yesterday and the Arsenal one.

The first one he just got his finger tips to and if Borini had actually caught it as he meant it would have been an easy save.

The Stoke goal was not his fault, as anyone else who was there will tell you (providing they didn't get blown away pre kick-off).

[Turkish]

Are our strikers good enough? Both do them missed good chances yesterday,

[Wade Garrett]

If we dropped or got rid of every player that made a mistake during a game we would have very few left,**** happens

 

All the original poster was saying was should we sign a keeper to put pressure on Artur. He didn't say anything about dropping him or getting rid of him.

 

i think it's a valid question.

[Saint Garrett]

Boruc is top drawer but didn't seem right yesterday. Have we pushed him back too soon?!

[Ludwig]

Yes, he is good enough.

[IOWSaintDaz]

He did not look fit or his mind was elsewhere yesterday even before coinciding the 2 soft goals and the incident where he went down, Kelvin was ready to replace him but stayed he on. a risking strategy if he made another mistake, as he would have cost us the game. I know its debatable that Kelvin would of leaked more goals but this is why we need some decent cover in this position.

 

We don't know what effect the departure of Cortese has had on him for instance?

 

With questions over his fitness or state of mind he should be rested against Yeovil next weekend (i'm sure he wil be) so he can get himself right for Arsenal on Tuesday, if he plays like he did against Sunderland and potentially with Jos or Yoshida at the back it would be disastrous to risk him in view of what happened last time out

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Boruc is top drawer but didn't seem right yesterday. Have we pushed him back too soon?!

 

At one point Kelvin was getting his gloves on and looked like he was about to come on. Whether the injuries to Gaston & Lovren meant he had to stay on even though he was not quite right, although Johnson had scored by then anyway and he went on to make 2 decent stops.

[Fan The Flames]

He will be disappointed with both goals yesterday.

[Mowgli]

Bt were still pointing out that he is probably the best goalkeeper in the premier league

[Barry the Badger]

When he first came into the team last season he looked a bit slower and rusty. I think that's all we're seeing at the moment, give him a few games to get back into it.

[teenagegsaint]

His mistakes this season:

Arsenal away (Giroud goal)

Sunderland away (Johnson goal)

 

He's a top, top keeper and one of the best in the league

[S4INT]

you could argue, is shaw good enough. let johnson shoot like that,

 

This. Like Everton - when Shaw is isolated one-on-one there is always a chance of a shot being got-off. I think Boruc is top, top quality. To me it looked like the goal actually took a tiny nick off of Sure (but I'm not Shaw of that)

[Window Cleaner]

This. Like Everton - when Shaw is isolated one-on-one there is always a chance of a shot being got-off. I think Boruc is top, top quality. To me it looked like the goal actually took a tiny nick off of Sure (but I'm not Shaw of that)

 

 

Shaw is not a top class defender as of yet, that's why no-one will give us 30 million £ for him. Those that are often reportedly

interest in doing so are looking at real LBs just now, Coentrao from Real and Soaré (who I might just have mentioned would be a great replacement if someone actually did give us silly money for Shaw) from Lille. These lads have been there, done that, played in the CL and are fulll internationals with a shedload of caps behind them but are still young and wouldn't cost half of the amounts people like to bandy about for Shaw.

[Saint_Tony]

He's going to have to chip in with a couple of goals to get back these points he owes us. To be fair Johnson hit it hard and it seemed to catch him out a bit, I think with a lot of keepers the outcome would have been the same. But until we are the best club team in the world winning 6-0 every week there will always be people questioning if our players are good enough

[OldNick]

Boruc is our no1 keeper, he could have done better with the 2nd yesterday. He gets more slack for mistakes than the other keepers but a few mistakes a season is what should be expected. Watch all the keepers mistakes yesterday in the PL

[Whitey Grandad]

He's good but he's not top-notch. And I agree about Shaw, he should have done better with Johnson.

[Kenilworthy]

I have do doubt In Boruc's ability. But he didn't show the strong hands on the second goal yesterday that he showed at Liverpool for example in pulling a freekick out of the net. I do wonder if his hand is fully healed and we might have rushed him back too early.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Coulda, shoulda saved both yesterday

 

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[St Chalet]

Yes he is good enough. Our need for a backup is more pressing.

[Window Cleaner]

Not really, the sensible move for any LB there would be to show him onto his right foot, not letting him cut in and use his left. He let him get a weaker foot shot away from an angle you wouldn't expect anyone to score from. Should be saved every single time.

 

Boruc can be great, and was consistently until that Stoke goal which maybe dented his confidence a bit. But goals like yesterday are unacceptable and what we'd expect from Gazza or Davis. I've seen enough to think a new keeper in the summer might be a good idea.

 

As I expect total upheaval next summer I'd think replacing Boruc will be the least of our concerns.

[Pahars_Legend]

Unquestionably good enough.

[Georgie]

He's a great keeper but we definately need much better back up as competition. I think if we had a better back up keeper than Davis then Boruc would not be back playing yet. He's probably been rushed back too quickly but he's by far the best we've got.

[LostBoys]

Should have saved both

[Charlie Wayman]

you could argue, is shaw good enough. let johnson shoot like that,

 

You could indeed, lots of oppo goals come down the right side because he's so often caught out of position. Give Boruc some slack, he's been out for weeks had next to nothing to do until suddenly the ball's past him into the net. Could have done better on their second? Have you any idea how fast that bloody ball is going when it's hit full belt from 5 yards and near the post. I don't blame him for not having fast enough reactions to stop it and the memory of his recent accident smashing a hand against a post won't have helped his automatic instincts in that particular instance but for sure he didn't hold up the white flag either.

 

Of course if his hand is not 100% and was a factor then he shouldn't be playing until super fit and ready, it was odd he wanted off soon after maybe he realised that when the **** hits the fan like that he isn't really ready to risk all.

[Whitey Grandad]

You could indeed, lots of oppo goals come down the right side because he's so often caught out of position. Give Boruc some slack, he's been out for weeks had next to nothing to do until suddenly the ball's past him into the net. Could have done better on their second? Have you any idea how fast that bloody ball is going when it's hit full belt from 5 yards and near the post. I don't blame him for not having fast enough reactions to stop it and the memory of his recent accident smashing a hand against a post won't have helped his automatic instincts in that particular instance but for sure he didn't hold up the white flag either.

 

Of course if his hand is not 100% and was a factor then he shouldn't be playing until super fit and ready, it was odd he wanted off soon after maybe he realised that when the **** hits the fan like that he isn't really ready to risk all.

 

Quite a bit more than 5 yards.

[david in sweden]

Again yesterday at fault for one of the goals, and should have saved the other. Seems to be a theme that ever few games he costs us goals. I wonder whether we need to invest in a new keeper, at least to keep the pressure on Artur.

 

 

 

not good enough? ...........well compared to the two other alternatives.......he's superb. Every goalie concedes from time to time, and some more than others.

 

I didn't read you complaining when he conceded only 4 goals in our first 10 games, (and that included 6 clean sheets.(btw)

 

Do we need another top international goalie ....YES (see sentence above)...and to have proper cover for just such injury situations (as Chelsea)

 

for the record; during the time Boruc was out injured: Gazzaniga conceded 9 goals in 5½ games...... and KD let in 8 in his 3 starts.

[Dr Who?]

Great keeper, but we need a good back up to keep him on his toes. Everyone need the pressure from compitition.

[max_saints]

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[BlakeySFC]

One of the best keepers in the league.

[SuperMikey]

Could have saved both goals yesterday, but he's just come back from a month and a half layoff. Lets give him a bit of time to be back to his old self, eh?

 

Is everyone forgetting the 2 points he saved for us last week against WBA?

 

[S-Clarke]

The least of our worries, I'd have thought.

[Olallana]

Keepers like all players make mistakes, look at Mignolet for Villas second yesterday.

 

I also think Johnson mis-hit his shot with his weaker foot yesterday and that Boruc thought it would go to the far corner of the goal and got flat-footed for that one.

Could´ve saved it, not necessarily a mistake though.

[DuncanRG]

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That's what you get when you know our team from highlights, I suppose.

 

He's among the best, but needs competition.

[eharty9]

yeah, do you reckon we should put Gazzaniga in instead? i reckon that would be a good shout mate. OF COURSE HE IS ****ING GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seriously why on earth do our fans pick holes in every player!! negativity in contagious try to keep it to yourself

[Whitey Grandad]

yeah, do you reckon we should put Gazzaniga in instead? i reckon that would be a good shout mate. OF COURSE HE IS ****ING GOOD ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seriously why on earth do our fans pick holes in every player!! negativity in contagious try to keep it to yourself

 

That's not the point really, is it? 'Could we do better?' Is the real question.

[Saints foreva]

Could have saved both goals yesterday, but he's just come back from a month and a half layoff. Lets give him a bit of time to be back to his old self, eh?

 

Is everyone forgetting the 2 points he saved for us last week against WBA?

 

 

Or the two points he saved on the opening day of the season against them from a header that looked bound for the back of the net. Easily our save of the season so far.

 

He's made some errors but he's earned us more points than he's lost this season.

[adrian lord]

No, in short. We have big problems between the sticks.

[BlakeySFC]

No, in short. We have big problems between the sticks.

 

[View From The Top]

Do we have more than our fair share of mongs following Saints?

 

FFS, he should have saved the 2nd but he's a top, top keeper and you'd have to be mentally deficient to think otherwise.

[Saint Without a Halo]

I thought his stats said before yesterdays game that he is the top shot stopper in the premiership at 83%! Therefore if this argument is logical statistically every keeper in the premiership needs replacing!

[OldNick]

not good enough? ...........well compared to the two other alternatives.......he's superb. Every goalie concedes from time to time, and some more than others.

 

I didn't read you complaining when he conceded only 4 goals in our first 10 games, (and that included 6 clean sheets.(btw)

 

Do we need another top international goalie ....YES (see sentence above)...and to have proper cover for just such injury situations (as Chelsea)

 

for the record; during the time Boruc was out injured: Gazzaniga conceded 9 goals in 5½ games...... and KD let in 8 in his 3 starts.

I don't think our best defence was in front KD when he played

[GAS]

Again yesterday at fault for one of the goals, and should have saved the other. Seems to be a theme that ever few games he costs us goals. I wonder whether we need to invest in a new keeper, at least to keep the pressure on Artur.

Definitely need to invest in a keeper. There is no real pressure on Boruc from KD or Gazza.

[nta786]

I don't think our best defence was in front KD when he played

 

He had Chambers, Lovren, Fonte and Shaw in the two prem games he played in?! With the exception of Chambers, they're our usual defenders?

 

Fair enough he had Hooiveld and Yoshida for the Burnley game but he could've better with some of the goals anyway.

[SuperMikey]

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Christ, do they honestly think that Vito Mannone is a better keeper than Artur? People call us deluded.

[Crab Lungs]

What the actual f*** to those dippy Sunderland fans, what the actual f*** to people slating him on here. Best keeper since Niemi, arguably better (though more mental) than Niemi. Jesus H.