Verbal Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Got surnames of 3 of them.. Kruger, Hofsetter and Lenhart. Could be family/friends or anyone though, no idea. Initial googling suggests to me tax consultants, possibly auditors. Or possibly characters from popular American sitcoms. Good grief, this is getting silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Got surnames of 3 of them.. Kruger, Hofsetter and Lenhart. Could be family/friends or anyone though, no idea. Jonathan Hofstetter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Are we sold yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Jonathan Hofstetter? So what are the two letters he is obscuring then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Are we sold yet? Page 263 mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Peter White @peterwhite_1 22s Just in case anyone is interested I'm on Talksport tonight from 7.0, talking about Saints situation. #saintsfc Peter White is the guy who wrote the article in today's Mirror. Maybe he will clue us in on where he heard this rumour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Here comes the Hofstetter... He's investment banker... Pick up the crew in de area! Still you love it like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 I missed the old takeover threads! The excitement, the wild theories, the bull****, the earlobe analysis, the general fun and games and the arguing amongst the usual suspects! Good to see those Halcyon days have returned! And in case anyone is interested, Paul Allen's yacht continues to be in Hamburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 My brother-in-law had a Sunseeker once...I'll ask him if he knows anything if you think it will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 @peterwhite_1: “@bigadamsport: I'm informed that Cortese-Chinese consortium #saintsfc takeover story is well wide of the mark”source mate? @bigadamsport: @peterwhite_1 different to yours obviously, but one I believed enough to tweet that - who was yours? @runtherainbow: @bigadamsport apparently common knowledge with the Sunseeker employees for some weeks source one of my business partner a with a Sunseker @bigadamsport: @runtherainbow well I may be wrong but told by people in contact with club's hierarchy that it's not been on agenda or discussed So just to see if I understand this. The take over article in the Mail(?)was based on the journo knowing a bloke who owns a SunSeeker yacht who was told by the guy that sold him the Sunseeker yacht that all the employs at Sunseeker know the ins and outs of a deal that a Chinese business man who owns Sunseeker is planning ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Cooper, Hofsteder and Wolwitz. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk what about Raj then ? Astrophysicists never get the recognition they merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 That wouldn't make sense. Not a very Germanic name. Come on! Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Kung Hei Fat Choi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 ...and a Happy New Year to all Saints fans! Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 So just to see if I understand this. The take over article in the Mail(?)was based on the journo knowing a bloke who owns a SunSeeker yacht who was told by the guy that sold him the Sunseeker yacht that all the employs at Sunseeker know the ins and outs of a deal that a Chinese business man who owns Sunseeker is planning ......... No. That is some Random from Romsey, not the Mirror reporter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 @peterwhite_1: “@bigadamsport: I'm informed that Cortese-Chinese consortium #saintsfc takeover story is well wide of the mark”source mate? @bigadamsport: @peterwhite_1 different to yours obviously, but one I believed enough to tweet that - who was yours? @runtherainbow: @bigadamsport apparently common knowledge with the Sunseeker employees for some weeks source one of my business partner a with a Sunseker @bigadamsport: @runtherainbow well I may be wrong but told by people in contact with club's hierarchy that it's not been on agenda or discussed So Blackmore's source wasn't Cortese... who would have thought! People in contact with the club's hierarchy = the media team?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 So Blackmore's source wasn't Cortese... who would have thought! People in contact with the club's hierarchy = the media team?? Or someone close to Cortese which was what he said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Adam Blackmore stated that the his source was in touch with the club hierarchy where he has been given the impression that a takeover has not been discussed. This doesn't mean they will or won't sell, nor that there isn't an interested party. So really it doesn't tell us much other than perhaps that if a takeover is potentially in the offing, that it isn't something that the club is aware of or working towards at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Got surnames of 3 of them.. Kruger, Hofsetter and Lenhart. Could be family/friends or anyone though, no idea. Griffo mate. Idont think you should be putting up this private and sensitive info. Someone's job will be on the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Or someone close to Cortese which was what he said... @bigadamsport: @runtherainbow well I may be wrong but told by people in contact with club's hierarchy that it's not been on agenda or discussed Cortese isn't part of the club's hierarchy anymore, HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Adam Blackmore stated that the his source was in touch with the club hierarchy where he has been given the impression that a takeover has not been discussed. This doesn't mean they will or won't sell' date=' nor that there isn't an interested party. So really it doesn't tell us much other than perhaps that if a takeover is potentially in the offing, that it isn't something that the club is aware of or working towards at the moment.[/quote'] Dont talk such rubbish. CB Fry says that Adam's contact is Cortese and CB Fry knows everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 @bigadamsport: @runtherainbow well I may be wrong but told by people in contact with club's hierarchy that it's not been on agenda or discussed Cortese isn't part of the club's hierarchy anymore, HTH. Probably the same person who rang FB . If NC did return I sense there will be a job vacancy pretty soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) @bigadamsport: @runtherainbow well I may be wrong but told by people in contact with club's hierarchy that it's not been on agenda or discussed Cortese isn't part of the club's hierarchy anymore, HTH. If Cortese was planning something, the one thing you can guarantee is that the staff at SFC would know jack sh!t about it. To be honest I'm not bothered what happens. If anyone was to buy the club chances are they are going to have a decent amount of cash. If the Leibherrs want to keep it and hire another CEO - great. If Cortese comes back with a super-rich owner - fine. Edited 19 January, 2014 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 If Cortese was planning something, the one thing you can guarantee is that the staff at SFC would know jack sh!t about it. I don't disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport8h I'm informed that Cortese-Chinese consortium #saintsfc takeover story is well wide of the mark FM Saints Researcher@MatthewLeGod2m @bigadamsport If a bid hadn't gone in but Wanda planned to in the future how would your contact know? All they'd do is deny a takeover today Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport1m @MatthewLeGod correct, you're right FM Saints Researcher @MatthewLeGod52s @bigadamsport I'm not saying the Mirror are right. But your contact doesn't appear to have told you anything that denies the Mirror story. So he doesn't actually have evidence it is "well wide of the mark" and he agrees with me as such. It may well be well wide of the mark, but he doesn't have any evidence for that. Edited 19 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Finance & tax specialists just to appoint a CEO.... Takeover talks imo Their primary business is succession planning - so if it is them they are likely people Markus hired, not KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Peter White, the reporter who wrote Mirror story is on talksport at 7 to talk about saints I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport8h I'm informed that Cortese-Chinese consortium #saintsfc takeover story is well wide of the mark FM Saints Researcher@MatthewLeGod2m @bigadamsport If a bid hadn't gone in but Wanda planned to in the future how would your contact know? All they'd do is deny a takeover today Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport1m @MatthewLeGod correct, you're right FM Saints Researcher @MatthewLeGod52s @bigadamsport I'm not saying the Mirror are right. But your contact doesn't appear to have told you anything that denies the Mirror story. So he doesn't actually have evidence it is "well wide of the mark" and he agrees with me as such. It may well be well wide of the mark, but he doesn't have any evidence for that. Keep up the good work mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Talking about this on TalkSport now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) Peter White, the reporter who wrote Mirror story is on talksport at 7 to talk about saints I think. Yep, they are talking Saints now. Edited 19 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Peter White said he first heard about Wang on Thursday. And... "My source has close connections with Southampton football club ( but doesn't work there ) and also with Dalian Wanda" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Has no one stopped to notice that the rumor started when a member of this forums SUGGESTED a potential new owner, by linking him to the area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 He doesn't sound that convincing to me, it's as though he has been reading this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Has no one stopped to notice that the rumor started when a member of this forums SUGGESTED a potential new owner, by linking him to the area? We've all noticed, we're just having fun imagining the megadome after a crappy week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 well yeah, its blatantly obvious where the gutter get their made up news from, sites like this full of people on the wind up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) peter white this story has substance and credibility heard about it thursday have enough info to write the story or would not source is very much ITK and has connections with both saints and dalian group Believe NC has been approached, this is not just a spat with the owner NC is an astute man and would not just "walk away" Talks will take place between KL and dalian group wont do KL any good what so ever to sell anyone of note, will only devalue to the club Dalian group VERY interesting in buying up UK assets other journo in studio saints are NOT worth £175m story set up by KL to serve he own interests to spark a bidding war chinese wont come in for saints, simple as that. never ever, Not this man who is very close to the government in china saints only worth £120m MAX KL is definitely a seller it will NOT be this man to buy the club southampton are a fabulous football club but suited for american owners wonderful support base in the south, could easily increase their ground Edited 19 January, 2014 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Unconvincing I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Personally I'd like to see someone with the Liebheer family name see our project through - In all this gushing and pant wetting about an internet rumor it seems quickly forgotten who brought this club out of some very dark days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Has no one stopped to notice that the rumor started when a member of this forums SUGGESTED a potential new owner, by linking him to the area? The rumour was going round their ship yards on Poole Quay before it appeared on here. My lad works there and he mentioned it to me before MLG's thread started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) peter white other journo in studio saints are NOT worth £175m story set up by KL to serve he own interests to spark a bidding war chinese wont come in for saints, simple as that. never ever, Not this man who is very close to the government in china saints only worth £120m MAX KL is definitely a seller it will NOT be this man to buy the clubit is funny how they think that we are worth 120 m and not 175m, the person can pay the 120m is hardly going to shy away at the higher price,they would obviously negotiate but people who can play around by buying a football club for over 100m does not see money as a deal breaker Edited 19 January, 2014 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Personally I'd like to see someone with the Liebheer family name see our project through - In all this gushing and pant wetting about an internet rumor it seems quickly forgotten who brought this club out of some very dark days. Like who ? There's Mrs and the two girls...the rest don't give a toss because they've largely enough to do with whatever it is they do with cranes, dumper trucks and freezers. If any of them had been remotely interested Cortese would have been outta here a couple of years back, not to mention last May. Cortese ran from his desk at SMS all of what remained of the empire up until last October, now what does that tell you exactly ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 He didn't sound convincing what so ever to be honest, which is a shame. It just sounded like a load of waffle as per the Paul Allen days. Being fed by someone I imagine just to keep the interest ticking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 The rumour was going round their ship yards on Poole Quay before it appeared on here. My lad works there and he mentioned it to me before MLG's thread started. I read it on this forum before MLG's post started...Jxrsaint posted it on an initial Cortese thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughba Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 9m John Williams is a highly respected figure in football - currently at Man City in football ops, stepped aside at Ewood after Venky's arrived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughba Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 14m John Williams, former Blackburn chairman, born in Southampton, is a contender for chief exec role at #saintsfc - would be a top appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) Like who ? There's Mrs and the two girls...the rest don't give a toss because they've largely enough to do with whatever it is they do with cranes, dumper trucks and freezers. If any of them had been remotely interested Cortese would have been outta here a couple of years back, not to mention last May. Cortese ran from his desk at SMS all of what remained of the empire up until last October, now what does that tell you exactly ??? If NC gave a toss he'd still be there in the same analogy - thing is no one knows its all speculation and most of the info is second hand , putting 2 and 2 together from Google researching . Any one with a sense of journalistic back ground could form an opinion based on Google . Edited 19 January, 2014 by qwertySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 it is funny how they think that we are worth 120 m and not 175m, the person can pay the 120m is hardly going to shy away at the higher price But it seems to have been the case from day one that KL has wanted a "Premium" price for the club. Otherwise we'd have been bought by muppets by now. It may well now be WORTH 120mil. But let's face it she doesn't need the money so can afford to sit on the asset. As a negotiating tool the longer it is left the more risk to an interested party that some assets would be sold but she would STILL want the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 Fair piece overall on talksport. Summary Nobody in the studio was convinced Club not worth 175m, partly because of the impression KL is desperate to sell 120m probably more like it would be a good investment for someone with deep pockets and a willingness to develop the club Agreed selling of prize players makes no sense as it would devalue club to buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 If NC gave a toss he'd still be there in the same analogy don't really see what you mean there. NC was appointed by the late Markus to run everything. Something has changed and he's gone to seek pastures new but it doesn't mean that the other factions of the Liebherr family are any more interested than they once were. That's why the club currently has no CEO, just an owner who's filled the breach at the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 January, 2014 Share Posted 19 January, 2014 I once spent an interesting drive up to Doncaster listening to Leon Crouch's explanation of the Tommac/Paul Allen takeover. I was staggered how, based on very little evidence, Tommac was able to convince the board at the time there was something in the story that Allen was interested and even managed to fleece them for more than a few grand. Like all Saints fans I desperately wanted the Allen thing to be true but at the time, when I think of all the hours I spent on the forums waiting for the final announcement that our club was rich and yet at the end of the day it was all based on a con man and a very naiive board, then I am going to be truly sceptical about this story. One thing I know when it comes to football clubs being for sale every Walter Mitty, tyre kicker, nutjob and fantasist comes out of the woodwork. And even if it is true I am not sure I want it to happen, especially if it means the return of the bully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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