Jimmy_D Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Yes quite a few are but they're all reporting the Mirror story pretty much ad verbatim. No new details are provided. Cheers
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Jesus Christ, MLG. Blackmore's source is almost certainly Cortese or someone very close. What are you basing that on?
shurlock Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Cheers As I say, no new details are provided beyond the Mirror piece though some are suggesting Poch knows about the bid and is a reason for him staying which could be ******* http://sports.sina.com.cn/g/pl/2014-01-19/12106987610.shtml http://news.xinhuanet.com/sports/2014-01/19/c_126026518.htm http://sports.163.com/14/0119/10/9IUQMT0G00051CCL.html#p=8G635JRV0B6P0005 http://www.espnstar.com.cn/pub/international/2014/0119/311420.htm
sydneysaint17 Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Won't happen - someone has just made the Sunseeker link and thought up a story. No evidence to support and some evidence to suggest its not happening.
trousers Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Jesus Christ, MLG. Blackmore's source is almost certainly Cortese or someone very close. Blackmore: "Hello Mr Cortese, Adam from the BBC here. Any truth in the rumour you're involved with this Wang fella in a bid to takeover Saints?" Cortese: "No." Blackmore: "Ok, thank you Mr Cortese. That's cleared that up. Bye".
Badger Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Won't happen - someone has just made the Sunseeker link and thought up a story. No evidence to support and some evidence to suggest its not happening. Not sure there is "evidence" either way really. Just a case of Chinese whispers if you ask me.
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 This is an interesting interview, the numbers he rattles off are staggering... If this comes off we could be competing with Man City and Chelsea, Cortese's ambition and Jianlin Wang's resources would be quite a combination. Hadn't you noticed that we are already competing with Man City & Chelsea or is the PL organised differently these days?
Saints4Prem Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 What a shame its all made up? I was just beginning to get used to going to the "Sunseeker St Mary's Stadium"
niceandfriendly Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Jesus Christ, MLG. Blackmore's source is almost certainly Cortese or someone very close. Hahaha, yeh, Cortese and Blackmore have always been water-tight.
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Hadn't you noticed that we are already competing with Man City & Chelsea or is the PL organised differently these days? We aren't currently competing with them for the title are we?
Batman Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 We aren't currently competing with them for the title are we? in that case, players like luke shaw will leave
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Blackmore: "Hello Mr Cortese, Adam from the BBC here. Any truth in the rumour you're involved with this Wang fella in a bid to takeover Saints?" Cortese: "No." Blackmore: "Ok, thank you Mr Cortese. That's cleared that up. Bye". More or less, yeah. Far more likely than Blackmore ringing the SFC press office for confirmation of a story that is about their ex Chief Exec and a potential buyer, which was MLG's sweet little theory.
Batman Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 lets be honest, a mega billionaire is not going to buy saints AND pump money into the club like chelsea/city just not going to happen
Turkish Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 lets be honest, a mega billionaire is not going to buy saints AND pump money into the club like chelsea/city just not going to happen That's what Chelsea fans would have said in 1984!
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 More or less, yeah. Far more likely than Blackmore ringing the SFC press office for confirmation of a story that is about their ex Chief Exec and a potential buyer, which was MLG's sweet little theory. So Blackmore ringing Cortese is more likely than Blackmore contacting one of the many members of the Saints media department he meets with regularly? Really? I mean really?
Amesbury Saint Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 lets be honest, a mega billionaire is not going to buy saints AND pump money into the club like chelsea/city just not going to happen But it is great to speculate about!
SaintBobby Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Bit scpetical about this Wang rumour to be honest. Very Paul Allenesque and all a bit 2 + 2 = £175m. That said, if some billionaire does want to buy a PL club, we are surely a very attractive prospect.
Batman Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 But it is great to speculate about! and ultimately disappointed when some mug turns up and heaps the loan to buy the club back on the club
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Hahaha, yeh, Cortese and Blackmore have always been water-tight. Blackmore has been as good a mouthpiece for Cortese as any in recent times. Blackmore not quite as sycophantic as some of Cortese's chums on the nationals who have reached Redknapp levels of hero worship, granted.
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 So Blackmore ringing Cortese is more likely than Blackmore contacting one of the many members of the Saints media department he meets with regularly? Really? I mean really? I know you're heart broken that for the last three years you've been pompously claiming how the press deal in undubstantiated rumours and we do our business properly and all that rot....while all the time Cortese has been building a coterie of hacks, falling over themselves to spout of some Nicola pearls of wisdom. While you've been belittling the press on your hero's behalf, he's been all over them. So spare me the "really" routine. Blackmore could have easily rung Cortese. He's a frigging unemployed football administrator, not Kim Jung Un. He's probably sat by the phone right now waiting for his sweetheart Neil Ashton to ring him. Remember: real life. Not a computer game.
georgeweahscousin Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 http://metro.co.uk/2014/01/19/could-wang-jailins-175million-southampton-takeover-actually-happen-4268601/
Saints foreva Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I don't think there's anything in this but if it was to happen, I wouldn't be surprised if he's another Vincent Tan and rebrands the club - which I suspect a fair amount of people on this forum would accept if he was throwing silly sums of money at it.
Olallana Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Adam Blackmore having Corteses private number.......brilliant!!
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) I know you're heart broken that for the last three years you've been pompously claiming how the press deal in undubstantiated rumours and we do our business properly and all that rot....while all the time Cortese has been building a coterie of hacks, falling over themselves to spout of some Nicola pearls of wisdom. While you've been belittling the press on your hero's behalf, he's been all over them. So spare me the "really" routine. Blackmore could have easily rung Cortese. He's a frigging unemployed football administrator, not Kim Jung Un. He's probably sat by the phone right now waiting for his sweetheart Neil Ashton to ring him. Remember: real life. Not a computer game. You only need to listen to Adam and Dave on Solent to realise how out the loop they are. I very much doubt Blackmore has Cortese's home or mobile phone number for a start. Its not me that is out of touch with reality here ffs. You think a BBC radio Solent journalist has Cortese's home or mobile phone number and phoned him up today to get his view on the Mirror's story. For Christ's sake CB Fry! Edited 19 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God
stug76 Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I know you're heart broken that for the last three years you've been pompously claiming how the press deal in undubstantiated rumours and we do our business properly and all that rot....while all the time Cortese has been building a coterie of hacks, falling over themselves to spout of some Nicola pearls of wisdom. While you've been belittling the press on your hero's behalf, he's been all over them. So spare me the "really" routine. Blackmore could have easily rung Cortese. He's a frigging unemployed football administrator, not Kim Jung Un. He's probably sat by the phone right now waiting for his sweetheart Neil Ashton to ring him. Remember: real life. Not a computer game. :lol: MLG owns you! Now move on, I'm trying to dream about my seat in the new 80,000 Super Stadium and I want to know when it's going to happen and your clogging up the thread with your tears.
Batman Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 You only need to listen to Adam and Dave on Solent to realise how out the loop they are. I very much doubt Blackmore has Cortese's home or mobile phone number for a start. Its not me that is out of touch with reality here ffs. what are you saying? that this rumour is true?
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 what are you saying? that this rumour is true? I didn't say that at all, I have no idea if it is true or not. What I'm saying is I very much doubt Adam Blackmore does either. Any source he asked either won't know if its true or wouldn't be able to tell him its true even if they knew it was.
shurlock Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I don't think there's anything in this but if it was to happen, I wouldn't be surprised if he's another Vincent Tan and rebrands the club - which I suspect a fair amount of people on this forum would accept if he was throwing silly sums of money at it. Doubt it - Chinese companies are going global precisely in order to acquire the kudos and the other intangibles that come with a 'brand', not to scrap and reinvent it in their own image. Not saying we're a brand but English football is.
SaintBobby Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) I'd say it's unlikely that Blackmore would have telephone chats of the type suggested above with Cortese. It's not completely impossible that a journalist such as Ashton or Blackmore would have Cortese's number, but it's extremely unlikely that Cortese would field media calls in the way suggested. CEOs/Chairmen of high profile organisations typically employ media relations people to deal with these sort of things. Cortese himself also seems like a fairly controlled, almost private character. He almost certainly isn't spinning a line to a pack of journos who are hitting redial to get through to his home number. Edited 19 January, 2014 by SaintBobby
waggy Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I don't think there's anything in this but if it was to happen, I wouldn't be surprised if he's another Vincent Tan and rebrands the club - which I suspect a fair amount of people on this forum would accept if he was throwing silly sums of money at it. Will they want to make changes to the traditions of the club? No one knows. Interestingly though, when asked about investment in foreign businesses Wang said: ‘We will integrate ourselves in local culture, abide by local law and retain the management team of the local companies. In time we believe we will be well-received by local people.’
RonManager Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Blackmore was banned by NC for a while for something he wrote, a season or 3 back. Can't remember exactly what it was now.
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 You only need to listen to Adam and Dave on Solent to realise how out the loop they are. I very much doubt Blackmore has Cortese's home or mobile phone number for a start. Its not me that is out of touch with reality here ffs. You think a BBC radio Solent journalist has Cortese's home or mobile phone number and phoned him up today to get his view on the Mirror's story. For Christ's sake CB Fry! I think it's bizarre you think he wouldn't have it. Solent have been Cortese's pet media outlet locally - he's tickled the tummy of the Mail, the Sun and Sky Sports too of course - for the last five years. Do you think they have been writing letters to each other all this time? It's entirely possible that Nicola Cortese has no intention of coming back and is trying to stop stupid rumours about a comeback getting everyone's hopes up.
shurlock Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Blackmore was banned by NC for a while for something he wrote, a season or 3 back. Can't remember exactly what it was now. He got in trouble for suggesting the switch from 4-4-2 on getting promoted Prem was imposed by Cortese, not Adkins choice -and evidence of clueless meddling. The mongboard intelligentsia lapped it up. Forget that 4-4-2 is completely unsuited to the prem and teams that play it are largely on a hiding to nothing.
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) I think it's bizarre you think he wouldn't have it. Solent have been Cortese's pet media outlet locally - he's tickled the tummy of the Mail, the Sun and Sky Sports too of course - for the last five years. Do you think they have been writing letters to each other all this time? It's entirely possible that Nicola Cortese has no intention of coming back and is trying to stop stupid rumours about a comeback getting everyone's hopes up. I think when Cortese was still an employee at Saints; Sky, the BBC and the Daily Mail would be contacting Cortese through the club and his PA, not his home and mobile number. Cortese wakes up on a Sunday morning and you think a local radio presenter would give him a call to get his opinion on a newspaper story so he can Tweet it? Really? Come on ffs Is it not far more plausible that Blackmore either emailed/phoned/PM'd on Twitter one of the 5 or 6 media staff he knows at Saints? They then deny the Mirror takeover story because a) they aren't aware of the intentions of a Chinese company b) Liebherr doesn't inform the media department of takeovers and if she did she wouldn't want them blurting it out to the media Edited 19 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God
shurlock Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I think when Cortese was still an employee at Saints Sky, the BBC and the Daily Mail would be contacting Cortese through the club and his PA, not his home and mobile number. Cortese wakes up on a Sunday monday and you think a local radio presenter would give him a call to get his opinion on a newspaper story so he can Tweet it? Is it not far more plausible that Blackmore either emailed/phoned/PM'd on Twitter one of the 5 or 6 media staff he knows at Saints?
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I think when Cortese was still an employee at Saints; Sky, the BBC and the Daily Mail would be contacting Cortese through the club and his PA, not his home and mobile number. Cortese wakes up on a Sunday monday and you think a local radio presenter would give him a call to get his opinion on a newspaper story so he can Tweet it? Is it not far more plausible that Blackmore either emailed/phoned/PM'd on Twitter one of the 5 or 6 media staff he knows at Saints? Is that how it works in your computer game? Fair enough then.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Is it not far more plausible that Blackmore either emailed/phoned/PM'd on Twitter one of the 5 or 6 media staff he knows at Saints? Do you think a BBC journalist would solely rely the 'official' line from the club being his source for all Saints information?
dubai_phil Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I think when Cortese was still an employee at Saints; Sky, the BBC and the Daily Mail would be contacting Cortese through the club and his PA, not his home and mobile number. Cortese wakes up on a Sunday monday and you think a local radio presenter would give him a call to get his opinion on a newspaper story so he can Tweet it? Is it not far more plausible that Blackmore either emailed/phoned/PM'd on Twitter one of the 5 or 6 media staff he knows at Saints? Pick a conspiracy theory then it fits. MP knows what NC is up to so for Adam to tweet that all he had to do was "What's all this about Sunseeker/Jianlin?" to any of the MP's team. They roll around on the floor laughing - Tweet sent KL has advisors at the club working Adam asks one of them. They ROFL Adam calls up a mate in Poole and asks what he has heard from his mate who knows the taxi driver. He ROFL's He bumps into Sibley - He ROFL's In just about ANY scenario or conspiracy you can see how any reaction would give enough of a clue to enable a tweet to be sent. In fact the ONLY conspiracy that is so off the wall as to be hysterical is Big Adam giving NC a call on a Sunday morning
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Do you think a BBC journalist would solely rely the 'official' line from the club being his source for all Saints information? Computer says yes.
Matthew Le God Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 (edited) Is that how it works in your computer game? Fair enough then. He is a local radio presenter, any dealings he had with Cortese were rare (I think he only had one interview with him) and would be arranged through the club. His interactions with the club will be all through the media department. Blackmore did one interview with Cortese in 2010, that would most likely be arranged through his PA, not Cortese giving out his home and mobile number to Blackmore for him to ring him on Sunday mornings after he's left the club. Do you think a BBC journalist would solely rely the 'official' line from the club being his source for all Saints information? In the case of a matchday radio presenter for Radio Solent, yes I do. Have you listened to Radio Solent on matchdays? They know nothing other than want the media department want to tell them. Edited 19 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God
Durleyfos Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 I know that represenatives of the wanda group have been in meetings with top brass of some big football clubs on the continent.
shurlock Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 He is a local radio presenter, any dealings he had with Cortese were rare and would be done through the club. His interactions with the club will be all through the media department. Blackmore did one interview with Cortese in 2010, that would most likely be arranged through his PA, not Cortese giving out his home and mobile number to Blackmore. In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity. Go easy on the fella.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 In the case of a matchday radio presenter for Radio Solent, yes I do. So do you think a member of the media team told him a new Chief Exec could be appointed as soon as tomorrow? Why have they told him that and not published the information on the website for us all if it is the official line? And why would they know anyway? I think if the last few years have taught us anything it is not to dismiss or not believe anything you hear in the media. I'm neutral on the takeover story but I do strongly believe Adam Blackmore does not rely on his information from the clubs media team. What's more, I also believe they are the last to be told of many things that would go on at board level around subjects like takeovers (as they should be).
Saint Benali Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Let it go CB Fry, you got destroyed, do the rest of us a favour and just let it go.... In regards to this guy coming in, can't see it but I remember thinking the same when ML was linked with us. So who knows. If Cortese came back to the club with a guy with a £19Billion fortune I don't think many would complain. Except the anti Saints people of course.
nta786 Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Well, this thread turned weird. Yes, yes it has.
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 He is a local radio presenter, any dealings he had with Cortese were rare (I think he only had one interview with him) and would be arranged through the club. His interactions with the club will be all through the media department. Blackmore did one interview with Cortese in 2010, that would most likely be arranged through his PA, not Cortese giving out his home and mobile number to Blackmore for him to ring him on Sunday mornings after he's left the club. In the case of a matchday radio presenter for Radio Solent, yes I do. Have you listened to Radio Solent on matchdays? They know nothing other than want the media department want to tell them. He's the sports editor. The funny thing if we were talking, say, Harry Redknapp, none of you divs for a minute would question the idea that he would have the phone numbers of a key journalist or two. Bless your little hearts you think your Nicky is everso different.
DuncanRG Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Blackmore could have any number of sources. He will not be relying on the word of the press office. I can't find anything about it on the PA sports wire.
Griffo Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 Katharina has checked into a hotel in Winchester for 4 nights with 4 other people and they have asked for a 'closed off' room. Oh and she smokes.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 19 January, 2014 Posted 19 January, 2014 This thread has rapidly gone south...as expected... How long before Barry Beardall gets a mention? oops...
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