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Post Match Reaction: Sunderland 2-2 SAINTS


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MotM vs Sunderland (Away 2013/14)  

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  1. 1. MotM vs Sunderland (Away 2013/14)

    • Boruc
      1
    • Shaw
      4
    • Chambers
      2
    • Lovren
      10
    • Fonte
      2
    • Schneiderlin
      5
    • Cork
      213
    • Davis, S
      3
    • Lallana
      5
    • Rodriguez
      17
    • Lambert
      2
    • Ramirez
      2
    • Ward-Prowse
      0
    • Yoshida
      2


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Smirking saint re your photo that's a typical inversion injury . Foot buckled . Ligament damage can take months to heal . Tib and fib may not be broken but ligaments take ages to heal . His foot will be black and blue later tonight

 

Happened to me about 6 weeks ago, playing again tentatively now but still worried about tackling with it properly. I suppose it depends how much damage there is.

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As many of us have been saying for ages, we need a striker who puts chances away - JRod isn't the man, Lambert seems to have lost it and who knows about Dani. It's not just the number of chances we create its the quality of them, we should have been 4 up before they got their first. JRod is often far too casual when he needs to just bury it. Oue possession and build up play deserves so many more goals.

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Where the fudge was Shaw for their equaliser, I thought Danny Fox was on the pitch. And don't start me on Boruc. Gazza could have saved that, one handed. Utter **** for that goal.

But far more important than the result is the condition of Gaston and Lovren, shame we don't have to play Sunderland again as Wes Brown needs snapping for that challenge. *****.

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Ref was shocking today. Even if we won id have said that. Ramirez was fouled at least twice prior to his injury tackle and the ref did nothing. And that final tackle was brutal. He got the ball after going through the player. In my view the ref bottled a lot of decisions today. The standard of refs in the PL is getting worse and worse.

The linesman however seem to be getting better.

When you think of the penalties and free kicks that are given for "slight contact" that decision was beyond belief. As you say the tackle was brutal and a last ditch lunge from a useless centre back who should have been sent off (a) for the foul (b) being the last man.
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We needed cheering up. It's tasteless but latest @dubaisaints tweet has gone "viral".

Selfie of some of the gang with an upset KL

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I don't think much of mine (the one with the ear wax that is, not the other geezer!)
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If that had been a boxing match it would have been stopped at half time. In the second half even playing at a slower tempo, we had chances to put the game to bed. I thought that Boruc should have done better with both goals and that Jack Cork was far and away the best player on the pitch. The player who is really disappointing though is Rickie Lambert, I am a very big fan of his, but I thought that today he was poor and ineffective, like he has been in most games, since his England debut.

As for the result absolutely gutted, their first goal straight after our second, really knocked us back more than it should have done, considering how well we were playing at the time.

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Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino:

 

"The ugliest side of the game was the injuries. We hope they are okay, both are heading to hospital.

 

"In this game nothing is over until it is over. We were unlucky. In the first half we played fantastically well and deserved a third or a fourth. With the second half and the support of their fans they pushed ahead and got the equaliser. I think we deserved to win the game

 

"The players have had a really difficult week, I want to congratulate them in light of what has happened this week. They put in an amazing effort.

 

"In football there are no guarantees, you depend on the results it will be a decision from the people above to decide whether I should be here. It is not me who decides when we meet, it should be the chairwoman who decides. We have not had a chance to speak about next season so I don't know (about his future) yet."

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The weakness of our squad will now be further exposed. Even before the injuries today we had two mediocre centre backs on the bench which just goes to show the lack of options in the squad...GUly and Gaston as 'attacking ' options but not exactly game changing strikers....

We will now have the daunting prospect of Yoshida or worse still Jos playing again which surely cannot be allowed to happen?

Up from Ricky is struggling which leaves the also struggling expensive looking Osvaldo to come in....

In this league we are short of cover in key areas and it appears little or nothing is being done about it....

Our ex chairman's answer to it all was evidently to sell Ricky ???

On the squad front we have had obvious weeknesses for the whole season and yet there has been no urgency to address this?

We cannot rise higher in this league without some strengthening....

On the other hand if we are happy where we are or a bit below where are currently then fine.....

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S-Clarke I'm assuming some journo asked Mp about next season to give an answer as follows .

 

"In football there are no guarantees, you depend on the results it will be a decision from the people above to decide whether I should be here. It is not me who decides when we meet, it should be the chairwoman who decides. We have not had a chance to speak about next season so I don't know (about his future) yet."

I just wish the journos would just **** off . They are the scum of the earth

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Some of you lot are acting like spoilt brats. We have no divine right to go to places like this and roll them over.

 

The quality in our play is obvious, and we are only a player or two short. Yes we should have won, but it was a good point gained.

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Southampton manager Mauricio Pochettino:

 

 

"In football there are no guarantees, you depend on the results it will be a decision from the people above to decide whether I should be here. It is not me who decides when we meet, it should be the chairwoman who decides. We have not had a chance to speak about next season so I don't know (about his future) yet."

I wonder what context the question was that was put to MP re this answer but it doesnt sound to promising.
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Some of you lot are acting like spoilt brats. We have no divine right to go to places like this and roll them over.

 

The quality in our play is obvious, and we are only a player or two short. Yes we should have won, but it was a good point gained.

 

we would called liverpool fans arrogant if they thought they should come to SMS and roll us over

it was a hell of a fight out there. we should know, we have been involved in some over the last 20 years or so

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I have a hunch we might need to rethink how we manage energy over 90 minutes. There have been a lot of games this season where we come out of the gates steaming with energy... close down relentlessly... intimidate and absolutely dominate for the first half of the game. But second half it's impossible to maintain that level of intensity, and teams gradually come back at us. I think we might be just slightly overdoing the initial all-out effort. Need to keep something in the tank. Anyone agree?

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I would like us to be able to up the tempo more often when we attack. When Sunderland broke you knew they were gonna get a shot on goal where is was a case of can we walk it in. Woefull defending as well. Lucky draw in the end, 3 points lost
by your description Sunderland played a more long ball/ direct game, do we wish to revert back to type of football. IMO we still in the very early days of the clubs underpinning of playing a certain way by keeping the ball. In time the good work and squad improvement will mean these type of games will become 3 points instead of 1 point.
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Could it be certain journos are fans and agents of certain clubs trying to destabilise our team asking the same boring questions to MP and getting to respond as follows

 

"In football there are no guarantees, you depend on the results it will be a decision from the people above to decide whether I should be here. It is not me who decides when we meet, it should be the chairwoman who decides. We have not had a chance to speak about next season so I don't know (about his future) yet."

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on a positive note

 

 

wanyama back in full training

 

And, although terrible for Ramirez as he was starting to play well, that could have been Lallana on the end of that challenge. Need Wanyama back, but without Lovren we will still be weak at the back.

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https://audioboo.fm/boos/1861482-saintsfc-manager-mauricio-pochettino-speaks-to-bigadamsport-after-the-2-2-draw-at-sunderland

 

MP's reaction

 

Not pleased with the point, we were the better team

Worried about Gaston and Lovren, Injuries look bad but need to wait for assessment.

Congratulate the players, put in hard shift despite hard week

Tired after emotional week, not had much sleep.

Clear KL will decide when they will next meet, it is not up to him to decide when they meet.

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by your description Sunderland played a more long ball/ direct game, do we wish to revert back to type of football. IMO we still in the very early days of the clubs underpinning of playing a certain way by keeping the ball. In time the good work and squad improvement will mean these type of games will become 3 points instead of 1 point.

 

I'm not suggesting Sunderland played long ball, i am saying they had more tempo on the break and with some bad defending from Shaw they made the most of there opportunities. I would like to see a direct striker with pace, a replacement for Puncheon who offered this.

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Had this one down for a draw but after being 2 goals up and totally dominating feels like a loss. Pity they scored so soon after our 2nd or it could have been a big win to us, but that goal got them and the supporters going. It's promising that we played so well for large parts of the match but we need to get a convert more chances and possession into goals.

Obviously the most worrying thing is the injury to Lovren hope it's not as bad as it looked, but you don't give someone gas and air if it's only a little painful! I don't thinik that my blood pressure can take it if we have weeks or months of the season with Hooveld playing, Fonte paired with Yoshida were OK towards the end of last season but losing Lovren will be a big step backwards, can Wanyama play centre back?

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I have a hunch we might need to rethink how we manage energy over 90 minutes. There have been a lot of games this season where we come out of the gates steaming with energy... close down relentlessly... intimidate and absolutely dominate for the first half of the game. But second half it's impossible to maintain that level of intensity, and teams gradually come back at us. I think we might be just slightly overdoing the initial all-out effort. Need to keep something in the tank. Anyone agree?

 

 

Yes but only marginally. The two young boys looked knackered towards 70 minutes and were less efficient. JRod runs his legs off every game and you can't expect him to be as useful after 90 minutes as he is at the start. Above all we need to sort out the problem with Lambert whatever that may be, played with 10 men again today. Pity Gaston got injured so soon, he was buzzing. Last of all I hope the FA look at Brown's assasination attempt and give him 5 or 6 games, he's just a thug, a throwback to another age.

Pleased enough with the result.

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Had this one down for a draw but after being 2 goals up and totally dominating feels like a loss. Pity they scored so soon after our 2nd or it could have been a big win to us, but that goal got them and the supporters going. It's promising that we played so well for large parts of the match but we need to get a convert more chances and possession into goals.

Obviously the most worrying thing is the injury to Lovren hope it's not as bad as it looked, but you don't give someone gas and air if it's only a little painful! I don't thinik that my blood pressure can take it if we have weeks or months of the season with Hooveld playing, Fonte paired with Yoshida were OK towards the end of last season but losing Lovren will be a big step backwards, can Wanyama play centre back?

 

 

Wanyama can indeed play centre back, did often enough for Celtic but how he'd do at it in the rarefied atmosphere of the PL who knows.

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I have a hunch we might need to rethink how we manage energy over 90 minutes. There have been a lot of games this season where we come out of the gates steaming with energy... close down relentlessly... intimidate and absolutely dominate for the first half of the game. But second half it's impossible to maintain that level of intensity, and teams gradually come back at us. I think we might be just slightly overdoing the initial all-out effort. Need to keep something in the tank. Anyone agree?

 

Hmm, tricky one. I can see the logic there insofar as there are games where we start to blow in the closing stages but I wonder if that might be down to the size of the squad meaning our key players don't have the chance to rest. Also the style needs the whole team to be able to do the running - I'm feeling that that's becoming a lot to ask of an ageing Ricky (sad though I am to say it)

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yeah, helped us win the JPT

 

I´m fine with players going out on loan to lower leagues, that is good for players and lower league clubs where the clubs dont have the same amount of money to have players in the books. It´s pathetic to allow it at highest level. Just an opinion of mine..

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I´m fine with players going out on loan to lower leagues, that is good for players and lower league clubs where the clubs dont have the same amount of money to have players in the books. It´s pathetic to allow it at highest level. Just an opinion of mine..

 

Mine too!

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