Greenridge Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Thought you were putting me on ignore you pillock? Read my second post on the subject where I clarified the point rather than spouting your usual obsessive nonsense. How very mature of you Richard. Never said I was putting you on ignore that was your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 How very mature of you Richard. Never said I was putting you on ignore that was your idea. Ha ha ha, when all else fails drop in the first name, you've been doing your homework sunshine, like I said, obsessive. Bit odd behaviour isn't it. The stalking continues. If only you could show the same maturity and comment on my posts on the subject on hand rather than fantasising about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 (edited) It certainly does feel as if he'll be off in the summer. A great pity as things had been looking good up to NC spitting his dummy out. Edited 2 March, 2014 by View From The Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Ha ha ha, when all else fails drop in the first name, you've been doing your homework sunshine, like I said, obsessive. Bit odd behaviour isn't it. The stalking continues. If only you could show the same maturity and comment on my posts on the subject on hand rather than fantasising about me. As you well know it was widely posted on here, I didn't do any 'homework' just observation. Surely it's better to call someone by their name rather than resort to childish name calling? Let's be clear I actually find some of what you post relevant, interesting and quite often accurate. It's a shame you post so much other crud that makes finding your decent posts such a challenge. Enjoy your Sunday. As for the topic, as I've said before I really hope he stays but I think he'll be off in the summer unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Either way (and I hope he stays, better the devil you know and all that) it needs sorting quickly for when the market opens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 What do we make of this then? Load of ******** because it is 'bad' news? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettinos-southampton-future-still-3196822? Who sais it's bad news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Ha ha ha, when all else fails drop in the first name, you've been doing your homework sunshine, like I said, obsessive. Bit odd behaviour isn't it. The stalking continues. If only you could show the same maturity and comment on my posts on the subject on hand rather than fantasising about me. Richard rather than **** though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 I don't think he's managed to get the best of Ramirez - he's not really a MP type of player. Many managers have struggled with Puncheon not just MP, though it's still uncertain whether MP pulled the trigger too quickly or Punch genuinely wanted to leave for family reasons. Lambert is in the twilight of his career, though MP's system hasn't helped. Yoshida and Clyne have stalled under MP, though that may be due to MP's ability to develop players in the same position e.g. Fonte and Chambers, meaning that they've featured less. Exactly, so some players have thrived under him, others have gone backwards, neither should be considered in isolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 So, in the summer we could be managerless, with an owner/chairwoman who knows nothing about football and a hockey coach running the gaff. Sounds vaguely familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Offer him a longer deal now. If he's not interested get a new manager at the end of the season. Would really like him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 It's bit of a mess. Assuming MP leaves, Les Reed would be involved but given the proximity of the working relationship, so would the chief exec. If and when we decide to hire one.... One of the stumbling blocks that really needs addressing, as of a month ago really. Unfortunately we seem to want to do this bit by bit, which means other things around it fall off in the process. The big unknown is the knock on effect on the players: how many might be more inclined to leave if MP leaves. It's blindingly obvious that they're fond of him and credit him for bringing their games on. Yes, big worry. Ideally IF we could make the change , if we have to, asap, it would at least give someone chance to put their mark on things, and work with the current squad. For all those saying they are closely attached to MP, the same was said regarding Adkins don't forget. Offer him a longer deal now. If he's not interested get a new manager at the end of the season. Would really like him to stay. That deal will only be offered when the CEO etc are in place. If he's not interested then try bringing in the right man, subject to availability this season ( though easier said than done perhaps). Like you, I hope MP stays, to continue what he appears to have started, but only if he's motivated enough to want to be here. At the moment it seems otherwise. Having said that about continuing the progress, leagues are littered with managers who once showed great promise, whose to say MP won't be one of them ? For all the hype, his achievements in terms of trophies is nil, and as his detractors on here point out, his win ratio is not spectacular. Wonder if his master, NC, would be getting an itchy finger on the trigger after four wins in 18 ? Is this really well enough into the 'next level' that he desired ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 If he does go I would like us to go and get Uwe Rosler, good manager imo Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 If he does go I would like us to go and get Uwe Rosler, good manager imo Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk A german, yes that will fit in with the current tendancy at the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Well I'm far from convinced about this Javi gracia chap. Never stays anywhere for long, in 7 jobs only lasted more than a year once and been fired a few times. Hardly seems like a stable, long term appointment. No track record at all from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 A disaster if he goes IMO . I expect us to be in the relegation mix this time next season. If MP leaves I can see a lot of the brighter players following. We have have been fortunate that NC was shrewd in getting managers, expecting the next person to be so is hoping for too much. Oh well it was good while it lasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 A disaster if he goes IMO . I expect us to be in the relegation mix this time next season. If MP leaves I can see a lot of the brighter players following. We have have been fortunate that NC was shrewd in getting managers, expecting the next person to be so is hoping for too much. Oh well it was good while it lasted Players/managers leave it's the nature of football and in general if they leave it's because they want to no point having a manager or players who would rather be somewhere else. More important is how the club deals with the situation. In the past we would try and replace with cheap options if instead we invest the, no doubt large amount of, money from player sales back into the team and work hard to get a good replacement manager there is no reason why MP leaving or some of our players leaving would have to be a disaster. We are not crippled with debts or have share holders who expect a return on their cash like we were last time we were in the PL so for example if we get the reported 30 million for Luke Shaw we could quite easily get 2-3 good players in his place we lose a great player but the team might actually be stronger for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 What do we make of this then? Load of ******** because it is 'bad' news? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mauricio-pochettinos-southampton-future-still-3196822? Are The Mirror a reliable source for anything? http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-transfer-news-rafa-silva-3198252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 We will be scouting out potential replacements. I would be livid if we weren't. The story does point out that these are contingency plans and doesn't suggest that Pochettino will leave, only that he might and that we're preparing in case he does. Who could argue with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 We will be scouting out potential replacements. I would be livid if we weren't. The story does point out that these are contingency plans and doesn't suggest that Pochettino will leave, only that he might and that we're preparing in case he does. Who could argue with that? Yeah exactly, point being we're in for months of speculation on everything, nothing 'ITK' really being heard at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Worth noting that Poch was at the U18 match yesterday. Not exactly the actions of a man braced for an exit in the summer. He needs to be offered a contract before he demonstrates his commitment to the club. He can't stand accused of not wanting to be at the club if he has not had the chance to do so. If he were stalling on an offer then I'd be worried, but he is not, and has already said he is relaxed about the situation and planning for next year. Most of this doomsday hysterics on this thread is just based on tabloid fluff - most notably articles derived from newspapers with known connections to our dearly departed Don. A lot of the paper talk re: KL takeover when Cortese left has proven to be nonsense, so let's just sit tight and see what the summer brings. I'm sure KL realises the importance of keeping hold of Poch, and that sorting his contract out will be a priority come end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Worth noting that Poch was at the U18 match yesterday. Not exactly the actions of a man braced for an exit in the summer. He needs to be offered a contract before he demonstrates his commitment to the club. He can't stand accused of not wanting to be at the club if he has not had the chance to do so. If he were stalling on an offer then I'd be worried, but he is not, and has already said he is relaxed about the situation and planning for next year. Most of this doomsday hysterics on this thread is just based on tabloid fluff - most notably articles derived from newspapers with known connections to our dearly departed Don. A lot of the paper talk re: KL takeover when Cortese left has proven to be nonsense, so let's just sit tight and see what the summer brings. I'm sure KL realises the importance of keeping hold of Poch, and that sorting his contract out will be a priority come end of the season. Well said, a sensible view of actual circumstances and not hearsay and supposed "body language" Makes me laugh all this "body language" nonsense as its no more just opinion with very little proof or fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 When a journo writes something about us I usually check his previous stories. Now back in Nov he wrote an article implying that Luke was going to Spurs in the January transfer window. Did that happen ? And of course he wrote this back in April about Cheats FC. (WARNING : Sick bags at the ready) If there really is no such thing as society, then somebody forgot to tell the Portsmouth Supporters Trust, writes Dave Kidd ........Their long struggle to save Portsmouth FC from liquidation, to gain a controlling interest and safeguard the future of Fratton Park has been a mighty example of the strength of collective ........A few years ago they were welcoming AC Milan to Fratton Park in the Europa League. Now they have, at least, achieved the closest thing English football has seen to Barcelona’s famed fan ownership model....They will begin next season in the depths of League Two but with optimism for the future and having proved that football supporters, far from being the dregs of society, can in fact be its champions....Instead, they should have campaigned for a minute’s applause to salute the achievements of the Portsmouth Supporters Trust http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/dave-kidd-column-peoples-portsmouth-1831500#ixzz2uoXWFVEl I think we can see who he supports on the South Coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 Ha ha ha, when all else fails drop in the first name, you've been doing your homework sunshine, like I said, obsessive. Bit odd behaviour isn't it. The stalking continues. If only you could show the same maturity and comment on my posts on the subject on hand rather than fantasising about me. Here we go again, same old fecking trolls, with same old agenda! So so so boring - Mods grow a pair or see this site wither and die! I very barely come on here these days, so not bothered either way - what a shame, as I love to hear genuine Saints fan's views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 MP going would be massively disappointing for the club. If it does happen, people would soon realise that but it's amusing for now seeing the the new band wagon jumpers who have suddenly taken a great interest in MP's body language and question whether he is better than Adkins. The guy works his ******** off, at the training ground 12 hours a day, takes great interest the youth teams and has built a real affinity with the players. Steered us to safety last season and made us a solid mid table side this season. If you wouldn't be bothered about him leaving, there is something wrong with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 I hope he stays. I worry about important players who will seek to leave if he goes and potentially going into a new season with a new Manager, important players leaving, and several new ones arriving isn't a recipe for success. He's done a great job and most of all the way he has brought several players on in their development and increased their value massively is incredibly important for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 MP going would be massively disappointing for the club. If it does happen, people would soon realise that but it's amusing for now seeing the the new band wagon jumpers who have suddenly taken a great interest in MP's body language and question whether he is better than Adkins. The guy works his ******** off, at the training ground 12 hours a day, takes great interest the youth teams and has built a real affinity with the players. Steered us to safety last season and made us a solid mid table side this season. If you wouldn't be bothered about him leaving, there is something wrong with you. I want him to stay but as the games slip by I get the impression he is not happy. Can't put my finger on it just get the impression he is going through the motions. I hope I am wrong and I hope whoever is running the club gets their finger out pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 I expect getting d!cked 3-0 by Liverpool might explain the impression of him not being happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 I want him to stay but as the games slip by I get the impression he is not happy. Can't put my finger on it just get the impression he is going through the motions. I hope I am wrong and I hope whoever is running the club gets their finger out pretty soon. You would say that regardless You were saying something was not right with Adkins as we were on the march to promotion to the NPC In fact, is there anything you are not suspicious with about the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 You would say that regardless You were saying something was not right with Adkins as we were on the march to promotion to the NPC In fact, is there anything you are not suspicious with about the club To the NPC or from it ? If from it, then his suspicions were perhaps well founded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 To the NPC or from it ? If from it, then his suspicions were perhaps well founded. To the. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 2 March, 2014 Share Posted 2 March, 2014 I don't think that any negotiations about anything are likely to happen until we have a permanent chief exec. That is bound to leave the club feeling rudderless and affect morale. That could explain a feeling of malaise. That said, if our strikers relearn how to strike everything will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Worth noting that Poch was at the U18 match yesterday. Not exactly the actions of a man braced for an exit in the summer. Checking out which players to take with him to his next club? Only joking. Hope he stays and is offered a contract sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 So, in the summer we could be managerless, with an owner/chairwoman who knows nothing about football and a hockey coach running the gaff. Sounds vaguely familiar? Not really, we have yet to turn down a successful ex England manager for a manager of a small provincial club in Leaguw 1/2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 Not really, we have yet to turn down a successful ex England manager for a manager of a small provincial club in Leaguw 1/2. I'm sure that could be arranged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Red Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 (edited) I want him to stay but as the games slip by I get the impression he is not happy. Can't put my finger on it just get the impression he is going through the motions. I hope I am wrong and I hope whoever is running the club gets their finger out pretty soon. It may be that Poch is slowly coming to the conclusion that the way he sets his team out has been rumbled. EG. Fat Sam puts balls behind the full backs with ease, Liverpool put two strikers up against our isolated centre backs. In La Liga there are few teams with enough quality to break down such a high pressing system but the Premier is 'dog eat dog' and he needs to sort out impact substitutes as alternative options. I think his lack of success with the 'Marcelo Bielsa' system is currently putting doubts in his mind, hence his appearance of not looking happy. If he can sort out the squad to suit in the summer I think he will be back on the case, rather than going through the motions of seeing out the season. Edited 3 March, 2014 by Kingsland Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 It may be that Poch is slowly coming to the conclusion that the way he sets his team out has been rumbled. EG. Fat Sam puts balls behind the full backs with ease, Liverpool put two strikers up against our isolated centre backs. In La Liga there are few teams with enough quality to break down such a high pressing system but the Premier is 'dog eat dog' and he needs to sort out impact substitutes as alternative options. I think his lack of success with the 'Marcelo Bielsa' system is currently putting doubts in his mind options, hence his appearance of not looking happy. If he can sort out the squad to suit in the summer I think he will be back on the case, rather than going through the motions of seeing out the season. Don't agree at all - don't think Liverpool created any more chances against us than they have against other sides - was at the Emirates for the cup game and they created many more that day. In both games, we had the chances but simply didnt take them. If anything has frustrated MP, it's that we've not killed teams off, the sense of inevitability that our wastefulness will be punished as well as a lack of options to change things when we have to chase a game. There maybe some mental fatigue associated with our pressing game and the fact that things haven't gone our way. But apart from the Chelsea game, our system hasn't been worked out by any stretch of the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 IMO looking at his body language and attitude since Cortese left it looks like he is going in the summer. Would rather he just left if he didn't want to be here. Unfortunately, despite his success he never had a great relationship with the fans, possibly due to the translator stuff which meant there has always been a distance there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 March, 2014 Share Posted 3 March, 2014 IMO looking at his body language and attitude since Cortese left it looks like he is going in the summer. Would rather he just left if he didn't want to be here. Unfortunately, despite his success he never had a great relationship with the fans, possibly due to the translator stuff which meant there has always been a distance there. Don't necessarily think its a language problem - even simple recognition of the fans, easy opportunities when his name is sung etc, would go a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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