Matthew Le God Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 (edited) Ralf Krueger's interview on Canadian radio suggests Liebherr has long term plans for the club. Tell us what is said Why is this not being told to radio solent? From 30.30 of this... And here he is at the Yeovil game... Edited 31 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 I'm on my phone Please write out what he said And why are we not being told this on the local radio/media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 I've got nothing other than making a poor pun of Kraken Rum You're Havana laugh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Being kept yet again in the dark will always lead to rumour. That letter said everything yet nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 I'm on my phone Please write out what he said I'm not transcribing five minutes of interview, listen to it later. And why are we not being told this on the local radio/media? Because they are rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 I'm not transcribing five minutes of interview, listen to it later. Because they are rubbish. Give us a few quotes then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 From 30.30 of this... And here he is at the Yeovil game... Does he take his lucky black cat to all the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 31 January, 2014 I'm on my phone Please write out what he said And why are we not being told this on the local radio/media? Says very little, working on olympics stuff will join Saints board, looking forward to it bla bla bla Phone hasnt been ringing so and no offers for ice hockey / NFL so Saints offer option Doesnt mention anything longterm, short term or other Basically says very little other than he will join board Not sure why MLG would draw this out as his biggest evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Says very little, working on olympics stuff will join Saints board, looking forward to it bla bla bla Phone hasnt been ringing so and no offers for ice hockey / NFL so Saints offer option Doesnt mention anything longterm, short term or other Basically says very little other than he will join board Not sure why MLG would draw this out as his biggest evidence? Really? Have you never read his posts before? The poor lad can find his own "evidence" in even the most flippant of throw away comments. We're getting a 50K stadium, don't you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 (edited) Give us a few quotes then The jist of my point is Liebherr has persuaded Krueger to agree to come to us, why would she bother if she intended to sell the club? Krueger sounds genuinely excited by the challenge of helping Saints and working with Liebherr. We've had the "she's selling the club" rumours since her father died 2010. Its now 2014 and it hasn't happened! Edited 31 January, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 The jist of my point is Liebherr has persuaded Kruegerto agree to come to us, why would she bother if she intended to sell the club? Krueger sounds genuinely excited by the challenge of helping Saints and working with Liebherr. So, naff all then Could be many reasons why he came. To help a sale or money or a way in to the prem??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 So, naff all then Could be many reasons why he came. To help a sale or money or a way in to the prem??? Kruger is so "genuinely excited" to get involved with Saints that he's buggering off to the Winter Olympics first, and (by his own admission) only taking this job as he had no other offers as a head coach from ice hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 So, naff all then Could be many reasons why he came. To help a sale or money or a way in to the prem??? Bankers and solicitors help sell clubs, not professional sports people. He is talking about how he can improve us, not how to sell us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Kruger is so "genuinely excited" to get involved with Saints that he's buggering off to the Winter Olympics first, and (by his own admission) only taking this job as he had no other offers as a head coach from ice hockey. Lucky us Sound like another ken delieu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Kruger is so "genuinely excited" to get involved with Saints that he's buggering off to the Winter Olympics first, and (by his own admission) only taking this job as he had no other offers as a head coach from ice hockey. So what? He has a prior arrangement to be in Russia until the end of February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Bankers and solicitors help sell club's, not professional sports people. He is talking about how he can improve us, not how to sell us. Wha did he say about improving us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 31 January, 2014 So, naff all then Could be many reasons why he came. To help a sale or money or a way in to the prem??? He mentioned "no ice hockey interest or calls and nothing from NFL" hes a long term friend so sounds like helping a friend to me... The guy is out of work and nobody is asking his to get involved in his sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 So, naff all then Could be many reasons why he came. To help a sale or money or a way in to the prem??? I'm not sure whether or not we are for sale, or not. No idea, so not going to speculate. I agree the statements have been vague, and open to interpretation. Personally don't thing there is much evidence either way. Genuine question to people, if the same players left in Jan, under the same circumstances they did but Cortese hadn't gone (yes I agree this may not/probably wouldn't have happened) would it be seen as a sign the club is for sale? I wouldn't see it that way. Apart from Osvaldo, they are players we expected to leave the club for a while. And whilst unfortunate, it's understandable why he has gone. We may very well be up for sale, but I don't think the players that have left are a sign of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Lowering the debt to sell, have the minimum amount of players required to retain Premiership status and then sell as a Premiership club, simple but effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 (edited) Give us a few quotes then Transcript: Interviewer: Before I let you go I understand that there's another opportunity that's on the horizon for you in the sport of football, European football, we call it soccer....What's going on with Southampton? What can you tell us? What are you going to be doing with this club? Krueger: They've been approaching me for a while now in a leadership function. The owner is a lady who inherited the team from her father - he died a few years ago and she's living in Switzerland - somebody I've known a while and she's been trying to get me to go on the board of directors of the British premier league team. It's the number one sports league in the world and we are in 9th place at the moment. I will focus 100% on the olympic games but after the olympic games I will be going to Southampton to take on my role on the board and my final job description or where I'm exactly going to be involved is not clear - she wants me to come and work on leadership. We've got 700 employees involved in the organisation at different levels and we have one of the greatest football academies in the world and it's one of the great English premier league teams because it tries to grow from within. Our players...over half of them are English and the academy produces these players whereas most of the English premier league teams are built out of foreigners - we do have foreigners on the team but overall it'll be exciting. I always look for growth, I always look for challenges and it might sound a little bit strange for me to be involved but its all about sports. My job won't be football specific - I will be more on a higher level, working together with the owner, very close on the board which will have 4 people on it and I look forward to the challenge after the olympics. Interviewer: So you're not going to be playing midfielder or striker or anything like that? Krueger: (laughs) No, no, no.... I was with the coach the last few days and I said: "You know what? I've been coaching 25 years and especially my most recent experience I know exactly what you need for support and I know exactly what you don't need for support" and we had a chuckle about it... and he's from Argentina, a really strong character, and whether the owner or whether the coach are really on the same wavelength...and I just spent 3 days there and finally made the decision today to step into that world so its an adventure that I'm looking forward to. Trousers: That's about it. Edited 31 January, 2014 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Lowering the debt to sell, have the minimum amount of players required to retain Premiership status and then sell as a Premiership club, simple but effective. This has no effect on the purchase price when the seller themselves is solvent, the purchase price will be calculated on the basis that there's no debt and then any debt remaining in the club will just reduce the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Jim Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Being kept yet again in the dark will always lead to rumour. That letter said everything yet nothing. Thats my point, it didn't say or allude that we are or are not for sale so for people to draw definitive cinclusions based on it is ridiculous. It can be taken that we will be for sale as much as it can be taken that we are not. We'll have to wait until the end of the season before we really have any clue as to what direction Kat wants to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 31 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Transcript: Interviewer: Before I let you go I understand that there's another opportunity that's on the horizon for you in the sport of football, European football, we call it soccer....What's going on with Southampton? What can you tell us? What are you going to be doing with this club? Krueger: They've been approaching me for a while now in a leadership function. The owner is a lady who inherited the team from her father - he died a few years ago and she's living in Switzerland - somebody I've known a while and she's been trying to get me to go on the board of directors of the British premier league team. It's the number one sports league in the world and we are in 9th place at the moment. I will focus 100% on the olympic games but after the olympic games I will be going to Southampton to take on my role on the board and my final job description or where I'm exactly going to be involved is not clear - she wants me to come and work on leadership. We've got 700 employees involved in the organisation at different levels and we have one of the greatest football academies in the world and it's one of the great English premier league teams because it tries to grow from within. Our players...over half of them are English and the academy produces these players whereas most of the English premier league teams are built out of foreigners - we do have foreigners on the team but overall it'll be exciting. I always look for growth, I always look for challenges and it might sound a little bit strange for me to be involved but its all about sports. My job won't be football specific - I will be more on a higher level, working together with the owner, very close on the board which will have 4 people on it and I look forward to the challenge after the olympics. Interviewer: So you're not going to be playing midfielder or striker or anything like that? Krueger: (laughs) No, no, no.... I was with the coach the last few days and I said: "You know what? I've been coaching 25 years and especially my most recent experience I know exactly what you need for support and I know exactly what you don't need for support" and we had a chuckle about it... and he's from Argentina, a really strong character, and whether the owner or whether the coach are really on the same wavelength...and I just spent 3 days there and finally made the decision today to step into that world so its an adventure that I'm looking forward to. Trousers: That's about it. Good effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 31 January, 2014 Share Posted 31 January, 2014 Squad is not the business so that can not be taken into account. Approx £100-25 Million. Of course it does. If you can buy a squad and sell a player for £12m the next day then it is worth more than the same club who doesn't have that player. Are you talking about some specific accounting basis for financial statement preparation or tax purposes? Because I can assure you when it comes to determining the economic value of a football club, which is what a sale price will be based on, they very much will be taken into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 1 February, 2014 Share Posted 1 February, 2014 £80 million does look too low! £100m would be my guess Think thats what Fernandes paid for QPR QPR and Fulham are much smaller clubs than us! We are now worth 150m plus don't kid your self that we are worth less that Fulham ! Our nearest rival in the prem is about 75 miles away !!! No other premiership club can boast such a distance to their competitors except maybe Norwich ......... We have a great team and fan base plus infrastructure we are worth more than Fulham..... By the way QPR must show a loss of 100m and their crappy ground can't be worth much so who would want them ? Don't think you can count the building value on the ground as an assett either as plainly without a pitch you have nowhere to play!!!!!!!!! The tv income alone now is £95m plus ???? And someone values us at £80m - do me a favour!!!!!!!!!!!! The potential profit is huge. Larger companies are now sold also on potential too . Soooo wake up , this business is worth a lot of money..... Business sense tells us now is the time to cash in - however to see the potential reach it's conclusion might be attractive to the owner so we never know..,,,,,… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 1 February, 2014 Share Posted 1 February, 2014 Don't think you can count the building value on the ground as an assett either as plainly without a pitch you have nowhere to play!!!!!!!!! Erm, that's not how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 February, 2014 Share Posted 1 February, 2014 Can't be bothered to read all the other stuff, so this may have been said already. Chap I know with connections at the club told me this Krueger guy has been around since last year and the idea was that he would work alongside Cortese, but the latter did not like that and hence the resignation. The idea was that this guy was brought in to keep an eye on the corporate running of the club on behalf of KL - issues have already been uncovered. Whether or not this was intended to be a prelude for the club being sold is unclear - gut instinct says it does have the feel of a trimming operation prior to sale - however it was Cortese keeping those players like Sharp here as he would not loan/sell unless on his terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 1 February, 2014 Share Posted 1 February, 2014 Hilarious that it has been suggested that player value does not impact on the value of the club. That is completely incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 1 February, 2014 Share Posted 1 February, 2014 Erm, that's not how it works. Quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 1 February, 2014 Share Posted 1 February, 2014 however it was Cortese keeping those players like Sharp here as he would not loan/sell unless on his terms. Yup, hence the major shifting in recent days... far more flexible with other clubs and what they want to pay now, as we are with players who want to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 1 February, 2014 Share Posted 1 February, 2014 Hilarious that it has been suggested that player value does not impact on the value of the club. That is completely incorrect. Err no its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 February, 2014 Share Posted 1 February, 2014 surely his arrival means that KL is more committed to the clubs upward curve not a man in a suit trying to uplift the clubs value. As for the trimming of the squad, were the players that have gone part of the backbone of the team,or even part of the first team squad? It seems perfect sense to offload those outer fringe players and the costs of having them kicking their heels here. Summer will tell us how committed KL is, if we dont buy and start selling the best players then the dream is over. Personally i would rather us make space for Gallagher to get games than have Billy Sharp at the club, for Fox to go to give space for Chambers etc etc The nations parents with the best young kids will be looking to let Saints have their kids rather than the Chelseas who never let their young players develop in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Does this make me ITK like crabs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Does this make me ITK like crabs? If ITK stands for irritating ***ttish k*nt, then yes, you are very very ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Bloody hell Heisenberg You start a thread months ago but you are not ITK But I agree with jawillwill assessment But I would go as far as saying you are an irritating thick k**t As I don't know if you are actually Scottish , Pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 28 July, 2014 Share Posted 28 July, 2014 Bloody hell Heisenberg You start a thread months ago but you are not ITK But I agree with jawillwill assessment But I would go as far as saying you are an irritating thick k**t As I don't know if you are actually Scottish , Pal Lived in Glasgow for 5 years now, was born in Bournemouth Post 83 was tongue in cheek mate, forget that some have no concept for this and will post disclaimers going forward How are you health wise mate? Hope all is well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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