simo Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 More from BBC Sport's Ben Smith:"Mauricio Pochettino has no plans to plunge Southampton into further turmoil by following former chairman Nicola Cortese out of the club in the short term. His long-term future remains in doubt, however."The players have expressed their surprise and disappointment at Cortese's departure but while Pochettino remains they do not plan to spark an exodus from the club."
surrey1saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 MailSport: BREAKING: #SaintsFC manager Mauricio Pochettino will commit to the club after talks with owner Katharina Liebherr http://t.co/VlhFM7Ddgb
Tomobz Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 What did everyone honestly expect to happen? That MP was gonna ditch us then KL was going to sell every good player we have and run off into the sunset with millions leaving us as screwed as the skates? Even if MP did leave and took some players with him we would have more money to re invest. It's not like the Lowe era now, everything will be fine. Keep the faith! Up the Saints
James Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 MP fast on his way to becoming a legend. Can't see many senior players leaving whilst MP is committed. We may still lose a couple but we may have sold shaw and even lambert had NC stayed...
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Will go in the summer -gives him and the other coaches time to line something up and Liebherr can exit without having to force a hasty sale through.
James Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Will go in the summer -gives him and the other coaches time to line something up and Liebherr can sell up without having to force a hasty sale through. Pure speculation.
dubai_phil Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 MailOnline Sport @MailSport 19m BREAKING: #SaintsFC manager Mauricio Pochettino will commit to the club after talks with owner Katharina Liebherr http://dailym.ai
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Will go in the summer -gives him and the other coaches time to line something up and Liebherr can exit without having to force a hasty sale through. Not necessarily, lets be honest nobody has a clue whats going on
angelman Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 I think NC should also be recognised in this. MP had backed himself into a corner a little bit (and IMO rather naively as well), and no doubt the meeting last night at SMS was to tell him to consider his future properly.
daveygwyatt Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 If true prehaps she needs to back him with a big signing this window, would make a big statement .
Toomer Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 This adds to my speculation that Cortese might return being the front man for another owner.
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 The itai reports suggesting he wanted a change of scenery make more sense now. Hard to believe he was oblivious to the off the field problems.
Convict Colony Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 I'd like to know what has changed from last June when MP said he would walk, what has Katrina/Nicola said in the last 24hrs to make him change his mind ? Funds ? Selling the club to Nicola who needs funds to purchase etc. Also seeing an article doesn't Shaw have that clause inserted into his contract saying he can leave if Cortese does ?
swannymere Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 There's no point in him leaving until the end of the season when he'll have a bigger choice of clubs to choose from if he does decide to leave. I hope he stays however unlikely.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 I'd like to know what has changed from last June when MP said he would walk, what has Katrina/Nicola said in the last 24hrs to make him change his mind ? Funds ? Selling the club to Nicola who needs funds to purchase etc. Also seeing an article doesn't Shaw have that clause inserted into his contract saying he can leave if Cortese does ? He's been here a year now, last May he'd just been here a couple of months and I think he was still living in a hotel somewhere. Now he's becoming accustomed to the way of life, his family are here and he's doing well enough. Anyone can change their mind when a situation ceases to be hypothetical and becomes real.
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Not necessarily, lets be honest nobody has a clue whats going on The beeb report is the most plausible thing I've read, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25755711
beatlesaint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 If true wouldn't it be nice if, just for once, the club made a statement about it on the OS to both inform the fans and to keep at bay the packs of over eager journalists who will need a map and compass to find their way to the Press Conference this afternoon. That way it takes the wind out of their sails and the PC can be just about the Sunderland game as it would have been had NC not gone !
fish fingers Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 MailSport -"Alpine saint in Crisis - blames Ramirez"
James Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 If true wouldn't it be nice if, just for once, the club made a statement about it on the OS to both inform the fans and to keep at bay the packs of over eager journalists who will need a map and compass to find their way to the Press Conference this afternoon. That way it takes the wind out of their sails and the PC can be just about the Sunderland game as it would have been had NC not gone ! He may make a statement in the PC.... I hope he does so we can express our gratitude on Saturday.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 There's no point in him leaving until the end of the season when he'll have a bigger choice of clubs to choose from if he does decide to leave. I hope he stays however unlikely. Milan have appointed Seedorf as coach/manager, now that's experimental enough and it could go either way really. It's about as likely as not that they'll be looking for a new manager in the summer anyway. Pochettino could well be a prime candidate should that situation arise.
DuncanRG Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Exactly this. I cannot believe its not been suggested by many on here or the papers. Everyone seems too caught up in the confusion and hype. This is exactly his plan IMO. He knows what the club is worth and how to run it. He's in an incredible position to be a front man for another buyer, and maybe invest too. It's a romantic idea but I doubt that Liebherr would sell to Cortese, and far as I'm aware he could have done fronted a consortium without resigning as chairman. If that was the plan then he would have informed certain players as well, certainly the one who has Cortese's name in his contract. If Shaw goes, it ain't happening.
angelman Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Why not sell to Cortese? Both parties know each other, so might ease things along and it might be seen as reward for services given both to her father and to the club in recent years. It does seem strange that one of the reasons given for leaving was a disagreement on his cut if the club was to be sold - why walk away from that and get nothing?
Hatch Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 I'd like to know what has changed from last June when MP said he would walk, what has Katrina/Nicola said in the last 24hrs to make him change his mind ? sh*t loads has changed. Why does it have to be the last 24 hrs. He has signed a load of players, players have signed new contracts, he would have got these players in on the 'Southampton Way' He owes a lot to his team. It's not just about NC.
conaero Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 This adds to my speculation that Cortese might return being the front man for another owner. That was my initial thought too. NC goes, tells MP to stay, keep things ticking over, NC buys the club out.
aintforever Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 As I said in the other thread, the only thing that really matters is what Leibherr plans to do with the club, If she is happy to keep investing whoever is Chief Exec is not as big an issue.
conaero Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Why not sell to Cortese? Both parties know each other, so might ease things along and it might be seen as reward for services given both to her father and to the club in recent years. It does seem strange that one of the reasons given for leaving was a disagreement on his cut if the club was to be sold - why walk away from that and get nothing? With any luck the next few weeks will be turmoil, we will retain MP but slide down the table finishing a couple of places clear. KL will have had enough by then, NC walks in with a sensible offer, KL can side step the turd.
aintforever Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 That was my initial thought too. NC goes, tells MP to stay, keep things ticking over, NC buys the club out. From what I've been told NC has a stake in the club already.
WealdSaint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 It is of course possible that NC left because he had a conflict of Interest. Perhaps this frees him to go and talk to some of his banker friends and put together a bid to buy the club of the Liebers?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Back tracking faster than an italian tank.... Said he would defo go if Nicola goes, so whats changed? His options? Players? Now loves the club?
Barry Sanchez Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Pure speculation. How do you know he is staying? Pure speculation until he has said it.
James Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 How do you know he is staying? Pure speculation until he has said it. I never said he definitely was staying...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Back tracking faster than an italian tank.... Said he would defo go if Nicola goes, so whats changed? His options? Players? Now loves the club? Another of GS' funnies. You need more material nipper.
OldNick Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Back tracking faster than an italian tank.... Said he would defo go if Nicola goes, so whats changed? His options? Players? Now loves the club? pot and kettle there GS. Time moves on and I hope MP has more affection for us now
S-Clarke Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Another of GS' funnies. You need more material nipper. He's having a nightmare at the moment. Still trying to fish, but he's now in a pretty big lake what with all the online members at the moment. Bless him, he's getting lost out there.
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 He's having a nightmare at the moment. Still trying to fish, but he's now in a pretty big lake what with all the online members at the moment. Bless him, he's getting lost out there. He is a poor WUM at best, nice to see him and Dune enjoying themselves though, lifes otherwise dull for them.
Solid Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Back tracking faster than an italian tank.... Said he would defo go if Nicola goes, so whats changed? His options? Players? Now loves the club? Reality changed. Nothing can switch minds faster in my experience.
Bewildered Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Paul Belverstone @paulbelvers 1m Katharina Liebherr has just arrived at St Mary's for her meeting with Mauricio Pochettino #saintsfc
S-Clarke Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Paul Belverstone @paulbelvers 1m Katharina Liebherr has just arrived at St Mary's for her meeting with Mauricio Pochettino #saintsfc How many contradicting reports are there! She's not here according to some....and now she is here according to others.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 How many contradicting reports are there! She's not here according to some....and now she is here according to others. one of the great problems with people making stuff up, there are many versions of the same event...or non-event as the case might be. With twitter and stuff like that everybody and his dog feels obliged to comment on anything and everything. In times gone by people just made stuff up and exposed it to a select few in public houses and the like, now it's gone global on various social media.
itchen_dan Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 @SouthamptonFC: PHOTO: #SaintsFC manager Mauricio Pochettino and assistant Jesús Pérez watching training this morning. http://t.co/WpOpAko3YQ Doesn't he look happy...
dubai_phil Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Back tracking faster than an italian tank.... Said he would defo go if Nicola goes, so whats changed? His options? Players? Now loves the club? The Milan job is not going to be available until the summer. Must be some odds you can get somewhere on that, & on NC turning up there first. Wasn't there a quote from MP about his contract renewal - he wasn't that concerned that talks had not yet started? Yes and interestingly 18th December http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/southampton-boss-pochettino-plays-down-new-contract-talks-3997807 Yeah, buy out cost in the summer will be less............ Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino has cooled talk of entering new contract talks. Pochettino, whose current contract has another 18 months to run, has confirmed that no discussions have taken place as yet. “I have until next season,” he explained. “My contract runs into next season, but we have not spoken about it yet.”
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Reality changed. Nothing can switch minds faster in my experience. Im not so sure - he was fairly adamant in the summer "My Word Is My Bond" "I would not continue if Nicola Cortese was not here. It would not make any sense if I was at this club and he wasn’t." Asked if he would be staying if Cortese left, the Argentinian said: ''Of course not, because the person that has put his faith in me in this club and as a manager is Nicola Cortese. ''Me on a personal sense, I would not understand a Southampton without Nicola being here.'' ''Basically, my future in Southampton has to be with Nicola.''
Viking Warrior Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Some of the comments by some folk are unbelievable . The writers of tv soaps should use this forum for new scripts . Glasgow the new dot cotton CB as a Phil Mitchell clone Pastor Roy harpers twin brother Oh following yesterday's revelations how a boy Bearsy as Deirdre Barlow or Sally
ottery st mary Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 one of the great problems with people making stuff up, there are many versions of the same event...or non-event as the case might be. With twitter and stuff like that everybody and his dog feels obliged to comment on anything and everything. In times gone by people just made stuff up and exposed it to a select few in public houses and the like, now it's gone global on various social media. Sooooo true.. I have been informed... I have been made aware... My mate at the club told me..... :) Posters making things up or repeating what was said three pages before:p COYS and 3 points against Sunderland:D
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 He's having a nightmare at the moment. Still trying to fish, but he's now in a pretty big lake what with all the online members at the moment. Bless him, he's getting lost out there. The little fella's positively drowning.
Charlie Wayman Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 What Mauricio Pochettino needs to bear in mind is resignation out of a misplaced loyalty to the ex-CEO will be a Folly of the grandest scale. The minute Cortese had decided that results weren't good enough, Poch would have been out the door just like Adkins before him and Pardew before him. People like Cortese are ruthless and do not understand quaint emotional notions like loyalty. The manager's loyalty should be to his colleagues, his players and the fans nobody else, it's just a job he's doing.
Psycrow Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 Back tracking faster than an italian tank.... Said he would defo go if Nicola goes, so whats changed? His options? Players? Now loves the club? He said that 6 months ago when NC sat him down and said "Look, I need a power play, back me up in the press and we'll get money to sign players" I seriously doubt it was meant as a long term statement.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Posted 16 January, 2014 He said that 6 months ago when NC sat him down and said "Look, I need a power play, back me up in the press and we'll get money to sign players" I seriously doubt it was meant as a long term statement. slightly backfired now then...
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