St Marco Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Read my post mate. On 23 game form we're safe. Why are 8 games more reliable than 23? They're not. 23 games includes every team in the league played home or away. Look, it ain't saying it's a guarantee off safety just as YOU cannot say it's a gaurantee of relegation. But maths is maths and today we are safe not relegated. Again that relies fully on if the season replicates the past 23 games. But for that to happen means we must win the same games and the others lose the same games. The current projection of points based on form would show that the 2nd half of the season will not replicate the 1st at least in the first few games of the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Oh look a "Lets blame the fans for everything",post. Isnt it funny how at least one of these turns up every week when the pro Lowes try to defend him. The fans don't pick the team. In over 50 years rarely have the fans been wrong about a poor player or manager. In recent years the fans have got it right more often than the management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Oh look a "Lets blame the fans for everything",post. Isnt it funny how at least one of these turns up every week when the pro Lowes try to defend him. I don't think I actually mentioned 'fans' in my post - do you classify people who don't go to games and urge others to do the same as 'fans'? Incidentally, your reply didn't actually answer anything it just tried to ridicule the writer - that's not the best way of persuading anyone to accept your viewpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Again that relies fully on if the season replicates the past 23 games. But for that to happen means we must win the same games and the others lose the same games. The current projection of points based on form would show that the 2nd half of the season will not replicate the 1st at least in the first few games of the 2nd half. Current form is irrelevant mate. Did we all play the same teams over the last eight games?? If I lost three tennis matches to Federer and you won three against your neighbour does it follow that you are the better player and will therefore beat me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 I don't think I actually mentioned 'fans' in my post - do you classify people who don't go to games and urge others to do the same as 'fans'? Incidentally, your reply didn't actually answer anything it just tried to ridicule the writer - that's not the best way of persuading anyone to accept your viewpoint. Calling supporters "A cancer"?Seems like you are blaming the fans to me. Also it doesnt matter if you go to a game or not,in my book if you support Saints,then you are a fan. But rpb,sorry if you think i was ridiculing you,i was not. It just seemed in your original post that you were putting the poor team form and Lowes mismanagement on the shoulders of the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 The fans don't pick the team. In over 50 years rarely have the fans been wrong about a poor player or manager. In recent years the fans have got it right more often than the management. Hmm, you thinking of a different type of fan or different club? Fuller? Delap? Crouch? To name but three written off here and succeeding elsewhere. Spoken as someone who went nuts when Lowe appointed the failed Coventry manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Calling supporters "A cancer"?Seems like you are blaming the fans to me. Also it doesnt matter if you go to a game or not,in my book if you support Saints,then you are a fan. But rpb,sorry if you think i was ridiculing you,i was not. It just seemed in your original post that you were putting the poor team form and Lowes mismanagement on the shoulders of the fans. A good reply, thanks - I was actually (over) reacting to Stanley's post referring to Wilde and Lowe as a cancer (it does get tiresome) and suggesting that his comments weren't particularly helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 At the beginning of the season, and even when Pearson was here, it was a widely held belief that with our financial issues we would be happy to stay up this year. Now call me a stickler for facts, but I seem to believe that if the season ended now we would stay up. Maybe I'm wrong... It seems after yesterdays game people have completely over-reacted. We lost to Burnley, who are a very good championship side, located a long way from Southampton. I think people still reckon we should be challenging. People need to realise that we are currently a low end Championship side. That's it. And considering the players that we're having to play I think we're actually not doing too shabbily. People are always looking to blame someone. We do live in a blame society. Something goes wrong, someone is to blame. Things happen in cycles (look at Global warming). All I really have to say on the matter is: - Get over it, ffs. Support your club. (Cue loads of people blaming Lowe for everything, yawn.) Ps. I don't want him here, but he's our best option. Lowe our best option ???????? Yawn yawn....another Rupert love child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Hmm, you thinking of a different type of fan or different club? Fuller? Delap? Crouch? To name but three written off here and succeeding elsewhere. Spoken as someone who went nuts when Lowe appointed the failed Coventry manager... And of course Kenwyne Jones was rubbish. The fans know all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 14 December, 2008 Share Posted 14 December, 2008 Yawn yawn....another Rupert love child. So why is Dibden wrong? I'm interested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Again that relies fully on if the season replicates the past 23 games. But for that to happen means we must win the same games and the others lose the same games. The current projection of points based on form would show that the 2nd half of the season will not replicate the 1st at least in the first few games of the 2nd half. Are you part of the Dutch trio - you appear to be speaking it (well at least double anyway...!) I think that if you read LTC's posts again - he makes a cogent argument - quote all the stats you like based on 8 games - the only two that you really need is where we are now after 23 and where we will be after 46. One we can tell you now - the other we will all have to wait to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Hating a parasite like Lowe who is only at the club with his mate Cowen to make money for himself is not an anti Saints sentiment. SFC like all sports clubs should be self sustaining, not there to feather the nests of people like Lowe, Cowen, Askham and the rest of the parasites. So in your opinion Lowe and his mate are only here to make money, If that's the case then the premiership is where to be as that is where the money is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Lowe our best option ???????? Yawn yawn....another Rupert love child. So who is our best option then? Great to yawn if you are tired but what is your alternatine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Threads like this are well and good but when your club is.. Facing administration Winning one game at home by Christmas 4th from bottom of the Championship Made up from youth team players and loanees Have a manager with no English experience what so ever Have two chairmen who are probably two of the most disliked people ever to be associated with the club Have no visible way out of the quagmire that is Championship football at what stage do we stop being miserable and pessimistic? At what point are we allowed to feel in any way shape or form, optimistic about this club? It just seems to me that there are far too many people on here moaning about negative fans than actually looking at why this club is faltering and failing. "It's down to poor attendances, it's down to whinging fans..." No it's not.. It's down to: A chairman that thought he could run the club on the cheap and whose meddling and interfering were major factors in our getting relegated Another chairman who created chaos by usurping the above chairman when he didn't have a plan A let alone a plan B and spent most of his time avoiding tax in Jersey A manager in Redknapp who just didn't care A manager in Burley who just couldn't cope and a manger in Poortvliet who has no experience in English football and just doesn't know how to grind out results in this tough, mean league.. It's not down to fans being negative or staying away from St marys, They're the symptom. There are people on here who seem to think the symptom's more important than the cause. No wonder we're in such disarray... Superb post. Spot on. Immaculate reasoning. Some people are only intent on shooting the messenger though. But, hey-ho, let the attention seeking Billy-No-Mates on here continue sermonising from their positions of moral superiority and Ueber-fandom.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 (edited) So in your opinion Lowe and his mate are only here to make money, If that's the case then the premiership is where to be as that is where the money is. Ideally yes, but Lowe has time and time again shown he is an egotistical bungling bufoon. That said if he miraculously did make some good decisions and miraculously found a manager who could work under him, he´d simply milk the profits to support himself, his cronies and the the shareholders. SFC should be a football club that is self sustaining. NOT A FOOTBALL CLUB THERE TO SUSTAIN PARASITES. Thanks to Askhams greed the club died many years ago. You and your ilk who claim to be fans of the club should hang your heads in shame if you support the canerous PLC. Edited 15 December, 2008 by Mole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 So who is our best option then? Great to yawn if you are tired but what is your alternatine? Wilde to sell shares to Crouch....crouch to bring in saltz to run things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Or the ruiner of a growing reputation as a CEO/MD if they were unable to avoid the risk of administration.... No, you're right of course. There is absolutely nothing that can be done that isn't already being done. The plan is we escape relegation on goal difference and as we are on well on course there's nothing to worry about, or change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 We have to face facts, Lowe is the ONLY person in the entire world that can run SLH and SFC. The decisions he's made were and are the only options available to this club and when Rupert retires, we will just have to shut down. Rupert Lowe has done a magnificent job and if it weren't for him, we'd be relegated already. He has come in and made the difference to last season, and this season has been so much better than the lasst few without him, it is easy to see where the others went wrong. Rupert Lowe is the savior of Southampton Football Club and on his retirement day, we will all rejoice at his greatness and then march en mass down to Poopey and support them, because Rupert wouldn't want us to go without football and so will pledge our allegiance to poopey on out behalf. We will of course, follow blindly. Without Lowe, there is no Southampton Football Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Originally Posted by aintforever Well I don't agree. There are plenty of capable and experienced CEOs within the football industry that could easily replace Rupert. The 'there are no real alternatives to Lowe argument' is a myth and does not wash with me. Then suggest someone. Give me a name. Why should he give you a name? It is perfectly sufficient, his contention that Lowe is not the only Chief Executive out there that could do a decent job at running this club. Instead of asking who could do it, why don't you more constructively attempt to debate whether his contention is accurate if you don't agree with it? Would you have plucked out Lowe's name a decade ago as being somebody who could do the job as Chairman and Chief Executive at the time of the reverse takeover? And at that time he had no experience of running a football club at all. I don't recall a chorus of people then saying that there was no alternative to Guy Askham. If any of you lot out there view your remarks that there is no alternative to Lowe against the background of that scenario, you will then realise how ridiculous it makes you look. It might be difficult to scourge us of Lowe, to prise him away from the controls of the train set, but to say that there is nobody else out there who could take over from him is just wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Quote: Originally Posted by St. Jason View Post Why's that a problem, we're paying Lowe and Cowen! The only one not to take a penny out of SFC was Crouch! ********!!!! He employed Hoon and Dulieu who extracted hundreds of thousands of pounds out of our football club! Are you really sure about that as I thought that was Judas Wilde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 At the beginning of the season, and even when Pearson was here, it was a widely held belief that with our financial issues we would be happy to stay up this year. Now call me a stickler for facts, but I seem to believe that if the season ended now we would stay up. Maybe I'm wrong... It seems after yesterdays game people have completely over-reacted. We lost to Burnley, who are a very good championship side, located a long way from Southampton. I think people still reckon we should be challenging. People need to realise that we are currently a low end Championship side. That's it. And considering the players that we're having to play I think we're actually not doing too shabbily. People are always looking to blame someone. We do live in a blame society. Something goes wrong, someone is to blame. Things happen in cycles (look at Global warming). All I really have to say on the matter is: - Get over it, ffs. Support your club. (Cue loads of people blaming Lowe for everything, yawn.) Ps. I don't want him here, but he's our best option. The geographical location of the game shouldn't matter - professional footballers should be able to perform to a decent standard whether it's a home game or 300 miles away. You are right about Burnley being a good side as they are and Owen Coyle is a very bright young British manager. I'm sick of talking about Lowe but he does keep on making obvious mistakes - ie this daft Dutch experiment. We needed a hungry English manager who knows life outside the PL well and whilst JP seems like a lovely bloke, the tactics are not suitable for the limited type of players that we have. I like the style of the football but it must have end product. Also, you need to be able to be professional and close a game up, WBA and Leeds are two other sides who aren't doing this either and overplaying, with similar results to us. I'd be quite happy with survival but do bear in mind folks that the squad is likely to be much weaker by 1 Feb unless we can offload John, Euell et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 So who is our best option then? Great to yawn if you are tired but what is your alternatine? I'll make one SW, Andrew Cowen in the short-term. Rupert could still keep his hand in but Cowen is far more highly regarded by both our fans and within football itself. It's not that I hate Rupert, far from it, he's far better than Askham, Wiseman, Richards or Wilde, all of which I do hate and even more so than Harry or even Milan Mandaric who even if they had set out to destroy our club couldn't have done a better job than Wilde and co. At least Rupert appointed WGS and did some positive things. I just think that he is such a divisive and "marmite" figure that he needs to take a back seat in the interests of unity. His choice in managers since 2004 has also stunk which is a definate shortfall in this particular industry, not to mention the costly SCW debacle! SCW was fine if we'd stayed up and if it hadn't interfered with the first team XI. I think Cowen understands how bigger organisations work better than Rupert and is a better people manager. Rupert is a strong leader, give him credit for that but his unitary style can only work if you get all of your big decisions correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 This season was always going to be a struggle for survival. I can't see the reasoned thinking behind people saying that we would be doing far better if we had kept Pearson. If Stern John's shot had gone a few inches wider then Pearson would have got us relegated last season and I can't see how he was going to be good enough to get us to mid-table or better when we would have had to get rid of almost all of our first team players from last season no matter who was the manager. If we can beat a team in the bottom three at home on Saturday there is a very good chance we will go into Xmas 7 points clear of the relegation zone which I think will be a pretty good acheivement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 We have to face facts, Lowe is the ONLY person in the entire world that can run SLH and SFC. The decisions he's made were and are the only options available to this club and when Rupert retires, we will just have to shut down. Rupert Lowe has done a magnificent job and if it weren't for him, we'd be relegated already. He has come in and made the difference to last season, and this season has been so much better than the lasst few without him, it is easy to see where the others went wrong. Rupert Lowe is the savior of Southampton Football Club and on his retirement day, we will all rejoice at his greatness and then march en mass down to Poopey and support them, because Rupert wouldn't want us to go without football and so will pledge our allegiance to poopey on out behalf. We will of course, follow blindly. Without Lowe, there is no Southampton Football Club.John Smith is not a very good alias is it Rupert! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 We have to face facts, Lowe is the ONLY person in the entire world that can run SLH and SFC. The decisions he's made were and are the only options available to this club and when Rupert retires, we will just have to shut down. Rupert Lowe has done a magnificent job and if it weren't for him, we'd be relegated already. He has come in and made the difference to last season, and this season has been so much better than the lasst few without him, it is easy to see where the others went wrong. Rupert Lowe is the savior of Southampton Football Club and on his retirement day, we will all rejoice at his greatness and then march en mass down to Poopey and support them, because Rupert wouldn't want us to go without football and so will pledge our allegiance to poopey on out behalf. We will of course, follow blindly. Without Lowe, there is no Southampton Football Club. Now I know yer 'avin a larf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 15 December, 2008 The likes of DP are the same as the happy clappy liberals who have ruined this country over the last 40 years. They wear their reasonableness as a badge of honour. Chamberlain was the same and his reasonableness cost millions of lives. Liberals? **** off. I am not a 'reasonable person' as you put it, in fact I'm quite ruthless but only where there is a point in being so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 This season was always going to be a struggle for survival. I can't see the reasoned thinking behind people saying that we would be doing far better if we had kept Pearson. If Stern John's shot had gone a few inches wider then Pearson would have got us relegated last season and I can't see how he was going to be good enough to get us to mid-table or better when we would have had to get rid of almost all of our first team players from last season no matter who was the manager. If we can beat a team in the bottom three at home on Saturday there is a very good chance we will go into Xmas 7 points clear of the relegation zone which I think will be a pretty good acheivement. The problem is that seven points above relegation is way below some people's expectation. Personally I was worried we could be cut adrift by now with a coach with no experience in the UK and players with no first-team history to speak off. I wouldn't have admitted it necessarily but I really feared this whole experiment might be over already. Two wins and the whole table looks a lot rosier. But we do have to get them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Hating a parasite like Lowe who is only at the club with his mate Cowen to make money for himself is not an anti Saints sentiment. SFC like all sports clubs should be self sustaining, not there to feather the nests of people like Lowe, Cowen, Askham and the rest of the parasites. Then perhaps you'd like to go support one of these 'Self sutaining' sports club, lol. God you're a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 The likes of DP are the same as the happy clappy liberals who have ruined this country over the last 40 years. They wear their reasonableness as a badge of honour. Chamberlain was the same and his reasonableness cost millions of lives. liberals like who !-thatcher,blair -your talking nonsence whats this crap got to do with a football forum . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 liberals like who !-thatcher,blair -your talking nonsence whats this crap got to do with a football forum . Glad I'm not the only one who didn't understand that post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Wilde to sell shares to Crouch....crouch to bring in saltz to run things I thought Crouch and Wilde said they were going to buy Lowe's shares. That was eluded to by both parties, yet it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 I thought Crouch and Wilde said they were going to buy Lowe's shares. That was eluded to by both parties, yet it didn't happen. Because Lowe and his cabal wouldn't sell their shares to them. Do try to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 15 December, 2008 We have to face facts, Lowe is the ONLY person in the entire world that can run SLH and SFC. The decisions he's made were and are the only options available to this club and when Rupert retires, we will just have to shut down. Rupert Lowe has done a magnificent job and if it weren't for him, we'd be relegated already. He has come in and made the difference to last season, and this season has been so much better than the lasst few without him, it is easy to see where the others went wrong. Rupert Lowe is the savior of Southampton Football Club and on his retirement day, we will all rejoice at his greatness and then march en mass down to Poopey and support them, because Rupert wouldn't want us to go without football and so will pledge our allegiance to poopey on out behalf. We will of course, follow blindly. Without Lowe, there is no Southampton Football Club. Very droll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Because Lowe and his cabal wouldn't sell their shares to them. Do try to keep up. Ah yes, I remember now. The fact that Lowe never received an offer to the amount promised to him means he's the one in the wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Because Lowe and his cabal wouldn't sell their shares to them. Do try to keep up. If I remember rightly Rupes had a confrontation in a public place with some guy or other because the formal offer to buy the shares had never actually been made as promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Very droll... How dare you question the drollness of Rupert 'The Savior' Lowe! If it weren't for Rupert, Southampton FC would not be half as successful as they are now! Rupert has put Saints on the Soccer World Map! And if he was ever forced ouot again, which is highly unlikely, as there is no one quite so super duper as Rupert, this club would whither and die. Your words are tantamount to heresy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Then perhaps you'd like to go support one of these 'Self sutaining' sports club, lol. God you're a joke. Actually DPS, for the one and only time (ever) I will agree with Stanley. Football clubs have lived beyond their means for years, and right now with economy the way it is, times have changed. SFC must support itself, and have a cost base relavent to its income. That is the only way of maintaining this club long term, unless you can find a rich sugar daddy. The pain that we have suffered is going to be felt by a lot of other clubs over the next few years, lets hope we're in a position where we can benefit from them being on the down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Actually DPS, for the one and only time (ever) I will agree with Stanley. Football clubs have lived beyond their means for years, and right now with economy the way it is, times have changed. SFC must support itself, and have a cost base relavent to its income. That is the only way of maintaining this club long term, unless you can find a rich sugar daddy. The pain that we have suffered is going to be felt by a lot of other clubs over the next few years, lets hope we're in a position where we can benefit from them being on the down. Looking at the world economy, you may well be right. Coventry must be cacking themselves as hedge funds look set to shrink into a tiny shrub - SISU are not immune - and even Blackburn with the Walker legacy are terrified of relegation. The skates are in awful trouble with a tin shed for a ground and few fixed assets. This doesn't excuse the poor running of SFC since 2004 but I rue the day Abramovich wheeled his roubles into the Chelsea boardroom and ripped the heart of an already top-heavy PL albeit one that was still functional. Look at the state of Liverpool as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 how dare you question the drollness of rupert 'the savior' lowe! If it weren't for rupert, southampton fc would not be half as successful as they are now! Rupert has put saints on the soccer world map! And if he was ever forced ouot again, which is highly unlikely, as there is no one quite so super duper as rupert, this club would whither and die. Your words are tantamount to heresy!lol lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 It's not down to fans being negative or staying away from St Marys, They're the symptom. There are people on here who seem to think the symptom's more important than the cause. No wonder we're in such disarray... Truer words have not been spoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Looking at the world economy, you may well be right. Coventry must be cacking themselves as hedge funds look set to shrink into a tiny shrub - SISU are not immune - and even Blackburn with the Walker legacy are terrified of relegation. The skates are in awful trouble with a tin shed for a ground and few fixed assets. This doesn't excuse the poor running of SFC since 2004 but I rue the day Abramovich wheeled his roubles into the Chelsea boardroom and ripped the heart of an already top-heavy PL albeit one that was still functional. Look at the state of Liverpool as well. Agree entirely, many other clubs could well be forced to implement the sort of operational measures that we are currently running with. Agree about Abramovich as well, however just think of the impact that it would have if (when...!!) he decides he has had enough of the trainset and wants out. CFC have an outstanding £750 million loan from him which is repayable should he walk. Most clubs operating in the PL are doing so based on the revenue generated by Sky as well. Just think what would happen if they lost that contract and the revenue was drastically reduced - could happen. The bottom line is that at some point the fans will not be able to, nor want to pay more and more to already overhyped and over paid sportsmen - the bubble will burst...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Then perhaps you'd like to go support one of these 'Self sutaining' sports club, lol. God you're a joke. I´m sure rupert is very proud of snivelling creeps like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Truer words have not been spoken And completely ignored by ruperts army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 IMO the wider fanbase is less optimistic and way more anti Lowe than this forum. I know some Saints fans who do not post on internet forums and they could not give a t*ss about Rupert Lowe one way of the other. I think the majority of the people only worry about what goes on on the pitch. These places seem to draw in people with agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 Personally I think we would have been in a better position with Pearson at the helm, IMO he did an excellent job turning a sinking ship round, and I was bitterly dissapointed that a no mark was appointed manager when we looked to have turned a corner. However I have been surprised at how well we have played at times bearing in mind the total lack of quality remaining at the club, and I really have enjoyed a fair few games. I love watching the passing football even of we have been a little toothless at times. I thought we would be rock bottom by now and have predicted relegation continuously. I still think we will be there or there abouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 I know some Saints fans who do not post on internet forums and they could not give a t*ss about Rupert Lowe one way of the other. I think the majority of the people only worry about what goes on on the pitch. These places seem to draw in people with agendas. Lowes a bit of a ****, but I'm much more interested in the football than the politics that has strangled the club over the last couple of years. There is sod all we can do about it other than stay away, but I want to watch my team so that isn't an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 15 December, 2008 Share Posted 15 December, 2008 I know some Saints fans who do not post on internet forums and they could not give a t*ss about Rupert Lowe one way of the other. I think the majority of the people only worry about what goes on on the pitch. These places seem to draw in people with agendas.i agree and its ruining this forum,its the same old crap posted week after week ,rehashing the same old lines and far fetched storys and twisting facts to suit their agenda. its amazing we even have some sad posters wanting us to lose . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 16 December, 2008 Share Posted 16 December, 2008 ********!!!! He employed Hoon and Dulieu who extracted hundreds of thousands of pounds out of our football club! As the thread title says 'people on this forum are ridiculous'. It wasn't Crouch who employed Hone and Dulieu, it was the same person who put Lowe back on his throne; the same person who has caused us to be the financial mire we are now in; Mike 'Scouse' Wilde!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 16 December, 2008 Share Posted 16 December, 2008 i agree and its ruining this forum,its the same old crap posted week after week ,rehashing the same old lines and far fetched storys and twisting facts to suit their agenda. its amazing we even have some sad posters wanting us to lose . You can either : 1. Dont read the "offending" threads or 2. Dont come here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 16 December, 2008 Share Posted 16 December, 2008 SFC should be a football club that is self sustaining. NOT A FOOTBALL CLUB THERE TO SUSTAIN PARASITES. Thanks to Askhams greed the club died many years ago. And there we have it, the real reason we are where we are now. The three primarily responsible for our total demise are: Askham Wilde Lowe in that order, IMO. For those asking who could do a better job than Lowe: I am sure there are many but I don't run around in the world of dynamic CEOs, and only know a handful of the names of chairman of any other football club, but I do sincerely believe that Crouch would not have been any worse and probably a darned site better. Do not believe all this carp being touted by Lowe and Quisling that our finances were his fault. They themselves were the ones to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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