Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Totally agree what does it matter what she looks like, give the lady a chance I hope for one that she comes in and does a good job and makes her Dad proud. tbf we also ragged cortese for his diminutive stature + lowe for his public school upbringing. We are equal opportunities in our abuses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkou Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 "Maybe Katrina has better plans for the club" Better for her maybe, sell to the highest bidder and finally free up he father´s fortune. Whether that is better for the club will depend on who buys it and if they can (unlikely in my opinion) keep MP as manager. I am normally an optimist, but have a horrible vision in my head of saints in the championship in 2 years time with Ian Holloway at the helm promising a lat surge into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 He is, I would literally love to hear his reasoning. They aren't the ones who decided to pay transfer fees or give themselves large contracts are they? Honestly. True! But they did decide to contribute naff all in effort and enthusiasm for a good 80% of the games they played in Gaston has had a few assists but its all too little too late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timayes Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Is it the lady on the left or one of the two guys? I love this. I know it's wrong, and childish, but it brought me sunshine today, ta BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 OK then, clever clogs. Give us your detailed appraisal of the facts that leads you to this conclusion. Facts, that is, not conjecture, speculation, supposition or guesswork derived from conclusions that eminate from your febrile imagination. No. I will just give my opinion, happy to be judged on it. We will see. Although I am happy to see that this :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25755711 Supports my opinion :- "The problems began at the end of last season and although an uneasy truce was reached in May, by the time the season had begun, it was clear all was not well. Liebherr, who was left the club by her father Marcus following his sudden death in 2010, had no interest in Southampton and no knowledge of football - she wanted to sell the club. Cortese was open to that, but his preference for a sale in two or three years was at odds with Liebherr's desire for an immediate sale. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 I am normally an optimist, but have a horrible vision in my head of saints in the championship in 2 years time with Ian Holloway at the helm promising a lat surge into the playoffs. A grim prospect indeed. We'll probably be back in stripes by then tho so everything will be okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Although I am happy to see that this :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25755711 Supports my opinion :- "The problems began at the end of last season and although an uneasy truce was reached in May, by the time the season had begun, it was clear all was not well. Liebherr, who was left the club by her father Marcus following his sudden death in 2010, had no interest in Southampton and no knowledge of football - she wanted to sell the club. Cortese was open to that, but his preference for a sale in two or three years was at odds with Liebherr's desire for an immediate sale. " The BBC item implies that KL wants to sell asap, that she doesn't want to wait 2 or 3 years to do it. Cortese has said that in the event that Liebherrs wanted to sell he had people waiting to buy, that the future would be guaranteed. If there's been a rumbling issue since May I can't imagine that NC hasn't a backup plan other than just to do a disappearing act. I think he'll be in there fighting for what he wants - I don't think he'll just walk away from his achievements. This is of course pure speculation, if such a thing is still allowed on a discussion forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Although I am happy to see that this :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25755711 Supports my opinion :- "The problems began at the end of last season and although an uneasy truce was reached in May, by the time the season had begun, it was clear all was not well. Liebherr, who was left the club by her father Marcus following his sudden death in 2010, had no interest in Southampton and no knowledge of football - she wanted to sell the club. Cortese was open to that, but his preference for a sale in two or three years was at odds with Liebherr's desire for an immediate sale. " I asked you for facts and you have not been able to provide anything factual at all. You just produce an article from a media source which is as much conjecture as yours. The media also reported that Cortese had been offered an "eye-watering" sum of money to stay, but he declined it. That hardly gives any substance to your or the Beeb's contention that Katarina was in a tearing hurry to sell the club, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Although I am happy to see that this :- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25755711 Supports my opinion :- "The problems began at the end of last season and although an uneasy truce was reached in May, by the time the season had begun, it was clear all was not well. Liebherr, who was left the club by her father Marcus following his sudden death in 2010, had no interest in Southampton and no knowledge of football - she wanted to sell the club. Cortese was open to that, but his preference for a sale in two or three years was at odds with Liebherr's desire for an immediate sale. " Supports my opinion that they would sell up during last summer. By far the very best moment to sell - Prem status assured and not yet on the draining money pit of "just two more players". Glad to see I wasn't far off, despite being mocked on here. As far as the Leibherrs are concerned, they've fulfilled Dad's wishes and can move on. I have no doubt they will sell us to someone good, regardless of the hysterical dipsticks on here squealing "Lee Barnard! Lee Barnard! We'll be playing Lee Barnard!" All will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Excellent article challenging some of the misogyny going on in the press (and on here!)... http://www.football365.com/mediawatch/9118412/The-Page-That-Is-Sexified-And-Ancient?utm_source=twitterfeed_Mediawatch&utm_medium=twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 The BBC item implies that KL wants to sell asap, that she doesn't want to wait 2 or 3 years to do it. Cortese has said that in the event that Liebherrs wanted to sell he had people waiting to buy, that the future would be guaranteed. If there's been a rumbling issue since May I can't imagine that NC hasn't a backup plan other than just to do a disappearing act. I think he'll be in there fighting for what he wants - I don't think he'll just walk away from his achievements. This is of course pure speculation, if such a thing is still allowed on a discussion forum. No speculation or opinion allowed - only cold hard facts it seems - and no insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Are you sure? Management buyouts are hardly a new thing and a Cortese-led consortium surely would be a similar thing - and all the equity is Liebherr's anyway so it would be up to them (her) to look after the family's interest. Cortese's last spat with KL was in the summer transfer window and before that investment at Staplewood appeared to have stumbled for a while. Now he resigns in the January transfer window, so it seems pretty clear that there has been an issue about nvestment and vision since ML died. My guess is that there was probably some kind of gentleman's agreement between NC & ML for Cortese to eventually become (at least) a part owner - an Italian banker running an English football club just for salary never seemed a likely proposition. I think it likely that KL has probably demanded too much for the club, Cortese (and his possible backers) think the price should be lower on the basis that the added value has been brought by Cortese's efforts, so he's hacked off about that. Remember too that NC/ML played a waiting game before they bought the club - they wanted it at the right price. It paid off for NC then, maybe he's trying the same tactic again, trying not to look too keen to buy. However if MP does also quit it might indicate that NC and his backers have finally walked, that KL has been too intransigent on the price. It did make me laugh when people said KL would sell because she isn't interested in football. I suppose that must mean she is interested in locomotives, cranes and other heavy engineering. Mind you from the photo of her I can see why that might be the case. The key word there is "Engineering" .... Something you can more readily control and see your Profit/Loss Football is nothing like that, completely different in fact. Very few Clubs in the UK make sustained profits, and, ironically, a TRUE worth of a Club would not be known until all it's ASSETS (Players) are sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 The key word there is "Engineering" .... Something you can more readily control and see your Profit/Loss Football is nothing like that, completely different in fact. Very few Clubs in the UK make sustained profits, and, ironically, a TRUE worth of a Club would not be known until all it's ASSETS (Players) are sold I seem to remember reading somewhere that virtually everything from the late Markus's empire (not that it every included cranes, dumper trucks, freezers or heavy engineering) has been sold off and all that remains is a sort of consultancy business. Can't for the life of me think why the owner would be any more interested in keeping SFC than the rest of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 playing with Photo Shop again Bearsy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 nah that is direct lift from the ole current bun today. I am sympathy tho I'm also still working off my extra christmas timber. It doesn't not affect my ability to be chairman of football club either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 You would have thought with all them billions of squid she could afford a nicer jumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 i don't want to be too personal, but i bet it's quite itchy when the chain of ur pendant slips into the crack of ur neck fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 i don't want to be too personal, but i bet it's quite itchy when the chain of ur pendant slips into the crack of ur neck fat. That is disgusting, you are a moral! It's got nothing to do with her genderbodyshape you chauvanistic disrespector! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 i would say just the same if she was dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Oh and misogynistics you are that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 i would say just the same if she was dude! You mean she isn't a dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Edit: ... comment withdrawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 compared to the photo shown in post 57 I'm quite surprised, Toblerone abuse problem perhaps ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Edit: ... comment withdrawn... I want to hear more about this please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 i'm not falling into another of ur mainboard bear trap tokyos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Come and see what's in the lounge bear. That's right. One of your favorites.... an RIP thread...... Just say the first thing that comes into your mind.....what's the worse that could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Speech bubbles needed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Supports my opinion that they would sell up during last summer. By far the very best moment to sell - Prem status assured and not yet on the draining money pit of "just two more players". Glad to see I wasn't far off, despite being mocked on here. As far as the Leibherrs are concerned, they've fulfilled Dad's wishes and can move on. I have no doubt they will sell us to someone good, regardless of the hysterical dipsticks on here squealing "Lee Barnard! Lee Barnard! We'll be playing Lee Barnard!" All will be fine. As usual CBFRY you are always right. Thanks for reminding everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Edit: ...comment withdrawn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 That sundae is the same size as Cortese bear. Was that to scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 yeah she's a little fat so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 yeah she's a little fat so what? That's one of the better pics. She's a lottle fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 yeah she's a little fat so what? don't be that way X i already self-censored that one! Can you delete evidence pls i felt it was over the line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 As funny as it is, I feel a little uneasy about ripping into the only person with the fate of our club in their hands. We love you Katherina , please don't squash us Katherina...no, no I meant .. oh f*** it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 i'm not falling into another of ur mainboard bear trap tokyos. 3 minutes later... Dumb bear! Edit: bear anyone gets too touchy, it is just a joke, Like NC is short, Rupert bums ducks (not the hang him one) etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Interesting, if you go to the family web site their is a photo showing the family members that run the business, the lady above is not a part of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Interesting, if you go to the family web site their is a photo showing the family members that run the business, the lady above is not a part of that are you sure that the web site that you've been looking at concerns the right branch of the family ?? Ms KL only has one business, Mali International Holdings AG. All the rest is a different branch of the family, uncles, aunts, cousins etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Interesting, if you go to the family web site their is a photo showing the family members that run the business, the lady above is not a part of that Was that the Mali website or the Leibherr websit? Markus was Mali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Reports suggest she wants to sell the club. Please stop guessing like the Tabloids it's very unhelpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Please stop guessing like the Tabloids it's very unhelpful I'm not guessing at all. It is a fact that the media are reporting she is interested in selling the club. I'm not starting new rumours, nor pretending I know something either. I'm simply stating what is being reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 Supports my opinion that they would sell up during last summer. By far the very best moment to sell - Prem status assured and not yet on the draining money pit of "just two more players". Glad to see I wasn't far off, despite being mocked on here. As far as the Leibherrs are concerned, they've fulfilled Dad's wishes and can move on. I have no doubt they will sell us to someone good, regardless of the hysterical dipsticks on here squealing "Lee Barnard! Lee Barnard! We'll be playing Lee Barnard!" All will be fine. Hope Barney does get a few games, good player! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 You would have thought with all them billions of squid she could afford a nicer jumper. I'd jump 'er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 At least our catering facilities are in safe hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 are you sure that the web site that you've been looking at concerns the right branch of the family ?? Ms KL only has one business, Mali International Holdings AG. All the rest is a different branch of the family, uncles, aunts, cousins etc. Thank you window, I stand corrected, you are right I did go to the Leiberr crane site, thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/16/katharina-liebherr-southampton-football-owner-german-markusd Is KL in it for the long term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 (edited) http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/16/katharina-liebherr-southampton-football-owner-german-markusd Is KL in it for the long term? Link not working for me. But this one does :- http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/16/katharina-liebherr-southampton-football-owner-german-markus Edited 16 January, 2014 by mynameisthehulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 A few months after buying Southampton he bailed out a struggling printing company in Bern, saving 50 jobs and those of 72 apprentices and becoming known as the "Wifag saviour". After his death at the age of 62 in August 2010 and the subsequent inheritance of Mali Holdings by Katharina, she decided to make 31 employees redundant and has since been accused of failing to set a new direction for the company. The Swiss newspaper Der Bund said that while Mali initially said that Katharina would continue her father's work, "it has become increasingly clear in recent months that Mali can't sort out the successorship". One employee at Wifag was quoted saying: "With the death of the patron, the chicken has lost its head. For a while it continued wandering around without a sense of direction, then it bled to death." I wonder if she ate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 The focus has been on KL, but I thought I read Markus also had a son, and some supporters had met the two of them when Saints played pre-season in Switzerland a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2014 Share Posted 16 January, 2014 A few months after buying Southampton he bailed out a struggling printing company in Bern, saving 50 jobs and those of 72 apprentices and becoming known as the "Wifag saviour". After his death at the age of 62 in August 2010 and the subsequent inheritance of Mali Holdings by Katharina, she decided to make 31 employees redundant and has since been accused of failing to set a new direction for the company. The Swiss newspaper Der Bund said that while Mali initially said that Katharina would continue her father's work, "it has become increasingly clear in recent months that Mali can't sort out the successorship". One employee at Wifag was quoted saying: "With the death of the patron, the chicken has lost its head. For a while it continued wandering around without a sense of direction, then it bled to death." I wonder if she ate it? No she would have dipped the rest in breadcrumbs and scoffed the lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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