trousers Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Jordan Sibley @jordansibley Tough day. I'd like to put on record my appreciation for everything Nicola has done in last 5 years, it's been one hell of a ride #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 if lallana and haw were sold to united. you are looking at £40m+ To be reinvested (in full) or tucked down Liebherr's bra for her own keeping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 The whole thing smacks of either... (a) Cortese has a role lined up e.g. at AC Milan, or (b) KL wants to sell Luke Shaw and Cortese wanted to keep him here or he would leave. Or both. So perhaps we shall see the departure of Luke Shaw and possibly others such as Lallana and Schneiderlin before the end of the January window. Unless of course, the vision for the football side of the business was not Cortese's atall, but that of Les Reid - the chap that has for some time wanted to see a special club like Saints nurture top English talent for the England team. And of course if KL wanted to sell the club, would it not be better to sell it with the best players in situ? Perhaps there's more to this than meets the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Can't see Osvaldo staying without Pochettino either. Damn when did he leave? Missed that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Obviously the billionaire family got where they were by building up businesses and then disposing of their most valuable assets at prices below their worth to the organisation. To all those rounding on KL, please just realise you've heard one side of a very slick PR love in for Cortese for the last few months. I liked what he did for us and wish him well, but this doesn't have to be a game of good and bad sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 The big issues here are: 1. Does KL continue to fund investment 2. Does MP resign in protest. If yes to funding, and no to MP resigning it may prove storm in teacup. Although people have made snide remarks, this is where club structure with Les Reed as Director of Football really comes into its own. He has the noise and the contacts. NC did brilliant job but previously knew nothing about football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Stop trolling. Sarcasism is against forum rules I think you will find that is 'Sarcasm'..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 if lallana and haw were sold to united. you are looking at £40m+ If there is to be a mass exodus of players who will the agents and enquiring clubs be dealing with, surely there is no one to contact at the club until a new chairman is in place. The new chairman could be someone better than NC, we just don't know. Lets face it none of us are going to be able to alter the outcome. Do they interview for a new guy, if so who is out there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 The big issues here are: 1. Does KL continue to fund investment 2. Does MP resign in protest. If yes to funding, and no to MP resigning it may prove storm in teacup. Although people have made snide remarks, this is where club structure with Les Reed as Director of Football really comes into its own. He has the noise and the contacts. NC did brilliant job but previously knew nothing about football Sorry meant nouse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I think there are a lot of fans that are hugely underestimating how good NC was for our club. Pre NC we were whipping boys who were bullied in to selling our players at huge knock down prices. He came in and has turned us in to a bloody hard working team (not just on the pitch), and we are no longer whipping boys and thanks for for grooming the next Arsenal player for millions under their worth. The Chairman is what makes a business tick. The knock on effect of his resignation could be massive and catastrophic. Domino effect anyone? I am seriously worried for the rest of the Window and moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 If there is to be a mass exodus of players who will the agents and enquiring clubs be dealing with, surely there is no one to contact at the club until a new chairman is in place. The new chairman could be someone better than NC, we just don't know. Lets face it none of us are going to be able to alter the outcome. Do they interview for a new guy, if so who is out there ? Hello. New Chairman is K. Liebherr who will appoint Chief Exec. She could surely sanction the sale of a player tomorrow if a good enough opportunity came. Besides, many players will be onto their agents to see what is available to them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Yep, I reckon the sale of an 18 year old left back will herald the demise of our 129 year old football club. Is that what i'm saying? No. I'm saying that the loss of an influential and driven figure within the club might mean that one or two in-demand players might start to consider the offers that are coming their way from other clubs. Luke has stated several times that NC has been a big help to his development and would be gutted to see him go, and tweeted words to that effect today. Will he be more susceptible to the big money offers that'll be chucked at him from Top 4 clubs now? I think he'd give more thought to it now than he would have done previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 If mopo goes i'd love Nigel to come back. A man who loves the club, not its boss. Still not convinced we've seen the back of NC of course. I am slightly concerned these rumours of a Chinese takeover are true... We've seen what Asian owners do to prem teams... Maybe KL wants to sell to them and Nicola is of no interest to them. Hence faking out from his point of view. We may be shakey for a bit. But the players are in it together and the great team spirit will show through in the end. This was not planned that is for sure, or if it was, cortese will be back in charge. I can't go back to supporting the old dysfunctional saints, if we fall apart again I dread to imagine what it will do for my love of football. Would be a bitter pill to swallow for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Why anyone didn't think SFC was for sale as soon as ML passed away is a little naive. Why should KL want to carry on with this "folly" of her father's, especially if she has no interest at all in football. I suspect that NC might have been tasked with disposing of SFC while at the same time running it in the best possible manner to increase it's value. While he has succeeded on one front, he hasn't on the other. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I think there are a lot of fans that are hugely underestimating how good NC was for our club. Pre NC we were whipping boys who were bullied in to selling our players at huge knock down prices. He came in and has turned us in to a bloody hard working team (not just on the pitch), and we are no longer whipping boys and thanks for for grooming the next Arsenal player for millions under their worth. Don't deny that he did a good job of picking managers but really it was the Liebherr money that stopped us selling our players. And actually Lowe used to do quite a good job of negotiating prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I think there are a lot of fans that are hugely underestimating how good NC was for our club. Pre NC we were whipping boys who were bullied in to selling our players at huge knock down prices. He came in and has turned us in to a bloody hard working team (not just on the pitch), and we are no longer whipping boys and thanks for for grooming the next Arsenal player for millions under their worth. The Chairman is what makes a business tick. The knock on effect of his resignation could be massive and catastrophic. Domino effect anyone? I am seriously worried for the rest of the Window and moving on. This, very much so. Yes, life will go on and it's not the be all and end all... but it could be the end of becoming something special. Instead, we'll probably get an average suit happy to do the minimum required and revert to "type" as a club, selling our best players, aiming for midtable etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 (edited) Better the devil you know and all that, change scares most people and Katrina is an unknown quantity. If she wanted to make a statement she can either sell an asset or since it is now her name on the door buy a 30 mil player to make the noise go away. If I was a billionaire horse wench I know I'd be spunking cash on a stallion attacking midfielder. Whose worth 30mil in that position then ? Edited 15 January, 2014 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingbridgeSaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I don't think we will see any transfers out during the January window. It would be a great statement of intent for KL to come out & say a resounding no to any transfers out whilst we search for a new CEO. This hopefully will produce a stabilising period for us & see us through to the summer when a lot of things will become a lot clearer. For what its worth it really doesn't sound like KL is wanting to sell looking at the press release & once a new chairman is in place I'm presuming she will return to a more "back seat" role as before? I'm just glad we are only 10pts ish from safety at this stage of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I can't see a multi billionaire being over impressed with bids for players she has on long term contracts, especially when it's her lawyers who will be instructed by her. I can see nothing happening in the short term until a CEO is appointed. Pochettino would be better advised to keep his powder dry until the situation clarifies itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I think there are a lot of fans that are hugely underestimating how good NC was for our club. Pre NC we were whipping boys who were bullied in to selling our players at huge knock down prices. Dean Richards? Kevin Davies? Theo? Bale? I guess you have only been a Saints fan for the last five years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 This, very much so. Yes, life will go on and it's not the be all and end all... but it could be the end of becoming something special. Instead, we'll probably get an average suit happy to do the minimum requite and revert to "type" as a club, selling our best players, aiming for midtable etc.. Exactly. For once we were making a good go of showing ambition and building. Now we will revert back to what we otherwise were. Not so fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 You have to wonder why Cortese has left now- especially if top players leave. Did he really care about us or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 There was once a dream that was Rome, you could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish. It was so fragile and I fear that it will not survive the winter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Dean Richards? Kevin Davies? Theo? Bale? I guess you have only been a Saints fan for the last five years? Seriously? We got an arse fecking and Tommy Forecast for Bale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didcot Saint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I think there are a lot of fans that are hugely underestimating how good NC was for our club. Pre NC we were whipping boys who were bullied in to selling our players at huge knock down prices. He came in and has turned us in to a bloody hard working team (not just on the pitch), and we are no longer whipping boys and thanks for for grooming the next Arsenal player for millions under their worth. The Chairman is what makes a business tick. The knock on effect of his resignation could be massive and catastrophic. Domino effect anyone? I am seriously worried for the rest of the Window and moving on. Spot on Sir. We have lost a visionary leader whose plan was actually happening before our very eyes. This is a bad day, very bad and anyone who thinks it's not a big deal is very wide of the mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 It is almost a year since NA left and we went into meltdown and pages of speculation. We couldn't understand it. And like Karma to the skates, here we sit with a heavy dose of Deja Vu. A lot of people in the post NA departure posts ended up looking very stupid. Same is going to happen this time. Time to take a breath, say thankyou Nicola for the past few years of being able to hold our heads high as fans again. And see what the coming days bring. It's happened, we are shocked and stunned, and nothing we speculate rant or rave about is going to make a blind bit of difference other than burning a few Megabytes of Data Storage costs somewhere in the Cloud. Good night all, let's wait and see if this is just a bad nightmare or the start of a really impossible dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Yep. Nothing short of disastrous imo. He had more of a feel for the football than Lowe, more business acumen that Lowe, and wasnt such an attention-seeking. Look round the PL at the sort of trouble we could be in, in a few short weeks... He was Lowe with money and a lesser grasp of the club's history and tradition. Thanks for getting us back to the Premiership and goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stjohn Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Stability and ambition are very comforting things for football fans so this a big blow.However after the initial threat of resignation from cortese it was obvious there was conflict with the owners(whose money saved this citys football club i might add). So we go again. The heartbeat of this club are the youngsters and mean we need not spend silly money trying to compete in the premier league. The policy shouldn't change supporting youth development. The satisfaction of winning a cup,title or european qualification with our kids through all the adversity over the recent years would be immense. So we go again.....i pray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 There was once a dream that was Rome, you could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish. It was so fragile and I fear that it will not survive the winter..... I knew a man once who said, "Death smiles at us all. All a man can do is smile back." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I think there are a lot of fans that are hugely underestimating how good NC was for our club. Pre NC we were whipping boys who were bullied in to selling our players at huge knock down prices. He came in and has turned us in to a bloody hard working team (not just on the pitch), and we are no longer whipping boys and thanks for for grooming the next Arsenal player for millions under their worth. The Chairman is what makes a business tick. The knock on effect of his resignation could be massive and catastrophic. Domino effect anyone? I am seriously worried for the rest of the Window and moving on. Illingsworth just got shot to pieces on Radio 5 for claiming chairmen don't particularly matter and turnover would barely cause a ripple in other clubs like United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Matt Slater @mattslaterbbc57m For latest on Southampton shenanigans, follow @BenSmithBBC he's being bc-ed on all emails leaving St Mary's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hello. New Chairman is K. Liebherr who will appoint Chief Exec. She could surely sanction the sale of a player tomorrow if a good enough opportunity came. Besides, many players will be onto their agents to see what is available to them now. Sorry I didn't know what it meant by her being a non executive chairman, when I looked what that meant i could only find: A non executive chairman does not have any power in the company but may be the majority shareholder or a key adviser to the chairman who holds all the authority ultimately in the company concerned. Therefore just assumed she couldn't act on her own even though she owned the club. Oh dear a lot of players could be gone before we steady the ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Matt Slater @mattslaterbbc57m For latest on Southampton shenanigans, follow @BenSmithBBC he's being bc-ed on all emails leaving St Mary's Well, that wouldn't have happened before. That's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 To be reinvested (in full) or tucked down Liebherr's bra for her own keeping? There in lies the problem, KL's inheritence being locked up in the club, which is an illiquid asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Seriously? We got an arse fecking and Tommy Forecast for Bale. We weren't bullied, we were skint. Original deal was for £10m. The poster I quoted said "huge knockdown prices". Even your "arse-fecking" was seven million quid. If that's a "huge knockdown price" then I think you may need a little perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Matt Slater @mattslaterbbc57m For latest on Southampton shenanigans, follow @BenSmithBBC he's being bc-ed on all emails leaving St Mary's An odd thing to do unless there is something KL wants to make its way into the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Thanks you Nicola, it's been a great journey and he's done an excellent job, good luck for the future. But we are supporters of Southampton FC not Nicola Cortese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Sorry I didn't know what it meant by her being a non executive chairman, when I looked what that meant i could only find: A non executive chairman does not have any power in the company but may be the majority shareholder or a key adviser to the chairman who holds all the authority ultimately in the company concerned. Therefore just assumed she couldn't act on her own even though she owned the club. Oh dear a lot of players could be gone before we steady the ship! Non execs are boardmembers who take non performance based remuneration. They are still board-members with fullpowers she is not CEO, nor is she chair of the board but considering she owns the club I doubt that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I had my reservations about Cortese the man, but you can argue that he was utterly crucial to getting this club to where it is today. Now that he's gone the future direction of this great club is once again a questionable subject. Any Saints fan tonight claiming to be not even a little worried about the future of the club is a fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Dejan Lovren @DejanLovren05 18m Thank you Nicola Cortese for everything . #respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pip Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Different school of thought. Perhaps Katarina really does care about what is HER Club and got fed up with constant stand offs with Nicola. She has stood up to the master negotiator and won. Perhaps things are not so bleak as everyone thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 There in lies the problem, KL's inheritence being locked up in the club, which is an illiquid asset. Markus' estate was worth around €3bn IIRC, £100m (generous estimate as you still have to find someone willing to pay) out of that is a drop in the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Matt Slater @mattslaterbbc57m For latest on Southampton shenanigans, follow @BenSmithBBC he's being bc-ed on all emails leaving St Mary's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Different school of thought. Perhaps Katarina really does care about what is HER Club and got fed up with constant stand offs with Nicola. She has stood up to the master negotiator and won. Perhaps things are not so bleak as everyone thinks. What I don't understand though doesn't the trust own us not Katherina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Thanks you Nicola, it's been a great journey and he's done an excellent job, good luck for the future. But we are supporters of Southampton FC not Nicola Cortese. Agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I wonder if Cortese gets a thank you mention in the programme for the Yeovil game? It would actually be a more fitting tribute if he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Obviously disappointed he has left, and disappointed in the manner as well. He oversaw a dramatic change in fortunes and must be given much of the credit for the huge improvements across the Club. BUT it had to come to an end at some point as with every player, manager, CEO, Chairman & even owner, things don't last forever. This was always going to happen at some point and the Club will survive. I support the Club and always will do. Of course I hope for a great replacement and a continuation of the good times Cortese brought back to the Club, so fingers crossed the short term pain will soon be gone. (PS If some players or the manager use this as an excuse to leave, then fook em, they're not for to wear the shirt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Matt Slater did then come out with this. mattslaterbbc: @M_dubzz I was joking. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Obviously disappointed he has left, and disappointed in the manner as well. He oversaw a dramatic change in fortunes and must be given much of the credit for the huge improvements across the Club. BUT it had to come to an end at some point as with every player, manager, CEO, Chairman & even owner, things don't last forever. This was always going to happen at some point and the Club will survive. I support the Club and always will do. Of course I hope for a great replacement and a continuation of the good times Cortese brought back to the Club, so fingers crossed the short term pain will soon be gone. (PS If some players or the manager use this as an excuse to leave, then fook em, they're not for to wear the shirt). This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Upset your customers at your peril. Any good business man (woman) know that. She will take us all up another notch, no doubt. And red and white stripes do matter.Actions will speak louder than words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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