Dig Dig Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I knew Manji (who hates the thought of his boat being rocked) would shortly be lured from his cave. Bet you're buzzing off this news Duncan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Thought I'd settle back in before the implosion!! What problems are those - to do with me being chased through the streets of Woolston in the hunt for a Pinnacle scapegoat, or my varicose veins? Heard you had some problems around the time of forever saints and someone had to take the password off you for your own good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 That's close to how I see it. I think it's only a matter of (short) time before the family are out of the equation. i hope you are right as if this is the outcome the NC is in for the very long haul and that can only be good for the clubs future imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Would rather have NC with an.other financial backer than KL and not have NC Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Why? KL will find another suit to free spend her money.... Give any Chairman a bottomless pit of cash and he will make changes and be deemed a success - ask him to work within a budget and you will get to see how "successful" they really are. Nicola has proved he can be a success when the going is good (who couldn’t!) he has also shown me that he has no stomach for the fight and clearly doesn’t rise to a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Well put it this way, if (that might be a big one) we were up for sale, I am not sure how many better propositions there are at the moment (although happy to be accused of wearing rose tinted glasses). Looking around the PL, Everton and Villa might be, but would they be for sale and for how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Why? KL will find another suit to free spend her money.... Give any Chairman a bottomless pit of cash and he will make changes and be deemed a success - ask him to work within a budget and you will get to see how "successful" they really are. Nicola has proved he can be a success when the going is good (who couldn’t!) he has also shown me that he has no stomach for the fight and clearly doesn’t rise to a challenge. Who would you bring in then to replace both Cortese and Pochettino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 at last what we've all wanted Lawrie McMoneybags as Chairman,MLT DOF, Fanny Benali manager, fanontheboard, official club historian. Run by a fans Trust. As Bearsy says we can all pledge £100 (all cheques made out to Mr L. McMenemy). Liberate the car park. Viola we are a Care In The Community Peoples Club. I knew Manji (who hates the thought of his boat being rocked) would shortly be lured from his cave. And he forgot to mention the return of our local-celeb-on-pitch-announcer he's so fond of. I've got a couple of mates who work on Paul Allen's yacht. Will keep you updated on it's location and if it starts heading for the Solent. Shouldn't we be looking out for a top-of-the-range Sunseeker with a Chinaman at the helm these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Farmer Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Heard you had some problems around the time of forever saints and someone had to take the password off you for your own good? You're thinking of Tristen. I set up 4ES. I liked banning people but drew a line at banning myself. I've always had a 5 year plan to keep out of the limelight, but I've had an ‘irretrievable breakdown’ with my bowls partner so got a bit more free time this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Solent Sport reporting he will be gone in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Why? KL will find another suit to free spend her money.... Give any Chairman a bottomless pit of cash and he will make changes and be deemed a success - ask him to work within a budget and you will get to see how "successful" they really are. Nicola has proved he can be a success when the going is good (who couldn’t!) he has also shown me that he has no stomach for the fight and clearly doesn’t rise to a challenge. Who says that he has had a 'bottomless pit'? Maybe he has worked within the budget set. Many players have said that the have joined (or stayed) due to NC and NC alone. Including MP. No stomach for the fight? How can you justify that comment? What has he done to suggest that? Sent from my GT-N5110 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Solent Sport reporting he will be gone in the next few days. Are you sure we haven't got all our wires crossed? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25741182 [h=1]Hull City: Assem Allam's threat to quit the club angers fans' group[/h] Hull City chairman Assem Allam has been accused of showing a "lack of respect" after threatening to quit his role if he cannot change the club's name. Allam, 74, says he will leave "within 24 hours" if his application to alter the name to Hull Tigers is not backed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Solent Sport reporting he will be gone in the next few days. Should be an interesting weekly Press conference tomorrow then from Pochettino... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I knew Manji (who hates the thought of his boat being rocked) would shortly be lured from his cave. As have you. What would you like to happen ? Oh and why would I want the boat rocked ? Although I am sure the "Dark Forces" are rubbing their hands with glee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 15 January, 2014 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10937549.Cortese_on_the_brink/?ref=var_0 Nicola Cortese is on the brink of quitting Saints. The Daily Echo has been told that the executive chairman has suffered an ‘irretrievable breakdown’ in relations with the Liebherr estate who own the club. In addition, sources close to the top of the club have today indicated that Cortese’s departure could come within a matter of days rather than at the end of the season. The reason for the breakdown revolves around still largely unresolved issues from when Cortese almost went in the summer. Back then an interim agreement was struck over the future of the club, and Cortese’s contract, which convinced both parties to agree a deal to keep the former Swiss banker at St Mary’s. Discussions over a long term strategy for the club to replace the interim agreement have been ongoing but there appears to be some way between the two parties. That is prompting Cortese to again consider his future. The Daily Echo has been told that even if the Liebherr’s agreed to all of his plans it may still be too late to convince Cortese to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hi all. I have just read this thread from start to finish and have seen nothing of a rumour I heard at the Burnley match recently. At the time I thought nothing of it, but given recent developments there may be (or maybe not) something to it. I was told that the guy who owns Sunseeker (official team partner, I believe) are lining up to take over the club from the Liebherr family. There was a sticking point over the valuation that was holding things up though. At the time I shrugged it off as terrace talk and took it with a pinch of salt. Like I said though, this is a rumour I heard and it may be absolutely nothing. That said, I thought it may be relevant to the thread so shared it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 And he forgot to mention the return of our local-celeb-on-pitch-announcer he's so fond of. I believe he has some personal issues to sort out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Groundhog day Manji, the farmer , whose next to appear Al De Man ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Just driven Juvenile Unit #2 down to dentist. F*cking Liebherr crane right in front of me at the lights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hi all. I have just read this thread from start to finish and have seen nothing of a rumour I heard at the Burnley match recently. At the time I thought nothing of it, but given recent developments there may be (or maybe not) something to it. I was told that the guy who owns Sunseeker (official team partner, I believe) are lining up to take over the club from the Liebherr family. There was a sticking point over the valuation that was holding things up though. At the time I shrugged it off as terrace talk and took it with a pinch of salt. Like I said though, this is a rumour I heard and it may be absolutely nothing. That said, I thought it may be relevant to the thread so shared it. The Chairman of Dalian Wanda (the parent company) Wang Jianlin, is the richest man in China witgh a 14bn dollar fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Groundhog day Manji, the farmer , whose next to appear Al De Man ? Lifelongsaint? Saint David? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hi all. I have just read this thread from start to finish and have seen nothing of a rumour I heard at the Burnley match recently. At the time I thought nothing of it, but given recent developments there may be (or maybe not) something to it. I was told that the guy who owns Sunseeker (official team partner, I believe) are lining up to take over the club from the Liebherr family. There was a sticking point over the valuation that was holding things up though. At the time I shrugged it off as terrace talk and took it with a pinch of salt. Like I said though, this is a rumour I heard and it may be absolutely nothing. That said, I thought it may be relevant to the thread so shared it. I don't think Sunseeker are owned by a "guy", they are owned by a Chinese conglomerate company... Dalian Wanda Group Corporation Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hi all. I have just read this thread from start to finish and have seen nothing of a rumour I heard at the Burnley match recently. At the time I thought nothing of it, but given recent developments there may be (or maybe not) something to it. I was told that the guy who owns Sunseeker (official team partner, I believe) are lining up to take over the club from the Liebherr family. There was a sticking point over the valuation that was holding things up though. At the time I shrugged it off as terrace talk and took it with a pinch of salt. Like I said though, this is a rumour I heard and it may be absolutely nothing. That said, I thought it may be relevant to the thread so shared it. Sunseeker is now owned by a Chinese company (Dalian Wanda Group) bought them out last year from a Irish private equity firm who got it in 2010 I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Many players have said that the have joined (or stayed) due to NC and NC alone. Including MP. Those comments depend entirely on the questions asked to provoke them. If they're appearing on the OS, it's entirely possible that one of the questions asked is "so who persuaded you to join/stay?", to which the obvious answer is the chairman, as he conducts most of the negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hi all. I have just read this thread from start to finish and have seen nothing of a rumour I heard at the Burnley match recently. At the time I thought nothing of it, but given recent developments there may be (or maybe not) something to it. I was told that the guy who owns Sunseeker (official team partner, I believe) are lining up to take over the club from the Liebherr family. There was a sticking point over the valuation that was holding things up though. At the time I shrugged it off as terrace talk and took it with a pinch of salt. Like I said though, this is a rumour I heard and it may be absolutely nothing. That said, I thought it may be relevant to the thread so shared it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/engineering/8787808/Sunseeker-yachts-returns-to-an-even-keel.html Some insight into Sunseeker. Draw from that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Well feck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Seems pretty straightforward to me. It's always been Cortese's objective to own the club. In his opinion (correctly) the club has a lower value if he goes than it does if he remains at the helm. He wants (again rightly) to pay the lower valuation. The idiots in suits aka merchant bankers that are advising KL have told her they can get her the higher value. Cortese is proving his point. He doesn't play to lose. 'Bye 'bye Katherina. Nail, Head, BANG. Couldn't of put it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Seems pretty straightforward to me. It's always been Cortese's objective to own the club. In his opinion (correctly) the club has a lower value if he goes than it does if he remains at the helm. He wants (again rightly) to pay the lower valuation. The idiots in suits aka merchant bankers that are advising KL have told her they can get her the higher value. Cortese is proving his point. He doesn't play to lose. 'Bye 'bye Katherina. This, let's hope NC wins because unlike the usual plonkers on here who don't understand football or business to we will be buggered if NC leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hi all. I have just read this thread from start to finish and have seen nothing of a rumour I heard at the Burnley match recently. At the time I thought nothing of it, but given recent developments there may be (or maybe not) something to it. I was told that the guy who owns Sunseeker (official team partner, I believe) are lining up to take over the club from the Liebherr family. There was a sticking point over the valuation that was holding things up though. At the time I shrugged it off as terrace talk and took it with a pinch of salt. Like I said though, this is a rumour I heard and it may be absolutely nothing. That said, I thought it may be relevant to the thread so shared it. I think that would go down as just about the coolest company ownership ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Sunseeker is now owned by a Chinese company (Dalian Wanda Group) bought them out last year from a Irish private equity firm who got it in 2010 I believe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalian_Wanda_Group And interestingly Since 2011, Dalian Wanda has been the name sponsor of the Chinese Super League football league.[8] From 1994 to 2000, it was the primary sponsor for the Dalian Shide F.C. (which was named Dalian Wanda FC at the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 15 January, 2014 Author Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I don't think Sunseeker are owned by a "guy", they are owned by a Chinese conglomerate company... Dalian Wanda Group Corporation Limited. Yeah and the "guy" who actively runs the Dalian Wanda Group is the richest man in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I don't think Sunseeker are owned by a "guy", they are owned by a Chinese conglomerate company... Dalian Wanda Group Corporation Limited. A Chinese company eh? Do they also own an oil rig per chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 I don't think Sunseeker are owned by a "guy", they are owned by a Chinese conglomerate company... Dalian Wanda Group Corporation Limited. Ok, "guy" was probably the wrong word. Maybe I should have said owners. Its all semantics at the end of the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Those comments depend entirely on the questions asked to provoke them. If they're appearing on the OS, it's entirely possible that one of the questions asked is "so who persuaded you to join/stay?", to which the obvious answer is the chairman, as he conducts most of the negotiations. Some are, some aren't. It's clear that a lot of our better players are at the club in a large part because of the progress we have made under NC and they feel that with him at the helm good things will happen. No doubting all areas of the club would suffer major upheaval if he does leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 You know it's serious when Cortese speaks to the echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Those comments depend entirely on the questions asked to provoke them. If they're appearing on the OS, it's entirely possible that one of the questions asked is "so who persuaded you to join/stay?", to which the obvious answer is the chairman, as he conducts most of the negotiations. Vey niave to think that a NC exit wouldn't have a significant impact on players and their belief that we can offer them what they want to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Heard a rumour a few weeks back that we were being sold for circa £300m but it was just a rumour but source quite reliable, I have no idea if our club is worth that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalian_Wanda_Group And interestingly Since 2011, Dalian Wanda has been the name sponsor of the Chinese Super League football league.[8] From 1994 to 2000, it was the primary sponsor for the Dalian Shide F.C. (which was named Dalian Wanda FC at the time). Help me Wanda... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Heard you had some problems around the time of forever saints and someone had to take the password off you for your own good? I never knew it was that easy. What's your password, hypo? I've already tried "idefinitelyhaveagirlfriend". All lower case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hi all. I have just read this thread from start to finish and have seen nothing of a rumour I heard at the Burnley match recently. At the time I thought nothing of it, but given recent developments there may be (or maybe not) something to it. I was told that the guy who owns Sunseeker (official team partner, I believe) are lining up to take over the club from the Liebherr family. There was a sticking point over the valuation that was holding things up though. At the time I shrugged it off as terrace talk and took it with a pinch of salt. Like I said though, this is a rumour I heard and it may be absolutely nothing. That said, I thought it may be relevant to the thread so shared it. I don't think Sunseeker are owned by a "guy", they are owned by a Chinese conglomerate company... Dalian Wanda Group Corporation Limited. Yeah and the "guy" who actively runs the Dalian Wanda Group is the richest man in China. From yesterday... Chinese property developer Dalian Wanda Group, known in recent times as the deep-pocketed buyer of Western assets including a U.S. movie theater chain, a British yacht maker and a London hotel, isn’t finished with its shopping spree. http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/01/14/wanda-still-has-plenty-of-cash-to-burn/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Help me Wanda... It's all falling into place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 God I hope so, really don't want to lose Cortese...could call it "A wish called Wanda". I'll get me coat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 From yesterday... http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2014/01/14/wanda-still-has-plenty-of-cash-to-burn/ Oh, go on then..... Arm twisted.... They'll do.... Wanda, which is one of a handful of large but unlisted property developers in China, still has plenty of cash to burn: The company said over the weekend at its annual meeting that its revenue jumped 31% on-year to hit 186.6 billion yuan ($30.9 billion) in 2013. That marked the eighth consecutive year its revenue rose by more than 30%, the company said in a statement on its website that 2013. To date, Wanda said it has 380 billion yuan worth of assets world-wide and has opened 85 malls and 54 hotels across China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Yeah and the "guy" who actively runs the Dalian Wanda Group is the richest man in China. Yeah but surely if they're looking to buy a football club they'd buy one local to their company, step forward Poole Town, ready made for promotion through the football pyramid to become the next major football force on the South Coast!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Vey niave to think that a NC exit wouldn't have a significant impact on players and their belief that we can offer them what they want to achieve. People seem to be under a very odd belief that players sign for a club or remain at a club solely because of the chairman, rather than because of any combination of the facilities, the other players, the coaching staff, the money on offer and the likelihood of career progression and sporting success. If Cortese goes - and, let's face it, he will eventually, whether it's now or at some point in the future - then as long as whoever remains at the club can offer enough of those "features", players will continue to want to play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 It's all falling into place..... Can we have some Jamie Lee pics? Works on match days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Jianlin Wang Jianlin (Chinese: 王健林; pinyin: Wáng Jiànlín; born 1954) is a Chinese billionaire.[1] He is the Chairman of the Dalian Wanda Group, one of China's largest real estate developers, and also the world's largest operator of movie theaters after the purchase of AMC Entertainment Holdings for US$ 2.6 billion in 2013.[2][3] In 2013 Forbes ranked him the 128th richest person in the world, with US$ 8.6 billion.[2] In August 2013, he is listed as the wealthiest person in China with a net worth of US$ 14.2 billion by Bloomberg.[4] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 The sunseeker deal would make (a tiny eeny weeny ) bit of sense - as they have said recently that they were looking at building a new 'ship' yard in soton as their plant in Poole couldn't be expanded to build the really large boats for which demand is increasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 People seem to be under a very odd belief that players sign for a club or remain at a club solely because of the chairman, rather than because of any combination of the facilities, the other players, the coaching staff, the money on offer and the likelihood of career progression and sporting success. If Cortese goes - and, let's face it, he will eventually, whether it's now or at some point in the future - then as long as whoever remains at the club can offer enough of those "features", players will continue to want to play for us. This basically. The club's pr firm have done a job on some of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 corporate colours are blue, so blue shirts coming soon. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 The Southampton Dragons in our brand new mega-dome playing in blue as the owner's favourite colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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