Smirking_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Thanks for confirming. He wasnt allowed tickets for his friends for a sold out game, not entirely sure how there is a massive issue there really, ok, being a club legend he probably should have been allowed but not that worried. Cortese vs the ex legends is one massive PR cock up that could have been handled better but they are all as bad as each other.
Saint Garrett Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 One of my clients once described Nicola as a monoploy player that started with £15,000 while all other player had the regular £1,500 Guess its much easier to do deals when you're loaded and can afford to waste a few grand here n there. Will Milan allow the same? Our net spend on transfers is circa £70m + spending £14 million on Gaston while selling Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain for £12m??? Ramirez's cost gone up again? We'll have paid £20m for him in the summer! Chamberlain went for £15m (a kid who's played a handful of games in L1) and we signed Gaston (a full international) for £11.8m.
aintforever Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 He wasnt allowed tickets for his friends for a sold out game, not entirely sure how there is a massive issue there really, ok, being a club legend he probably should have been allowed but not that worried. Cortese vs the ex legends is one massive PR cock up that could have been handled better but they are all as bad as each other. It wasn't sold out, there were thousands of empty seats.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Ramirez's cost gone up again? We'll have paid £20m for him in the summer! Chamberlain went for £15m (a kid who's played a handful of games in L1) and we signed Gaston (a full international) for £11.8m. £20 million? Are you including his wages? We paid £13,376,000 for Gaston + his £1 million signing on fee. Add his 4 year contract = £13,520,000. Thats £28 million + bonuses. Not sure how you got to £20m? Alex was sold for £12,144,000 btw Anyway back to Nicola...
Olallana Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 £20 million? Are you including his wages? We paid £13,376,000 for Gaston + his £1 million signing on fee. Add his 4 year contract = £13,520,000. Thats £28 million + bonuses. Not sure how you got to £20m? Alex was sold for £12,144,000 btw Anyway back to Nicola... So to compare it correctly and fair. How much money do we save on not paying wages to Alex then? That got to be in there for compareness in the right and fair way I would presume..
Saint Garrett Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 More made up ******** from Bournemouth/Glasgow
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 More made up ******** from Bournemouth/Glasgow http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/fc-southampton/transfers/verein_180.html
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 So to compare it correctly and fair. How much money do we save on not paying wages to Alex then? That got to be in there for compareness in the right and fair way I would presume.. How much was Alex on? 17 year old...
Olallana Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 How much was Alex on? 17 year old... According to papers at least £45k/week from summer 2012. (same time as when we signed Gaston)
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 According to papers at least £45k/week from summer 2012. (same time as when we signed Gaston) We were never paying him £45k a week were we?
Saint Garrett Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Gaston- £11.8m http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/southampton-close-in-on-118m-gaston-ramirez-8056873.html Chamberlain - £15m http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/14448089
Olallana Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 We were never paying him £45k a week were we? You dont think he and his dad would´ve known his value when we made the step up to PL?
SNSUN Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 If Cortese goes to Milan, I'm going to put a horses head in his bed. See how he likes it.
shurlock Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 One of my carers once described Nicola as a monoploy player that started with £15,000 while all other player had the regular £1,500 Guess its much easier to do deals when you're loaded and can afford to waste a few grand here n there. Will Milan allow the same? Our net spend on transfers is circa £70m + spending £14 million on Gaston while selling Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain for £12m??? Fixed
Bewildered Posted 14 January, 2014 Author Posted 14 January, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 3m Future of #SaintsFC chairman Nicola Cortese in doubt with some at club fearing he could leave at end of season. More @BBCSport
Saint Garrett Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 @BenSmithBBC: Future of #SaintsFC chairman Nicola Cortese in doubt with some at club fearing he could leave at end of season. More @BBCSport I bloody hope not? Maybe would fit in with the rumours of Pochettino also going at the end of the season? I'm worried!
whelk Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Sun says he is going to walk regardless of any offer
SuperSAINT Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Ben Smith @BenSmithBBC 3m Future of #SaintsFC chairman Nicola Cortese in doubt with some at club fearing he could leave at end of season. More @BBCSport Ah, crap. Not this stuff again. Ben Smith has VERY close ties with Cortese.
St Chalet Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 He is just another head of department remember.
hypochondriac Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Well he is going to leave eventually. Let's see what transpires and where we end up if it's true.
trousers Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25736264 Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese's future is in doubt, with leading figures at the club fearing he could leave at the end of the season. Cortese has yet to make a final decision on his position, but there is a growing sense of unease at the club's Staplewood training ground. The former Swiss banker has been a key figure in the Premier League club's rise from the depths of League One. Manager Mauricio Pochettino has said he would leave if Cortese departed. "I would not understand staying in this role if Nicola was not here," he said last season. "The person who actually called me from the start, told me about the project and put the faith in me, was Nicola." Southampton declined to comment when contacted by BBC Sport.
Saint Garrett Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Isn't Ben Smith the one who reported he'd leave last season? BBC is a bit more reputable than some rumour in the sun...
Graffito Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 He wrote this. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25420261
Appy Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 The knock on effect of him leaving is the most concerning thing.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Mopo showing loyalty again Manager Mauricio Pochettino has said he would leave if Cortese departed.
Wiggles31 Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Cortese is always very good at responding to such rumours so lets wait and see. Would be a terrible loss.
Colinjb Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Mopo showing loyalty again That quote was from last summer.
Saint Charlie Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 If he does go it would see big changes. MP would go and a host of the leading players. But can't see why he would want out at this point?
scotty Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 It wouldn't amaze me. Perhaps he's decided the club can't be taken any farther up the table into the hallowed lands of the CL, so there's no point continuing. Would also make sense if AC Milan really want him (+ probably MP.)
S-Clarke Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 It's pretty clear something has been in the pipeline for a while. No smoke without fire and all that. Would fully expect a new manager too, and would fully explain the MP stories from a few weeks back. Of course, it could just be another clever ploy to use the media - but I doubt it, not 2 seasons in a row. Something is brewing for sure. Not sure where it would leave us ownership wise, we'd probably be sold, but I'd like to think NC would leave us with a bit of assurance in terms of our future and not just leave us in the lurch (I don't think he will) This club is always minutes away from meltdown and change, has never been any different in my years supporting them.
TK8267 Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 It wouldn't amaze me. Perhaps he's decided the club can't be taken any farther up the table into the hallowed lands of the CL, so there's no point continuing. Would also make sense if AC Milan really want him (+ probably MP.) Seedorf is new manager at AC Milan
trousers Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 That quote was from last summer. He already knows that...
Saint Garrett Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Would probably have something to do with Katherina too. Ties in with us not spending any more money this season. Maybe last season Katherina told Cortese he'd have one season more then she wants to sell up.
Zurichsaint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Can't help but think this might be connected to the January transfer window... "If I don't get the backing from the Liebherrs, I'm leaving". Doesn't mean it won't happen, but would be annoying if we have this every transfer window...
trousers Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 If he does go it would see big changes. MP would go and a host of the leading players. But can't see why he would want out at this point? Same reason as end of last season I would suspect... Owners not on same wavelength...?
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Ben Smith is one of those journalists the club works with on things. That they are using him with this story makes me think they don't mind this story being 'out there'. I'll wait and see what happens but even if there is some credibility to the story that Ben Smith is involved in the story suggests to me that there may be ulterior motives.
Bewildered Posted 14 January, 2014 Author Posted 14 January, 2014 The knock on effect of him leaving is the most concerning thing. Yeah, considering that it appears he has created a dynamic at the club where the player's loyalty is to Nicola Cortese as opposed to Southampton Football Club.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 If a player doesnt want to be here.... If a member of staff doesnt want to be here... :wave:
doubleonothing Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 @BBCSport: Southampton chairman Nicola Cortese's future in doubt amid fears he could leave at end of season reports @BenSmithBBC http://t.co/0rx86AclS4 BBC sport on the ball as always
hypochondriac Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 If he leaves we will probably be sold and I would imagine there would be a number of buyers. We will be left still in the prem so a much better position than previously. Saints are bigger than any one person and it's just another dip in the roller coaster that is supporting saints.
Saint Garrett Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Yeah, considering that it appears he has created a dynamic at the club where the player's loyalty is to Nicola Cortese as opposed to Southampton Football Club. Yup. We'd be royally fecked.
S-Clarke Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 If he leaves we will probably be sold and I would imagine there would be a number of buyers. We will be left still in the prem so a much better position than previously. Saints are bigger than any one person and it's just another dip in the roller coaster that is supporting saints. I think that's a fair view. We're going to be one hell of a buy for someone. So much potential at this club.
skintsaint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25736264 not sure either way if true or not, going to wait and see.....seems a bit vague at the minute.
Olallana Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Would rather it to be Liebherr´s leaving and Cortese finding new owners to push the club even more forward... Time will tell.
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