hackedoff Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Probably being a core component of 2 promotions, I'd have thought. You'd have to be a bit simple to think he did anything but a good job for us in the lower leagues. 19 league goals and 12 assists over 2 seasons, often as a bit part player. First, I am not simple. Second, reference to the words " lower leagues ", what has he done in the PL ? Sod all, the same as Lee, but given MANY more chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 First, I am not simple. Second, reference to the words " lower leagues ", what has he done in the PL ? Sod all, the same as Lee, but given MANY more chances. Ah right. So your original statement of "Unlike Guly who came, tried, failed and is unfortunately given yet more chances." was only intended to cover his Premier League appearances, was it?? Riiiiiiiight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 (edited) First, I am not simple. Second, reference to the words " lower leagues ", what has he done in the PL ? Sod all, the same as Lee, but given MANY more chances. He has been a good squad option at Premier League level when games have needed to be closed down. After his work to get us here I cannot understand why he is on the end of so much disdain. He has made errors but equally he has produced some wonderful and crucial goals, a genuine bargain. Edited 14 January, 2014 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Unlike Guly who came, tried, failed and is unfortunately given yet more chances. Hmm When did he fail ? Perhaps his chances came as he did a fair job, works hard in different positions, gave us vital assists and goals through our journey and maybe proved himself more on the training ground then Lee ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Shame. I was a fan. It looked like there was genuine potential there - a good fledgling partnership with SRL, which injury curtailed, and he didn't come back the same player (plus we had moved on collectively). I wish him all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Thanks for the contribution you made in our rise to where we are now Tadanari ,such as the wonder goal against Derby at SMS & the assist for Rickie's goal at Leeds. Wish him well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 I was there for his goal against Derby! Cracking goal it was too, felt at the time he would push on and become a decent player for us after that, but it was pretty soon after that he got that bad foot injury if I recall correctly. He never really got another chance after that. I was there for that, in The Chapel. He hit it, we knew it was in the net we STILL ducked. Good luck to him. Thought he could make it, but possibly like others before him lost something with the injury, I guess we will never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 First, I am not simple. Second, reference to the words " lower leagues ", what has he done in the PL ? Sod all, the same as Lee, but given MANY more chances. Got an assist up at Stoke iirc. Was very good in the last game he started at Spurs. Have no complaints whatsoever about Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Got an assist up at Stoke iirc. Was very good in the last game he started at Spurs. Have no complaints whatsoever about Guly. Yep, for Rickie's first with a cross I believe. He worked himself into the ground that day along with everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Thanks for the contribution you made in our rise to where we are now Tadanari ,such as the wonder goal against Derby at SMS & the assist for Rickie's goal at Leeds. Wish him well Also won us a pen at Watford and set up Lallana's goal against Barnsley with a good run down the byline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Ah right. So your original statement of "Unlike Guly who came, tried, failed and is unfortunately given yet more chances." was only intended to cover his Premier League appearances, was it?? Riiiiiiiight. Where he's also not let anyone down when be called upon. Not a first team player now, wont even make the match day squad when everyone is fit but there are far too many bangwagon jumping helmets who just bleat out "he's sh*t" without actually engaging their brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Where he's also not let anyone down when be called upon. Not a first team player now, wont even make the match day squad when everyone is fit but there are far too many bangwagon jumping helmets who just bleat out "he's sh*t" without actually engaging their brain. Even in the West Brom game when he came on there were ironic cheers when he got the ball and passed it off. The amount of simpletons that attend games at St. Mary's really defies belief on a game by game basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Was this a Nigel signing? Transfer committee? Nicola? Whoever it was, its another expensive one to forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Even in the West Brom game when he came on there were ironic cheers when he got the ball and passed it off. The amount of simpletons that attend games at St. Mary's really defies belief on a game by game basis. ...Speaking probably for myself, but I genuinely cheered him out of enthusiasm, was quite pleased to see him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 (edited) Was this a Nigel signing? Transfer committee? Nicola? Whoever it was, its another expensive one to forget. He was a free transfer..... Edited 14 January, 2014 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Even in the West Brom game when he came on there were ironic cheers when he got the ball and passed it off. The amount of simpletons that attend games at St. Mary's really defies belief on a game by game basis. I remember watching a game last season where Guly tried playing a pass to someone that was intercepted which was met with outcry, shouts of abuse from the crowd and "Guly you're sh*t" from a bloke a few rows back. About two minute later Lallana did a similar thing and it was applauded as unlucky and a good idea. Unfortunately there are so many helmets that go to games that whatever Guly does is going to be wrong. Quite what he's done to deserve it is beyond me. He was very good first half of the championship season and got something like 8 goals and 9 assists before christmas, then the dinlows got on his back and he became the villan of the piece. All i see is a decent player who has done a job wheever he's been asked to and never let anyone down. He's no world beater but he's played a big part in our progress up the leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 He was a free transfer..... £2 million in basic wage over two years (20k per week) + a further 500k - £1m to pay up his contract. He played 7 times for us! Thats circa £430,000 per game!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 £2 million in basic wage over two years (20k per week) + a further 500k - £1m to pay up his contract. He played 7 times for us! Thats circa £430,000 per game!!! I heard it was £25K a week, in the Championship. Just rumours, of course..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 £2 million in basic wage over two years (20k per week) + a further 500k - £1m to pay up his contract. He played 7 times for us! Thats circa £430,000 per game!!! You assume. And what wages would you expect a footballer to earn in this day and age? Of course he wasn't cheap compared to you or I trying to kick a ball. His assist v Leeds arguably helped us to the three points that kept West Ham at bay, the team that came up with us paid for themselves many times over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 I heard it was £25K a week, in the Championship. Just rumours, of course..... Ok... Best case = £430,000 per game, worst case £500,000 per game Either way = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Ok... Best case = £430,000 per game, worst case £500,000 per game Either way = I wonder how much Lee Barnard, Johnno Quick and Aaron Martin are costing on a per game basis. I'm sure you could rustle something up Glasgow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Ok... Best case = £430,000 per game, worst case £500,000 per game Either way = Is that calculation before or after a possible insurance has payed the wages during his injury time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 I wonder how much Lee Barnard, Johnno Quick and Aaron Martin are costing on a per game basis. I'm sure you could rustle something up Glasgow..... Too much mate. Barnard is on £20k a week i understand. Johnno and Aaron im not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 People forget that Lee was preferred over Sharp for a run of games before he got injured. I'm not saying he was much good for Saints over the term of his stay however he still made a contribution to a team that got promoted and enabled the club to secure the Premier League money as well. You can focus on how much he earned as much as you want but compared to club income now it's been justified. Makes sense to let him go early if his spot in the pecking order has been taken by Gallagher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 I remember watching a game last season where Guly tried playing a pass to someone that was intercepted which was met with outcry, shouts of abuse from the crowd and "Guly you're sh*t" from a bloke a few rows back. About two minute later Lallana did a similar thing and it was applauded as unlucky and a good idea. Unfortunately there are so many helmets that go to games that whatever Guly does is going to be wrong. Quite what he's done to deserve it is beyond me. He was very good first half of the championship season and got something like 8 goals and 9 assists before christmas, then the dinlows got on his back and he became the villan of the piece. All i see is a decent player who has done a job wheever he's been asked to and never let anyone down. He's no world beater but he's played a big part in our progress up the leagues. Same thing happens to Gaston, has to do everything 100% perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Is that calculation before or after a possible insurance has payed the wages during his injury time? Minus any merchandise he helped shift over in Japan, Glasgow will have all the figures. Ill wait for the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Minus any merchandise he helped shift over in Japan, Glasgow will have all the figures. Ill wait for the answer. No idea on merchandise, cant imagine it was much. Happy for someone to prove me wrong I think it was an experiment, one that didnt work out Im not having a go at Lee, its Nicola that dishes out the contracts. I just remember what happened to us before... Look after the pennies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Same thing happens to Gaston, has to do everything 100% perfectly. Not so sure - get a sense people are desperate for Gaston to do well and hoping for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 No idea on merchandise, cant imagine it was much. Happy for someone to prove me wrong Just make it up as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 Isn't the real issue we got promoted to the PL ahead of schedule? If we had followed the 5 year plan we would have seen a lot more of Lee and Sharp and a few others maybe - that's life we achieved the PL ahead of schedule so we have a number of players on longish contracts that are now surplus to requirements whilst we had to buy in more talent to compete in the PL. Good luck to him I hope he can secure is place in the Japanese team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 The good news in this story is that the coaches must be convinced that Sam Gallagher is capable of being Premier League quality. Another step on the road to Academy talent in the first team over bought-in foreign imports should be welcome. No offence to Chung and his injury setbacks were hard to overcome, so good luck to him in finding a new club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 14 January, 2014 Share Posted 14 January, 2014 I doubt we got any merchandise revenue from Japan, they don't even consider Chung to be Japanese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Guly's done nowt wrong as far as I'm concerned. Unlike many, I don't need a whipping boy. He hasn't done much right either though for the last few years... On subject, Guly was the one who injured Lee. Training accident so I was led to believe? Can't be helped though, these things happen. Just very unfortunate that it wasn't the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 He hasn't done much right either though for the last few years... On subject, Guly was the one who injured Lee. Training accident so I was led to believe? Can't be helped though, these things happen. Just very unfortunate that it wasn't the other way around. I thought it was an injury on holiday ? Waterski ? But it makes perfect sense if it was guly..... Or Ramirez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Hearing that Guly maybe heading same way as Lee.... watch this space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Good luck to Mr Lee looked like he had real potential when he first joined us and was unlucky with injuries and how quickly we have progressed, had we spent another season in the Championship I suspect he would have done very well for us at that level st least. Hope he finds a J-League team and his form quickly so he can play at the world cup. The Guly debate is endless and circular it seems with some people refusing to accept that he did a great job for us during our rise up the leagues and still offers an ok squad alternative at this level, yes he's not a world beater but he is a decent pro who has never moaned and always gves his best even if sometime that best is a little below the required level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 yes he's not a world beater but he is a decent pro who has never moaned and always gves his best even if sometime that best is a little below the required level. Not true. There have been several occasions when he's looked like he couldn't give a toss and just lumbers around not doing much. Notably the home game against the skates when the only cheer he got was when he actually jumped for a ball for the first time. Come to think of it when was the last time anyone saw Guly sprint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Not true. There have been several occasions when he's looked like he couldn't give a toss and just lumbers around not doing much. Notably the home game against the skates when the only cheer he got was when he actually jumped for a ball for the first time. Come to think of it when was the last time anyone saw Guly sprint? Classic footballer in not running round like headless idiot = not trying British football fan rant. Were you one of those who slated Rasiac for his terrible work rate and moaned that he did nothing for 90 minutes bu score a tap in or two? When will football fans stop equating running around and flying into tackles with actually being good at the game? The way some people bang on you'd think we would be better off with a team full of David Pruttons who try hard and clap the fans while hoping nobody notices a complete lack of ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 15 January, 2014 Share Posted 15 January, 2014 Classic footballer in not running round like headless idiot = not trying British football fan rant. Were you one of those who slated Rasiac for his terrible work rate and moaned that he did nothing for 90 minutes bu score a tap in or two? When will football fans stop equating running around and flying into tackles with actually being good at the game? The way some people bang on you'd think we would be better off with a team full of David Pruttons who try hard and clap the fans while hoping nobody notices a complete lack of ability. Not at all. I certainly wouldn't put myself in the Guly bashing camp either. He did a job for us and in league one and as a Saints supporter I'm very grateful for that. I'm simply saying that in my opinion after watching him in the championship (and his few brief appearances this season) he doesn't seem all that bothered any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 Anyone know what Chungy is up to now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 Anyone know what Chungy is up to now? Urawa Red Diamonds in the J-League. Currently J League leaders with 4 games left. 6 goals, 14 starts, 16 subs. Not exactly outstanding, but maybe will get another trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 Anyone know what Chungy is up to now? Well, he's still at Urawa Red Diamonds - who he signed for after his release. They're currently top of the J-League after 30 games, with 58 points - 3 clear of Gamba Osaka. 4 games of the season left. He's played 30 games and scored 6 goals this season. He's their 2nd top scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 I was accused of being racist by someone on here because I said I didn't rate him. Given the way his career here panned out and his current stats in the J league is seems dorkish the racist was actually bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 Well, he's still at Urawa Red Diamonds - who he signed for after his release. They're currently top of the J-League after 30 games, with 58 points - 3 clear of Gamba Osaka. 4 games of the season left. He's played 30 games and scored 6 goals this season. He's their 2nd top scorer. Looks very similar to what I posted. Good that we both have found the same data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 I was accused of being racist by someone on here because I said I didn't rate him. Given the way his career here panned out and his current stats in the J league is seems dorkish the racist was actually bang on. Pathetic way to cover your arse, "Turdish". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 I was accused of being racist by someone on here because I said I didn't rate him. Given the way his career here panned out and his current stats in the J league is seems dorkish the racist was actually bang on. Tbh I always agreed with you, he was never good enough. Sure he was a lovely bloke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 Tbh I always agreed with you, he was never good enough. Sure he was a lovely bloke though. He was the man of the moment when he arrived because he scored a decent goal and ran around a lot, so I can see why he was popular. But some of the praise he got was beyond sense. People saying he was going to be a star of the premier league and a great player, also that he was better than the players around him who weren't good enough to pick up his runs. Anyone sensible could see he was a decent championship player but little more and so it was proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 Pathetic way to cover your arse, "Turdish". I bet you loved the song for him didn't you Patricia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 Well, he's still at Urawa Red Diamonds - who he signed for after his release. They're currently top of the J-League after 30 games, with 58 points - 3 clear of Gamba Osaka. 4 games of the season left. He's played 30 games and scored 6 goals this season. He's their 2nd top scorer. Cheers. Amazed a team thats top has a second highest scorer with 6 in 30! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 26 October, 2014 Share Posted 26 October, 2014 I bet you loved the song for him didn't you Patricia. ooooo Tadanari He's a striker He does martial arts He eats lots of sushi and he f**king hates pompey he throws a great party and he's good at karate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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