pap Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 Anyone heard of this? There's a private member's bill in Parliament seeking to rename the August bank holiday to Margaret Thatcher Day. One of my mates stuck a petitions link up in Facebook which is predictably calling on people to sign up to prevent this from happening. The bill gets its second reading on January 17th. http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/margaretthatcherday.html Think it's slightly mental myself. Makes me wonder what's next. Cromwell Day, anyone?
hypochondriac Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 It would be too controversial. Days like that should be saved for figures who are indisputably considered great rather than Thatcher who is considered great by many but loathed by a few.
Hatch Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 lets cancel Christmas as religion is not a big thing anymore and no one under 20 knows who Jesus is. A big week long celebration around Thatchers Day would be a lot better.
jjsaint Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 I would love for this to happen, just because of the controversy it would stir up...
Colinjb Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 The will never pass. She was such a divisive woman.
Minty Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 I would love for this to happen, just because of the controversy it would stir up... Never quite understood this mentality... why would anyone *want* to see controversy and the associated issues it would bring? Irrespective of your opinion on Thatcher, I think everyone recognises that it could be hugely divisive and only contribute to further problems. What would the country as a whole stand to gain?
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 Never quite understood this mentality... why would anyone *want* to see controversy and the associated issues it would bring? Irrespective of your opinion on Thatcher, I think everyone recognises that it could be hugely divisive and only contribute to further problems. What would the country as a whole stand to gain? Agreed
pap Posted 13 January, 2014 Author Posted 13 January, 2014 Never quite understood this mentality... why would anyone *want* to see controversy and the associated issues it would bring? Irrespective of your opinion on Thatcher, I think everyone recognises that it could be hugely divisive and only contribute to further problems. What would the country as a whole stand to gain? Isn't it an opportunist form of schadenfreude?
pap Posted 13 January, 2014 Author Posted 13 January, 2014 If we get a day off, I'm all for it. Well, Guy Fawkes gets a day, after all. Bit weird that one.
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 This thread reminds me of the bit in Charlie Brookers 2013 Wipe on MT. Divisive, divisive, divisive.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 If we get a day off, I'm all for it. It's not an extra day, it's a renaming of one we get already.
badgerx16 Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 Well, Guy Fawkes gets a day, after all. Bit weird that one. Was a public holiday until 1859.
pap Posted 13 January, 2014 Author Posted 13 January, 2014 It's not an extra day, it's a renaming of one we get already. Indeed, with one small change. Effigies of Thatcher to be burnt on that day by those that opposed her. Actual poor people burnt by Thatcher's supporters. I realise that this isn't a very constructive addition to the debate.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 Indeed, with one small change. Effigies of Thatcher to be burnt on that day by those that opposed her. Actual poor people burnt by Thatcher's supporters. I realise that this isn't a very constructive addition to the debate. What's not to like?
Hamilton Saint Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 Isn't it an opportunist form of schadenfreude? Or a revelatory form of weltanschauung?
hutch Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 Was a public holiday until 18.59. I've usually finished work by then anyway
Just a Fan Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 Thought there was already a day/night when her supporters can remember her. It's called Halloween,
Hockey_saint Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 To be fair (This is controversial...but it is true unfortunately) Jesus's birth gets a public holiday each year and and dare I say millions upon millions have died in his name throughout history, so why ever not?.....I'm not calling Maggie Jesus before anyone says.
Just a Fan Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 To be fair (This is controversial...but it is true unfortunately) Jesus's birth gets a public holiday each year and and dare I say millions upon millions have died in his name throughout history, so why ever not?.....I'm not calling Maggie Jesus before anyone says. She certainly wasn't Jesus. I've always thought of her as being on the other side tbh.
trousers Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 (edited) ... Edited 13 January, 2014 by trousers Time travel
TopGun Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 I like the point made above that a Thatcher Day would be universally recognised by riots and strikes. These uber right-wing idiots who come up with such ideas in Parliament really ought to be spending their time doing genuine work that helps the nation.
Saint_clark Posted 13 January, 2014 Posted 13 January, 2014 Well, Guy Fawkes gets a day, after all. Bit weird that one. Originally a day of thanks giving for the failed assassination plot, nothing weird in that.
Hamilton Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Well, Guy Fawkes gets a day, after all. Bit weird that one. It's an example of taking a pagan celebration (Samhain) and institutionalizing it into the dominant (Christian) cultural tradition. Part of that process requires shifting it by several days, in order to hide its pagan origins (November 1st to November 5th, in this situation; and Christmas is on December 25th, instead of December 21st - the winter solstice).
pap Posted 14 January, 2014 Author Posted 14 January, 2014 Originally a day of thanks giving for the failed assassination plot, nothing weird in that. Bit weird that we still celebrate it now. Have you seen Parliament recently?
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Bit weird that we still celebrate it now. Have you seen Parliament recently? It's just a reminder, lest they forget...
pap Posted 14 January, 2014 Author Posted 14 January, 2014 It's an example of taking a pagan celebration (Samhain) and institutionalizing it into the dominant (Christian) cultural tradition. Part of that process requires shifting it by several days, in order to hide its pagan origins (November 1st to November 5th, in this situation; and Christmas is on December 25th, instead of December 21st - the winter solstice). Well, it's one way to get people along to your nascent religious congregations. You could argue that Christmas itself has been supplanted with the annual zenith of consumerism.
Hamilton Saint Posted 14 January, 2014 Posted 14 January, 2014 Well, it's one way to get people along to your nascent religious congregations. You could argue that Christmas itself has been supplanted with the annual zenith of consumerism. Correct - and, in the reverse process, this pagan festival (called Boxing Day Sales) has been moved one day away from December 25th. to indicate its irreligious nature!
PhilippineSaint Posted 15 January, 2014 Posted 15 January, 2014 Indeed, with one small change. Effigies of Thatcher to be burnt on that day by those that opposed her. Actual poor people burnt by Thatcher's supporters. I realise that this isn't a very constructive addition to the debate. I like it the burn the witch the B!tch was the first person to put me out of work. I was a milk monitor at school when she stopped the free milk.
Noodles34 Posted 15 January, 2014 Posted 15 January, 2014 It would be too controversial. Days like that should be saved for figures who are indisputably considered great rather than Thatcher who is considered great by many but loathed by a few. Loathed by a few...... Maybe you are joking, or maybe you are one of her apologists or maybe.... I think people on here are right about you. You don't live in the real world and just seem to be another Turkish, lol, sad and lonely, bless.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 15 January, 2014 Posted 15 January, 2014 My mate and I already celebrate it. April 8th. And a great old p155 up it's going to be.
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