Batman Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 seriously, how long can Moyes last if he was a foreign manager, the press would be hounding him out (like AvB)
SNSUN Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 My God, Old Trafford emptied quick! Moyes hasn't become a bad manager overnight, but perhaps the United job was out of his league. Time will tell.
Batman Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Don't especially like him but still don't think it's all his fault. It's such an average squad. Take RVP and Rooney out and there's just so little quality. true BUT it did win the league by 11 points that is one heck of a turn around to being way off the pace now. probably wont even get 4th
nta786 Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Could have been us... It could have been, but I think it would've been unlikely to beat Chelsea... Mourinho always knows how to play against Poch's tactics.
SNSUN Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Don't especially like him but still don't think it's all his fault. It's such an average squad. Take RVP and Rooney out and there's just so little quality. I'd take Hernandez in a heartbeat but he rarely gets a look in for United. If they can sign Mata, it's a possibility they could save their season, either by the most unlikely of European Cup wins or by scraping into 4th, which again is unlikely.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 My Uncle (Sunderland fan) went bat**** mental when they won it, hugging, crying and generally going mental. Now the beers are out. Who said the cups mean nothing...
Batman Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 My Uncle (Sunderland fan) went bat**** mental when they won it, hugging, crying and generally going mental. Now the beers are out. Who said the cups mean nothing... They have own nothing yet They won't either
SNSUN Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 They have own nothing yet They won't either After the season they've had, I bet none of the Sunderland fans thought they'd be going to Wembley. Strangely, if they survive the drop, I'm sure they'd view this season as a success. Although I can see a Swansea-Bradford type scoreline in the final...
Griffo Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Can't begin to imagine how good it would feel being in that away end winning to get into a final tonight with Saints. I'm sure the joy that finishing in the top half will be just as good as the feeling of winning tonight and going to Wembley though!
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Mata is top quality, but not sure it's what they need most. Kagawa doesn't get in much, and i'd take him at Saints very gladly. They have no central midfield platform to build on. You can have a great creator or striker but if there's nothing behind them you'll be in trouble and they get overrun all the time. Jones is a CB, Fletcher isn't fit, Cleverley is poor and Carrick slow and injury prone. Worst options I've seen them have seen Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba! Amazed they didn't spend big on 2 CMs. I agree. I think Moyes knew this, or the club too really. What is quite worrying for them was their inability to get the players they wanted in. That's not really been a problem for them before.
S-Clarke Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Mata is top quality, but not sure it's what they need most. Kagawa doesn't get in much, and i'd take him at Saints very gladly. They have no central midfield platform to build on. You can have a great creator or striker but if there's nothing behind them you'll be in trouble and they get overrun all the time. Jones is a CB, Fletcher isn't fit, Cleverley is poor and Carrick slow and injury prone. Worst options I've seen them have seen Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba! Amazed they didn't spend big on 2 CMs. I think Mata is the type of player they're lacking, they don't really have a true number 10 in there. But they also need some top class support behind him, at least 1 new CM...but probably 2. I'd also say they need a new top, top, top CB. and a new Top class left back, experienced and mature. They don't need a complete rebuild, but they're lacking 3-4 top class players in that spine.
benjii Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Mata is top quality, but not sure it's what they need most. Kagawa doesn't get in much, and i'd take him at Saints very gladly. They have no central midfield platform to build on. You can have a great creator or striker but if there's nothing behind them you'll be in trouble and they get overrun all the time. Jones is a CB, Fletcher isn't fit, Cleverley is poor and Carrick slow and injury prone. Worst options I've seen them have seen Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba! Amazed they didn't spend big on 2 CMs. Somewhat alarmingly, Moyes seemed to think Fellaini was a top quality CM.
Saints foreva Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Hopefully we stop United from getting a top four space on the final day of the season, it would be perfect revenge for 2005.
The Kraken Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 seriously, how long can Moyes last if he was a foreign manager, the press would be hounding him out (like AvB) As long as possible. Watching them tailspin is hilarious. Man United fans need some humility and a sense of perspective, their sense of entitlement is overwhelming.
S-Clarke Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Hopefully we stop United from getting a top four space on the final day of the season, it would be perfect revenge for 2005. I think their top 4 challenge will be long way finished by then, 5th is the highest they can get this year in my opinion. Liverpool and Spurs are just a level above them squad wise at this moment in time.
Batman Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 They need to spend £100m to catch up to city or Chelsea today. Seeing as those two clubs will spend loads in the summer, united will need to spend £200m just to catch up
Northernsaint Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 No one will eulogise about 8th in years to come. That is now the minimum expectation. A cup win is silverware you know a trophy. Photos, memories forever. You cant bottle a season a dig it out with the kids.
Turkish Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 I'd swap every single bit of emotion those Sunderland fans felt tonight for just one shot, one chance to finish 8th instead if 9th this season.
Hatch Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Who would be our 5 penalty takers ? Lambert JRod Adam Davis Cork ??
Hatch Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Man City will score at least 5 in the final, probably more.
skintsaint Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Man City will score at least 5 in the final, probably more. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/nov/10/sunderland-manchester-city-premier-league
lickierambert Posted 22 January, 2014 Posted 22 January, 2014 Who would be our 5 penalty takers ? Lambert JRod Adam Davis Cork ?? Not sure about Adam or Cork. Swap for Osvaldo and Morgan. I'd back Lovren and Boruc to score as well-the latter with a paneka!
SNSUN Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Who would be our 5 penalty takers ? Lambert JRod Adam Davis Cork ?? Are set piece takers better at penalties? If so I suppose you could say JWP could be one, Fox?
Hamilton Saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Are set piece takers better at penalties? If so I suppose you could say JWP could be one, Fox? David Beckham had his embarrassing moments at the penalty spot!
doubleonothing Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Guessing if Man City get Champions League (pretty much a cert), Sunderland get Europa League next season?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 We should saunter into the next round, even with our 2nd string out. But the cup usually turns that logic on irs head. I cannot imagine we will risk 1st team players with the Arse on Tuesday, so the road to Wembley might be somewhat slippery on saturday.
DuncanRG Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Guessing if Man City get Champions League (pretty much a cert), Sunderland get Europa League next season? They'd have to win it. Only FA Cup finalists get into Europe without winning it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Saint_Tony Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 We should saunter into the next round, even with our 2nd string out. But the cup usually turns that logic on irs head. I cannot imagine we will risk 1st team players with the Arse on Tuesday, so the road to Wembley might be somewhat slippery on saturday. Yeah it would be stupid to risk players in a competition that we have a chance of winning. Let's save them for Arsenal, we might just stay in 9th place if we beat them!
rick1976.4.38 Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Yeah it would be stupid to risk players in a competition that we have a chance of winning. Let's save them for Arsenal, we might just stay in 9th place if we beat them! totally agree,lets all celebrate finishing 9th ffs play our first team and get to Wembley and try and win some silverware,its about trophies,not what position you finish in the league id rather a cup final and relegation,than celebrating,ala arsenal and hoping to finish 4th. for those of us that saw us win in 76 there is no better feeling coys
Toomer Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Moyes = dead man walking Many on here wanted Moyes as our manager when he was still at Preston.
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 My Uncle (Sunderland fan) went bat**** mental when they won it, hugging, crying and generally going mental. Now the beers are out. Who said the cups mean nothing... Yeah, but they have to play Citeh at Wembley in front of the whole planet.......... With Brown & O'Shea in their defence..........
rick1976.4.38 Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Yeah, but they have to play Citeh at Wembley in front of the whole planet.......... With Brown & O'Shea in their defence.......... but the point being,even with those defenders,they are in a cup final at Wembley,win or lose f'ing brilliant I for one,wish it was saints there,underdogs do beat dead on certs,76?
skintsaint Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 People were saying the same when Citeh had Wigan in the final, didn't turn out too well for the Citizens.
buctootim Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Many on here wanted Moyes as our manager when he was still at Preston. He's still a good manager its just that the Man U squad is mostly past it. Ferguson choosing to retire this season was no co-incidence.
melmacian_saint Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 Sunderland are officially the 2-1 team. 2-1 against us, Chelsea, Man United at home and away, and on penalties. Expect no other result if they are to win at Wembley
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 He's still a good manager its just that the Man U squad is mostly past it. Ferguson choosing to retire this season was no co-incidence. In fairness they did walk the league last season. They cannot be that past it!
Toomer Posted 23 January, 2014 Posted 23 January, 2014 He's still a good manager its just that the Man U squad is mostly past it. Ferguson choosing to retire this season was no co-incidence. I think the Fergy effect has gone from UTD.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 January, 2014 Author Posted 25 January, 2014 We're all going to Wembley, And we'll really shake 'em up, When we win the F.A. cup, 'Coz Southampton are the greatest football team We are taking this FA cup serious and I really think this could be our year! How amazing was last time! COYR This is our year!! Keep the faith
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 January, 2014 Author Posted 26 January, 2014 5.35 Andros Townsend and his Dad Thanks... Found this - Fifth Round Draw Numbers 1 Sunderland 2 Cardiff City 3 Southampton 4 Charlton Athletic 5 Brighton & Hove Albion 6 Nottingham Forest or Preston North End 7 Hull City 8 Sheffield Wednesday 9 Arsenal 10 Stevenage or Everton 11 Wigan Athletic 12 Chelsea or Stoke City 13 Manchester City 14 Liverpool 15 Swansea City 16 Sheffield United or Fulham Ties to be played on the weekend of 15 and 16 February 2014
Saint Garrett Posted 26 January, 2014 Posted 26 January, 2014 Hope Liverpool man city arsenal Chelsea all play eachother and we get a champ team at home. Coys
Charlie Wayman Posted 26 January, 2014 Posted 26 January, 2014 Nice idea but Arsenal will beat us 1-0 in the final
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 January, 2014 Author Posted 26 January, 2014 Nice idea but Arsenal will beat us 1-0 in the final Id take that... Just a wembley trip and 8th place (or higher) and i will be happy
Dr Who? Posted 26 January, 2014 Posted 26 January, 2014 I am going for Everton v Southampton (semi final) sorry I mean final. I do have Everton down for the FA Cup winners though this season.
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