rocknrollman no2 Posted 16 December, 2008 Share Posted 16 December, 2008 Wolves kids have been able to play together for a while. If we could that once it would be great...But as soon as we are losing two games in a row, more than 50% calls for the manager's head. We are on the right track and I do hope Rupert have the gut to stand by his own decision. Do you really think that being 21st and already relying on other teams results is on the right track sir fred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 December, 2008 Share Posted 16 December, 2008 Wolves kids have been able to play together for a while. If we could that once it would be great...But as soon as we are losing two games in a row, more than 50% calls for the manager's head. We are on the right track and I do hope Rupert have the gut to stand by his own decision. Hang on, are you saying our manager changes the team simply because he is feeling the pressure from the fans? How does "the fans calling for the managers head" mean we can't have a settled team? We've chopped and changed the team non stop all season to the point of complete ineffectual confusion, but that is entirely the fault of the manager we have, a manager utterly incapable of achieving anything at this level. And anyway, there has been surprisingly little "calling for the managers head", considering the circumstances. Calling for the fu ck ing chairman's head on a silver platter, maybe. We are patently not "on the right track". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_fred Posted 16 December, 2008 Share Posted 16 December, 2008 Do you really think that being 21st and already relying on other teams results is on the right track sir fred? As far as I see it, this season was about two things for me, firstly get the squad cost back in balance and thereby get the club back on financial track. Secondly survive. At the moment we above relegation and I can gurantee that the salaries has gone down. We might have been able to do this with signing older pros from lower leagues as well but that would have as big gamble as the path we choose. And the kid path will mean that the team will improve over the coming years, so yes I do think we are on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 16 December, 2008 Share Posted 16 December, 2008 seconded but he would not work with RL interfearing, probably end up chining him!! So probably worth hiring for that eventuality alone. that would be funny Even funnier if you know what 'chining' actually means (and if you don't, find a good butcher and ask there!). :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 16 December, 2008 Share Posted 16 December, 2008 As far as I see it, this season was about two things for me, firstly get the squad cost back in balance and thereby get the club back on financial track. Secondly survive. At the moment we above relegation and I can gurantee that the salaries has gone down. We might have been able to do this with signing older pros from lower leagues as well but that would have as big gamble as the path we choose. And the kid path will mean that the team will improve over the coming years, so yes I do think we are on the right track. Hope you are right of course sir fred,but i guess we will see on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 December, 2008 Share Posted 18 December, 2008 If he's that much more expensive than JP we should sell one of Lallana or Surman to fund him, even get rid of the ****ty loans. We need a proper manager who knows what it takes to stay in this league. I think it likely thats already a done deal, but it wont be to fund a new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 Can't wait til BD gets a new job so threads like this stop. Every damn club when they lose a few seems to start droning on about Davies. Why him? Will they all the west brom manager when he's sacked because he won this league, Davies didn't. I thought Davies was alright, and I mean, just alright, until the disaster he made of Derby's start. Appalling signing for a premiership campaign and no belief that they could win. They were utter **** in their promotion year, just a horrible dirty side that scraped through the playoffs. I'd rather have no promotion than that as it won't get you anywhere in the long term. Better than Burley yes, but nowhere near as good as many other CCC managers. How many managers have achieved promotion now? Must be a hell of a lot, should we want all of them? One of the smartest posts I've read on here in a while. I was starting to lose hope that we had any supporters with half a brain cell left having read the drivel on this website for the last 30 minutes. I would actually dispose of my season ticket if Billy Davies were to take charge. I would also re-think my support for Rupert Lowe and join the vocal section of our supporters that despise him. It would be the single worst decision ever taken in the history of this club - I cannot stand the guy. We're in a bit of a bad run but lets not hit the panic button. The same fans calling for JP's head will be the same ones complaining about the high manager turnover rate. Lets ride it out with JP, lets give a manager a couple of seasons and see what he can do. I really don't think we're that far away from being a mid table team, or higher next season. Two wins and a draw from the next three - Win v Forest, Win @ Plymouth and a Draw v Reading. COYR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 One of the smartest posts I've read on here in a while. I was starting to lose hope that we had any supporters with half a brain cell left having read the drivel on this website for the last 30 minutes. I would actually dispose of my season ticket if Billy Davies were to take charge. I would also re-think my support for Rupert Lowe and join the vocal section of our supporters that despise him. It would be the single worst decision ever taken in the history of this club - I cannot stand the guy. We're in a bit of a bad run but lets not hit the panic button. The same fans calling for JP's head will be the same ones complaining about the high manager turnover rate. Lets ride it out with JP, lets give a manager a couple of seasons and see what he can do. I really don't think we're that far away from being a mid table team, or higher next season. Two wins and a draw from the next three - Win v Forest, Win @ Plymouth and a Draw v Reading. COYR... If you think appointing a manager who in his three full seasons at this level has delivered three play off finishes, two play off final appearances and one play off final victory would be "the worst decision ever taken in the history of this football club" you're off your tiny head. You must have missed the appointments of Gray, Wigley and Dodd and Gorman the decision of Lowe to come back, the decision to let Pearson go, the decision to appoint a couple of Dutch non entities and lest we forget the decision to give the job of creating life-size bronze statue of our club figurehead to a woodcarver who specialises in small scale animal commisions and had never create a life size bronze of anything. Billy Davies might not be everyone's cup of tea, but his appointment would be understandable, justified and to many, bloody welcome. Being that I very much doubt you were campaigning for the appointment of JP before he was appointed (I seriously doubt you had ever heard of him) but now are happy to commit to giving him two seasons just on the strength of he is the incumbent (it can't be on results or performances), I am assuming you would give the same support to Billy were he to get the job? So if you are demanding of us blind support of whoever the manager is, you'd have to offer blind support to Billy, wouldn't you? So what are you moaning about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 Can't wait til BD gets a new job so threads like this stop. Every damn club when they lose a few seems to start droning on about Davies. Why him? Will they all the west brom manager when he's sacked because he won this league, Davies didn't. I thought Davies was alright, and I mean, just alright, until the disaster he made of Derby's start. Appalling signing for a premiership campaign and no belief that they could win. They were utter **** in their promotion year, just a horrible dirty side that scraped through the playoffs. I'd rather have no promotion than that as it won't get you anywhere in the long term. Better than Burley yes, but nowhere near as good as many other CCC managers. How many managers have achieved promotion now? Must be a hell of a lot, should we want all of them? the trouble is no one wants to give him a job it seems,i wonder why but you summed him up.hes had some success at preston but so did burley who more success at this level,but i always thought davies had limited ability and it showed big time, with derby in the premiership . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 Of course Jan could be sand bagging with the team selections knowing that come Jan 1st it will be like Debenhams 1 day spectacular ( or in our case 1 month) he knows full well that all the better players in the team are going to be picked off leaving him with bugger all to play with, so stumble along til the end of January then push on: Do people not find it strange that as a team we can sometimes play like Brazil up to the final third then it all goes to pot when it come to that scoring third. As I have said before if we get shot of Jan and bring in BD where the hell is the money going to come from to bring in the players who suit his style? Where in the acadamy/reserves is the big ugly bruiser of a player that Billy likes? When are people finally going to wake up and smell the coffee, who in thier right mind is going to come to a club that is teetering on the edge of a possible abyss, I would imagine that Jan has a very cute contract that suits our means so as long as we can weather this storm no one is going to be in any hurry to change manager. Hey we can't be that bad if 30,000 are turning up on Saturday................. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 December, 2008 As I have said before if we get shot of Jan and bring in BD where the hell is the money going to come from to bring in the players who suit his style? Where in the acadamy/reserves is the big ugly bruiser of a player that Billy likes? big ugly bruisers like barnes, oakley, teale the only bruisers he had were darren moore and steve howard...ironically, the two very types we are saying we need right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 If you think appointing a manager who in his three full seasons at this level has delivered three play off finishes, two play off final appearances and one play off final victory would be "the worst decision ever taken in the history of this football club" you're off your tiny head. You must have missed the appointments of Gray, Wigley and Dodd and Gorman the decision of Lowe to come back, the decision to let Pearson go, the decision to appoint a couple of Dutch non entities and lest we forget the decision to give the job of creating life-size bronze statue of our club figurehead to a woodcarver who specialises in small scale animal commisions and had never create a life size bronze of anything. Billy Davies might not be everyone's cup of tea, but his appointment would be understandable, justified and to many, bloody welcome. Being that I very much doubt you were campaigning for the appointment of JP before he was appointed (I seriously doubt you had ever heard of him) but now are happy to commit to giving him two seasons just on the strength of he is the incumbent (it can't be on results or performances), I am assuming you would give the same support to Billy were he to get the job? So if you are demanding of us blind support of whoever the manager is, you'd have to offer blind support to Billy, wouldn't you? So what are you moaning about? Couldn't have put it better myself. Did you have any luck fixing your boiler with that banana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 Wolves kids have been able to play together for a while. If we could that once it would be great...But as soon as we are losing two games in a row, more than 50% calls for the manager's head. We are on the right track and I do hope Rupert have the gut to stand by his own decision. I have heard very little - actually nothing at all - in the way of anti-JP sentiment at games although I didn't travel to Burnley. There's a big difference with Wolves kids' though - their youngsters are a mixture of the cream of homegrown plus selected buy-ins from CCC rivals like Ebanks-Blake and non-league (Kightly). The pick of ours is Surman and Lallana and I'm ont even sure we are getting anywhere near the best out of the latter at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 One of the smartest posts I've read on here in a while. I was starting to lose hope that we had any supporters with half a brain cell left having read the drivel on this website for the last 30 minutes. I would actually dispose of my season ticket if Billy Davies were to take charge. I would also re-think my support for Rupert Lowe and join the vocal section of our supporters that despise him. It would be the single worst decision ever taken in the history of this club - I cannot stand the guy. We're in a bit of a bad run but lets not hit the panic button. The same fans calling for JP's head will be the same ones complaining about the high manager turnover rate. Lets ride it out with JP, lets give a manager a couple of seasons and see what he can do. I really don't think we're that far away from being a mid table team, or higher next season. Two wins and a draw from the next three - Win v Forest, Win @ Plymouth and a Draw v Reading. COYR... And here is you bemoaning whether many posters on here have half a brain cell and you come out with claptrap like this? You obviously don't appreciate irony or the number of times that you have contradicted yourself. You would totally change your stance on Lowe and give up your ST just because he might appoint a manager you despise? What a knee-jerk reaction based against the background of saying that a manager should be given a couple of seasons to see what he could do. Where was the time given to Pearce? And just because you can't stand Davies, stating that it would be the single worst decision in the history of the club is laughable when considered against other major happenings such as the reverse takeover, the Stoneham debacle, Wilde's contribution both in bringing about the original board changes and the current ones. Get some perspective instead of indulging in wild hyperbole. This couple of seasons that you want JP to have; is it totally unconditional? Regardless of whether we get relegated? If not, at what stage should the bizarre experiment be ended? The impression that I get from your post is that if Davies were to be appointed and succeeded in getting us promoted, on the face of it you'd have preferred JP to stay, even if he failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 not knee jerk.....my honest opinion.. JAN OUT Chuckle...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 If you think appointing a manager who in his three full seasons at this level has delivered three play off finishes, two play off final appearances and one play off final victory would be "the worst decision ever taken in the history of this football club" you're off your tiny head. You must have missed the appointments of Gray, Wigley and Dodd and Gorman the decision of Lowe to come back, the decision to let Pearson go, the decision to appoint a couple of Dutch non entities and lest we forget the decision to give the job of creating life-size bronze statue of our club figurehead to a woodcarver who specialises in small scale animal commisions and had never create a life size bronze of anything. Billy Davies might not be everyone's cup of tea, but his appointment would be understandable, justified and to many, bloody welcome. Being that I very much doubt you were campaigning for the appointment of JP before he was appointed (I seriously doubt you had ever heard of him) but now are happy to commit to giving him two seasons just on the strength of he is the incumbent (it can't be on results or performances), I am assuming you would give the same support to Billy were he to get the job? So if you are demanding of us blind support of whoever the manager is, you'd have to offer blind support to Billy, wouldn't you? So what are you moaning about? LOL I was ****ing myself after reading "Mad Tom's" post and was going to reply, so thanks for saving me the effort. I just loved the hypocritical rants throughout the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 If you think appointing a manager who in his three full seasons at this level has delivered three play off finishes, two play off final appearances and one play off final victory would be "the worst decision ever taken in the history of this football club" you're off your tiny head. You must have missed the appointments of Gray, Wigley and Dodd and Gorman the decision of Lowe to come back, the decision to let Pearson go, the decision to appoint a couple of Dutch non entities and lest we forget the decision to give the job of creating life-size bronze statue of our club figurehead to a woodcarver who specialises in small scale animal commisions and had never create a life size bronze of anything. Billy Davies might not be everyone's cup of tea, but his appointment would be understandable, justified and to many, bloody welcome. Being that I very much doubt you were campaigning for the appointment of JP before he was appointed (I seriously doubt you had ever heard of him) but now are happy to commit to giving him two seasons just on the strength of he is the incumbent (it can't be on results or performances), I am assuming you would give the same support to Billy were he to get the job? So if you are demanding of us blind support of whoever the manager is, you'd have to offer blind support to Billy, wouldn't you? So what are you moaning about? I wasn't sure which one of you morons to quote but I'll go with CB seeing as though they so eloquently tried to pipe me down. Firstly, I'm a realist. We are where we deserve to be, in the Championship. We're not a Premiership side and haven't had Premiership quality for years. The quality of football played by the majority of sides in the Championship is appalling. Believe me when I tell you, there are Sunday teams down Millbrook Rec that display more attractive football than some of the teams in the Championship. Billy Davies knows one way to play football, and its that same appalling football I've just mentioned. I was at Pride Park for the playoff semi final a couple of years back and they must have hit over 100 long balls to Steve Howard that night. It was dreadful. He used the same tactic at Preston. It may well be effective in the Championship but it will last two minutes in the Premiership (as evidenced by Derby's plight when they went up that year).. In my post I said I would give up my season ticket if he became manager - I really couldn't stand to watch that drivel every week, regardless of whether we scratched wins out with it. Personal preference. Also, CB, where in my post was I moaning? Cretin. I'm doing quite the opposite, I'm supporting JP, RL and the current regime which I think is doing ok (equal to last year) and will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 I wasn't sure which one of you morons to quote but I'll go with CB seeing as though they so eloquently tried to pipe me down. Firstly, I'm a realist. We are where we deserve to be, in the Championship. We're not a Premiership side and haven't had Premiership quality for years. The quality of football played by the majority of sides in the Championship is appalling. Believe me when I tell you, there are Sunday teams down Millbrook Rec that display more attractive football than some of the teams in the Championship. Billy Davies knows one way to play football, and its that same appalling football I've just mentioned. I was at Pride Park for the playoff semi final a couple of years back and they must have hit over 100 long balls to Steve Howard that night. It was dreadful. He used the same tactic at Preston. It may well be effective in the Championship but it will last two minutes in the Premiership (as evidenced by Derby's plight when they went up that year).. In my post I said I would give up my season ticket if he became manager - I really couldn't stand to watch that drivel every week, regardless of whether we scratched wins out with it. Personal preference. Also, CB, where in my post was I moaning? Cretin. I'm doing quite the opposite, I'm supporting JP, RL and the current regime which I think is doing ok (equal to last year) and will get better. Can we please have a constructive discussion without using terms like these? We all have different views, that's why it's called a forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 The quality of football played by the majority of sides in the Championship is appalling. Believe me when I tell you, there are Sunday teams down Millbrook Rec that display more attractive football than some of the teams in the Championship. I agree, the quality is poor but most of them seem to be scoring more goals than we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 I wasn't sure which one of you morons to quote but I'll go with CB seeing as though they so eloquently tried to pipe me down. Firstly, I'm a realist. We are where we deserve to be, in the Championship. We're not a Premiership side and haven't had Premiership quality for years. The quality of football played by the majority of sides in the Championship is appalling. Believe me when I tell you, there are Sunday teams down Millbrook Rec that display more attractive football than some of the teams in the Championship. Billy Davies knows one way to play football, and its that same appalling football I've just mentioned. I was at Pride Park for the playoff semi final a couple of years back and they must have hit over 100 long balls to Steve Howard that night. It was dreadful. He used the same tactic at Preston. It may well be effective in the Championship but it will last two minutes in the Premiership (as evidenced by Derby's plight when they went up that year).. In my post I said I would give up my season ticket if he became manager - I really couldn't stand to watch that drivel every week, regardless of whether we scratched wins out with it. Personal preference. Also, CB, where in my post was I moaning? Cretin. I'm doing quite the opposite, I'm supporting JP, RL and the current regime which I think is doing ok (equal to last year) and will get better. As far as I remember, Preston had a reputation for playing a passing game under Davies. And I'm pretty sure the same applied at Motherwell. Saying this may well make me a moron or indeed a cretin, but it's a risk I'm prepared to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 Yeah you're right. Mawene, Agyemang, Dichio, Lucketti and Dickson Etuhu. All names you'd associate with the beautiful game. Couldn't comment on Motherwell - never seen a Motherwell game, you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 I wasn't sure which one of you morons to quote but I'll go with CB seeing as though they so eloquently tried to pipe me down. Firstly, I'm a realist. We are where we deserve to be, in the Championship. We're not a Premiership side and haven't had Premiership quality for years. The quality of football played by the majority of sides in the Championship is appalling. Believe me when I tell you, there are Sunday teams down Millbrook Rec that display more attractive football than some of the teams in the Championship. Billy Davies knows one way to play football, and its that same appalling football I've just mentioned. I was at Pride Park for the playoff semi final a couple of years back and they must have hit over 100 long balls to Steve Howard that night. It was dreadful. He used the same tactic at Preston. It may well be effective in the Championship but it will last two minutes in the Premiership (as evidenced by Derby's plight when they went up that year).. In my post I said I would give up my season ticket if he became manager - I really couldn't stand to watch that drivel every week, regardless of whether we scratched wins out with it. Personal preference. Also, CB, where in my post was I moaning? Cretin. I'm doing quite the opposite, I'm supporting JP, RL and the current regime which I think is doing ok (equal to last year) and will get better. I love you too. You were moaning about the appointment of a manager we haven't appointed and aren't very likely to appoint. And the hypocrisy of you making lots of silly threats if Davies was appointed against this idea that we should blindly support the incumbent manager for two seasons regardless of performance. We're not "doing ok" (equal to last year). We weren't in a relegation battle this time last year we were solid mid table. Preston weren't a long ball team, so you are just stone cold wrong about that. I was at the Derby play off semi too, and it was a bloody entertaining game which both teams contributed too, and Derby won the tie. This small fact of Derby winning seems to stick in the craw of too many Saints fans who drone on about Derby's style to secure some kind of pointless moral victory. Sorry, Derby had Matty Oakley, Giles Barnes and Gary Teale and others - that is not a long ball team. Direct, successful, promoted. This notion they were some pseudo-Wimbledon is just garbage parrotted out by a hand ful of sore loser saints fans who got all offended because Davies celebrated on the pitch when Derby beat us at SMS, like that was a "rude" thing to do. Fair play to him. You can call Davies football (three play off finishes in a row, two finals, one finall victory) "drivel". I call poncing the ball about to zero effect in our own half for hours on end "drivel". I call one home win all season "drivel". I call a striker with less than five league goals to his name as a nailed on starter week in, week out "drivel". I call EIGHT goals in ELEVEN home games "drivel". I call the worst home record in the league and one of the worst GDs in the league "drivel". I call less than a goal a game and less than a point a game all season "drivel". I call a win record showing nothing more than us winning games via the law of averages rather than any run of form "drivel". And, through a quirk of fate I have seen our two best performances this season, so I have seen us at our "best". Seriously, get over yourself, no need for the abuse. The fact is we're not very good and the sooner you realise that our sparkling, glorious entertaining football has frankly been unproductive pitiful rubbish almost all season the better. Davies Davies Davies IN IN IN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 So it's OK to threaten to give up your season ticket if, and it's very remote as a possibility even if JP left, Billy Davies came in yet if you threaten to quit your ST because you don't like the current board - as some posters on here have threatened to do - you're not "getting behind the team" and are not a "real fan". If Rupert insists on using PR companies on here could he at least squander money on some good ones. There have been plants on here in the last fortnight - between 1-10 posts and coming out of nowhere to pick an aggressive fight for the board - without a doubt and they stand out even more than a 7 foot ginger man in MI5 undercover. I would also ask anyone going to the AGM to enquire directly as to whether this is happening again. As for me, I just hope I actually see some goals in the Forest net for a change instead of "Propaganda Football". Cheering a Saints goal keeps the cold out, as does Real ale but sadly I'm probably driving tommorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 I love you too. You were moaning about the appointment of a manager we haven't appointed and aren't very likely to appoint. And the hypocrisy of you making lots of silly threats if Davies was appointed against this idea that we should blindly support the incumbent manager for two seasons regardless of performance. We're not "doing ok" (equal to last year). We weren't in a relegation battle this time last year we were solid mid table. Preston weren't a long ball team, so you are just stone cold wrong about that. I was at the Derby play off semi too, and it was a bloody entertaining game which both teams contributed too, and Derby won the tie. This small fact of Derby winning seems to stick in the craw of too many Saints fans who drone on about Derby's style to secure some kind of pointless moral victory. Sorry, Derby had Matty Oakley, Giles Barnes and Gary Teale and others - that is not a long ball team. Direct, successful, promoted. This notion they were some pseudo-Wimbledon is just garbage parrotted out by a hand ful of sore loser saints fans who got all offended because Davies celebrated on the pitch when Derby beat us at SMS, like that was a "rude" thing to do. Fair play to him. You can call Davies football (three play off finishes in a row, two finals, one finall victory) "drivel". I call poncing the ball about to zero effect in our own half for hours on end "drivel". I call one home win all season "drivel". I call a striker with less than five league goals to his name as a nailed on starter week in, week out "drivel". I call EIGHT goals in ELEVEN home games "drivel". I call the worst home record in the league and one of the worst GDs in the league "drivel". I call less than a goal a game and less than a point a game all season "drivel". I call a win record showing nothing more than us winning games via the law of averages rather than any run of form "drivel". And, through a quirk of fate I have seen our two best performances this season, so I have seen us at our "best". Seriously, get over yourself, no need for the abuse. The fact is we're not very good and the sooner you realise that our sparkling, glorious entertaining football has frankly been unproductive pitiful rubbish almost all season the better. Davies Davies Davies IN IN IN! A complete demolition of Tom's little diatribe. Well executed, point by point without having to resort to abuse. Take a lesson from this Tom. If you're going to label most of the posters who disagree with you as morons or cretins, then you had better argue your corner more sensibly and with a better grasp of the facts, lest it rebounds on you like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 December, 2008 well done CB...saying appointing davies would be the biggest mistake ever by the club whilst being told to blindly support Jan is another example of the lengths people go to stick to their guns...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 I love you too. You were moaning about the appointment of a manager we haven't appointed and aren't very likely to appoint. And the hypocrisy of you making lots of silly threats if Davies was appointed against this idea that we should blindly support the incumbent manager for two seasons regardless of performance. We're not "doing ok" (equal to last year). We weren't in a relegation battle this time last year we were solid mid table. Preston weren't a long ball team, so you are just stone cold wrong about that. I was at the Derby play off semi too, and it was a bloody entertaining game which both teams contributed too, and Derby won the tie. This small fact of Derby winning seems to stick in the craw of too many Saints fans who drone on about Derby's style to secure some kind of pointless moral victory. Sorry, Derby had Matty Oakley, Giles Barnes and Gary Teale and others - that is not a long ball team. Direct, successful, promoted. This notion they were some pseudo-Wimbledon is just garbage parrotted out by a hand ful of sore loser saints fans who got all offended because Davies celebrated on the pitch when Derby beat us at SMS, like that was a "rude" thing to do. Fair play to him. You can call Davies football (three play off finishes in a row, two finals, one finall victory) "drivel". I call poncing the ball about to zero effect in our own half for hours on end "drivel". I call one home win all season "drivel". I call a striker with less than five league goals to his name as a nailed on starter week in, week out "drivel". I call EIGHT goals in ELEVEN home games "drivel". I call the worst home record in the league and one of the worst GDs in the league "drivel". I call less than a goal a game and less than a point a game all season "drivel". I call a win record showing nothing more than us winning games via the law of averages rather than any run of form "drivel". And, through a quirk of fate I have seen our two best performances this season, so I have seen us at our "best". Seriously, get over yourself, no need for the abuse. The fact is we're not very good and the sooner you realise that our sparkling, glorious entertaining football has frankly been unproductive pitiful rubbish almost all season the better. Davies Davies Davies IN IN IN! Excellent post. Now why the hell won't you part with a fiver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 December, 2008 Excellent post. Now why the hell won't you part with a fiver? indeed...he is needed on here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 19 December, 2008 Share Posted 19 December, 2008 The minute Burley left, we should have appointed Davies and tomorrow we would be looking forward to tonking Fulham or Blackburn... Last year, this league was pants, absolute pants. It was there to be won. This year, Wolves, Birmingham and Reading are different sorbet, really they are - consistent, effective and all three are up now in my book. Last year, everyone was ****** and anyone could have gone up. Bloody Crouch I blame for not begging Davies to take over. As for Davies doing badly with Derby in the Premiership?? Not given any money and still did better than Jewell the porn-star!!! Seriously, why is BD still out of work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 The minute Burley left, we should have appointed Davies and tomorrow we would be looking forward to tonking Fulham or Blackburn... Last year, this league was pants, absolute pants. It was there to be won. This year, Wolves, Birmingham and Reading are different sorbet, really they are - consistent, effective and all three are up now in my book. Last year, everyone was ****** and anyone could have gone up. Bloody Crouch I blame for not begging Davies to take over. As for Davies doing badly with Derby in the Premiership?? Not given any money and still did better than Jewell the porn-star!!! Seriously, why is BD still out of work? you answered your own question,if he was so good do,t you think he would have been back in football by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 you answered your own question,if he was so good do,t you think he would have been back in football by now. His record's beyond dispute, and if says he's pretty damn good. In fact, it suggests he's a good bit better than an awful lot of managers currently working. He does seem to be a pretty irascible character, and maybe that scares a few boards off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Does anyone on here, honestly believe that the likes of Billy Davies would entertain working under the self confessed football visionary Rupert Lowe. [ As an aside is John Smith related to Lowe]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 One of the smartest posts I've read on here in a while. I was starting to lose hope that we had any supporters with half a brain cell left having read the drivel on this website for the last 30 minutes. I would actually dispose of my season ticket if Billy Davies were to take charge. I would also re-think my support for Rupert Lowe and join the vocal section of our supporters that despise him. It would be the single worst decision ever taken in the history of this club - I cannot stand the guy. We're in a bit of a bad run but lets not hit the panic button. The same fans calling for JP's head will be the same ones complaining about the high manager turnover rate. Lets ride it out with JP, lets give a manager a couple of seasons and see what he can do. I really don't think we're that far away from being a mid table team, or higher next season. Two wins and a draw from the next three - Win v Forest, Win @ Plymouth and a Draw v Reading. COYR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I wasn't sure which one of you morons to quote but I'll go with CB seeing as though they so eloquently tried to pipe me down. Firstly, I'm a realist. We are where we deserve to be, in the Championship. We're not a Premiership side and haven't had Premiership quality for years. The quality of football played by the majority of sides in the Championship is appalling. Believe me when I tell you, there are Sunday teams down Millbrook Rec that display more attractive football than some of the teams in the Championship. Billy Davies knows one way to play football, and its that same appalling football I've just mentioned. I was at Pride Park for the playoff semi final a couple of years back and they must have hit over 100 long balls to Steve Howard that night. It was dreadful. He used the same tactic at Preston. It may well be effective in the Championship but it will last two minutes in the Premiership (as evidenced by Derby's plight when they went up that year).. In my post I said I would give up my season ticket if he became manager - I really couldn't stand to watch that drivel every week, regardless of whether we scratched wins out with it. Personal preference. Also, CB, where in my post was I moaning? Cretin. I'm doing quite the opposite, I'm supporting JP, RL and the current regime which I think is doing ok (equal to last year) and will get better. Who is this tw*t ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Who is this tw*t ? Tom 28 :smt102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Even Dicky Davies would probably do a better job than JP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 I wasn't sure which one of you morons to quote but I'll go with CB seeing as though they so eloquently tried to pipe me down. Firstly, I'm a realist. We are where we deserve to be, in the Championship. We're not a Premiership side and haven't had Premiership quality for years. The quality of football played by the majority of sides in the Championship is appalling. Believe me when I tell you, there are Sunday teams down Millbrook Rec that display more attractive football than some of the teams in the Championship. Billy Davies knows one way to play football, and its that same appalling football I've just mentioned. I was at Pride Park for the playoff semi final a couple of years back and they must have hit over 100 long balls to Steve Howard that night. It was dreadful. He used the same tactic at Preston. It may well be effective in the Championship but it will last two minutes in the Premiership (as evidenced by Derby's plight when they went up that year).. In my post I said I would give up my season ticket if he became manager - I really couldn't stand to watch that drivel every week, regardless of whether we scratched wins out with it. Personal preference. Also, CB, where in my post was I moaning? Cretin. I'm doing quite the opposite, I'm supporting JP, RL and the current regime which I think is doing ok (equal to last year) and will get better. In case you haven't noticed we are in the Championship and a million miles away from the Premiership. Davies would be ideal, although I'm not sure he'd want to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 Billy Davies is a vile c*nt, and is not welcome at this football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 You're a plastic fan, your opinion counts for **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 20 December, 2008 You're a plastic fan, your opinion counts for **** see you at plymouth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 see you at plymouth... Do you know something i don't:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 20 December, 2008 Share Posted 20 December, 2008 In case you haven't noticed we are in the Championship and a million miles away from the Premiership. Davies would be ideal, although I'm not sure he'd want to come.why not, no one else seems to want to give him a job,so i think he would jump at the chance if they offered it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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