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Brilliant, another short term, short sighted solution by a bloke who doesn't even go! What is the ****ing point of going through the same routine of appointing a manager who will last 2-3 years before the same people start whining? We've got an opportunity to build something that will be great in the long term, if it means ****ty results and possible relegation, so be it. The long term future of the club is far more important than short term gain and then the same old routine.

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Brilliant, another short term, short sighted solution by a bloke who doesn't even go! What is the ****ing point of going through the same routine of appointing a manager who will last 2-3 years before the same people start whining? We've got an opportunity to build something that will be great in the long term, if it means ****ty results and possible relegation, so be it. The long term future of the club is far more important than short term gain and then the same old routine.

 

So relegation is good for the long term future of our club ????? :rolleyes:

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Just shows what it has come to in football if Alex Ferguson took over at Manchester United today he would not have been given the chance to achieve what he has at United it took him 3 1/2 years to achieve anything. Who was our last manager to last more than 3 years, we are in the poo we are in because we have changed managers like the weather.

Billy Davis is not the man we need, hoof and run, rough and tumble players, where is the money going to come from to bring the players in that fit his style of play?

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Just shows what it has come to in football if Alex Ferguson took over at Manchester United today he would not have been given the chance to achieve what he has at United it took him 3 1/2 years to achieve anything. Who was our last manager to last more than 3 years, we are in the poo we are in because we have changed managers like the weather.

Billy Davis is not the man we need, hoof and run, rough and tumble players, where is the money going to come from to bring the players in that fit his style of play?

you talking sense,it seems no one else wants davies in the top 2 divisions except his small fan club on here,i wonder why !

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Brilliant, another short term, short sighted solution by a bloke who doesn't even go! What is the ****ing point of going through the same routine of appointing a manager who will last 2-3 years before the same people start whining? We've got an opportunity to build something that will be great in the long term, if it means ****ty results and possible relegation, so be it. The long term future of the club is far more important than short term gain and then the same old routine.

 

We can go down and rebuild :rolleyes:

 

How are we now rebuilding for the future more than we ever have. This is trotted out but it means nothing.

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You were probably slagging BD off two years ago when we were playing Derby, everyone on here was. He isn't the answer.

 

We all slag Ronaldo off (obviously because he's an annoying and cheating c*nt if you're not a Man U fan) therefore you would presumably stick with Bradley Sh*te Phillips if we had an option on Ronaldo? Ronaldo obviously being ruled out because we've all slagged him off in the past.

 

Good logic.

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We all slag Ronaldo off (obviously because he's an annoying and cheating c*nt if you're not a Man U fan) therefore you would presumably stick with Bradley Sh*te Phillips if we had an option on Ronaldo? Ronaldo obviously being ruled out because we've all slagged him off in the past.

 

Good logic.

 

 

these are the saints fans these days that love the CCC and the brilliant football we are playing...

 

:rolleyes:

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Must say I disagree. My truly honest opinion is that I'd rather play the way are playing now in a system that is best suited for younger players then bring in a manager, and I use that term very loosely, who lumps it up to a big man route 1 whilst kicking the oppositon to pieces. Many people say that money is ruining football but I believe it the lack of quality passing football and the increasing amount of route 1 that will be english footballs downfall. Many forget that we are actually 4 POINTS away from relegation, with the bottom 3 arguably playing worse then our own squad. A couple of weeks ago it was all doom and gloom at watford but they ain't looking too bad now. IMHO I would rather we play football in the purist sense then Davies football.

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The recent appointment of Dean Gorre suggests to me that Rupert has not the slightest intention of replacing Jan Poortvleit - a new manager would probably want his own backroom staff and cancelling contracts only just signed would be an expensive and wasteful business .

 

Whether Poortvliet will walk at some stage is an entirely different question .

 

On the broader point it suites the Chairman not having a strong manager/coach (WGS was a long time ago) . Were RL in the market for a established Billy Davies type manager then surly he had only to retain Nigel Pearson's services , if he had we'd be safely mid-table now - all just my opinion of course .

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Lowe has experimented with this club too often, hoping to find that undiscovered starlet to push to team back to former heights. But he's failed...each decision he has taken has further reduced our options.. instead of becoming stronger, more stable he has made us weaker, unstable and downright inept. Because of his "experiments" we are spiralling towards who knows what... Other clubs like Watford and Charlton are in danger of doing the same. The difference being that they dont have "a Lowe" who will continue his own game of FM07/08/09 until the club is in tatters.

 

The only reason that so many posters refuse to believe our fate is because no other club will have ever experienced it ... this club is dying... and the ineptitute of a few executives ...and their stubborn refusal to do the right thing and GO..is the cause!

In years to come other clubs will look back at how Southampton Football Club was RUN not MANAGED and state "That is how not to do it."

 

Many dont want to believe it but they know they ought to.

 

The result... yet more change...and none of it purposeful or productive. I repeat the club is dying and we are all relatives sitting at the bedside administering the last rites.

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Lowe has experimented with this club too often, hoping to find that undiscovered starlet to push to team back to former heights. But he's failed...each decision he has taken has further reduced our options.. instead of becoming stronger, more stable he has made us weaker, unstable and downright inept. Because of his "experiments" we are spiralling towards who knows what... Other clubs like Watford and Charlton are in danger of doing the same. The difference being that they dont have "a Lowe" who will continue his own game of FM07/08/09 until the club is in tatters.

 

The only reason that so many posters refuse to believe our fate is because no other club will have ever experienced it ... this club is dying... and the ineptitute of a few executives ...and their stubborn refusal to do the right thing and GO..is the cause!

In years to come other clubs will look back at how Southampton Football Club was RUN not MANAGED and state "That is how not to do it."

 

Many dont want to believe it but they know they ought to.

 

The result... yet more change...and none of it purposeful or productive. I repeat the club is dying and we are all relatives sitting at the bedside administering the last rites.

 

I'd love to know the motivation of those in denial.

 

Is it a physiological disorder, is it simply that they are so insecure that the attendance bragging rights gives them some attention or is it that they are all Billy-No-Mates/borderline alkies where getting piissed with "mates" gives them some sense of personal fulfillment ?

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**** it lets save sh1t loads axe entire coaching staff as the boardroom has ideal new manager who has plenty of experiance

 

Rupert Lowe he can run club as total dictatorship

 

Ron Nodes ( ex palace chairman ) did job of owner/ chairman/ manager of Brentford about 10 years ago so why not Rupert

 

 

( yes am takin the p155 but who would be that shocked if it happened here??? )

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Last year we avoided relegation on the last day. Pearson didnt want to stay as he wanted a transfer budget which we didnt have. Jan has largely taken over the reserve/youth side of last season and we are doing do worse than last season.

 

Bearing in mind nobody thought we had a chance at the start of the season I think he is doing a good job.

 

A new manager now with all the change it would bring is likely to bring relegation.

 

Its interesting the number of posters who have talked of rebuilding and yet as soon as we start that process a number of people on here dont wont to give him anytime.

 

Success this season will be raising some more money by selling a couple of players and getting rid of the high earners and staying up which we are on course to do bearing in mind the youngsters will only get better as the season progresses.

 

To not stick with Jan would be a huge mistake.

 

Finally appointing Billy Davies is the one thing that might persuade me not to renew my Season Ticket

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We all slag Ronaldo off (obviously because he's an annoying and cheating c*nt if you're not a Man U fan) therefore you would presumably stick with Bradley Sh*te Phillips if we had an option on Ronaldo? Ronaldo obviously being ruled out because we've all slagged him off in the past.

 

Good logic.

 

I think BD was slagged by just about everyone on this board when Pearson was appointed. I seem to remember him being described as short-arsed,arrogant, scottish c*** whose teams play hoofball. Many voiced the opinion that they would rather poke their eyes out than watch that sort of football.

 

That was after he left as manager of Derby.

 

We knew at the start of the season, it was going to be tough and be a relegation battle & guess what, we're exactly where we thought we'd be.

 

Everyone is quick to moan about Lowe appointing managers, changing too quickly but you're happy to do the same with JP. Give the guy some time, some resources would help, he's had 6 months with one arm tied behind his back given the squad he's got. And its sounds like the players actually want to be here despite the no doubt meagre wages (relative to other clubs) that we're paying them.

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I think BD was slagged by just about everyone on this board when Pearson was appointed. I seem to remember him being described as short-arsed,arrogant, scottish c*** whose teams play hoofball. Many voiced the opinion that they would rather poke their eyes out than watch that sort of football.

 

That was after he left as manager of Derby.

 

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the football snobbery demonstrated on here at times is oon the fringes of lunacy

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the football snobbery demonstrated on here at times is oon the fringes of lunacy

 

Delldays, results are important but so is the way we play. If I look back at games I remember as classics then many of them we lost (Saints 2 Liverpool 3 from 1981)

 

If BD is that good a manager then why has he been out of work as a manager since parting company with Derby?

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Delldays, results are important but so is the way we play. If I look back at games I remember as classics then many of them we lost (Saints 2 Liverpool 3 from 1981)

 

If BD is that good a manager then why has he been out of work as a manager since parting company with Derby?

 

 

which is all the better for us...we wont have to pay his old club off..he wont want as much money (probably)...

 

we are not in the 80's anymore...we dont have le tiss..

 

we simply have to win to litterally survive now...more than ever and having a clueless manager with no experience of english football what so ever is not helping the cause...

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He needs more time. 6 months with the youth squad & some loan signings is not enough.

 

 

another one.. warnock was given the davies treatment when talked about possible candidates...

 

he took over from palace, out in YOUNGER players than we have and almost just as many and got them to the playoffs...why is that?

 

look when we played them...the best young player on the park was a palace player and they had kuqi...i wonder how many would love him here....

 

yet they brushed us aside...

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Pearson wasn't sacked, his contract was up at the end of last season. HTH

 

His contract was not up at the end of last season. There was a break clause that could be invoked by either side, a subtle, but very distinct difference.

 

Lowe took a conscious decision to activate it, effectively sacking Pearson.

 

HTH

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not knee jerk.....my honest opinion..

 

JAN OUT

 

I agree Jan Out (along with his Director of Totally Crap Football Lowe).

 

But, what would Billy Davies give us? He's a manager who needs old big CCC style players who he can get to bully the opposition off the park. Davies would need a completely new team to have an impact...

 

now if you're suggesting a completely new team and Billy D then you have a point IMHO.

 

But, I would prefer the takeover and Shearer personally... VERY SOON ... he needs to buy about 6 players in Jan to keep us up then build upon that next season.

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There's some serious rewriting of history on this thread, or people are just making things up to to suit their position!!!!!

 

It isn't. His contract was up. He/We wouldn't/couldn't agree a new one.

 

His contract was not up, Lowe chose to invoke the break clause.

 

Getting rid of Pearson was a conscious decision by Lowe, in order that he could bring in this "revolutionary coaching set up". Many people were aware of the decision to change the manager well before Lowe & co got their feet under the table.

 

It's a distinction that some people choose to ignore for some strange reason.

 

Pearson didnt want to stay as he wanted a transfer budget which we didnt have.

 

Complete rubbish.

 

Pearson was acutely aware of our situation and made it clear to Lowe that he was happy to work within the constraints before he went to Malta on holiday.

 

Pearson was a dead man walking the minute Wilde joined forces with Lowe.

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what is the right way then?

 

defending and scoring is also part of the deal which so many seem to forget for some reason...

 

I'm pretty sure that given the chance, JP would want some more experience at the back & up front to help the youngsters - but he doesn't have that choice. That said, he have brought in a number of loans that have baffled me and others that have dissappointed.

 

Bring in BD and we'll try and play a more physical game. But how is that going to succeed if the players can't play that way (demonstrated against Palace & Burnley). We could feed them a bit more & hope they grow??!! New tactic, 3 shredded wheat every morning....

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I'm pretty sure that given the chance, JP would want some more experience at the back & up front to help the youngsters - but he doesn't have that choice. That said, he have brought in a number of loans that have baffled me and others that have dissappointed.

 

Bring in BD and we'll try and play a more physical game. But how is that going to succeed if the players can't play that way (demonstrated against Palace & Burnley). We could feed them a bit more & hope they grow??!! New tactic, 3 shredded wheat every morning....

did you know the average age of the wolves team..?

 

23.

 

 

i wonder what ours was yesterday..?

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