washsaint Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 As frustrating as he may be, the guy is sheer class and creates chances. He is what we are missing.......a genuine playmaker. If we can get him firing and Osvaldo back we will look more potent up front. Sadly Rickie looks like his legs have gone and we have so many hard workers in midfield but no-one who really looks dangerous (Lallana aside). I truly hope Gaston stays and develops into the player he could be.....not least to shut all the moronic haters up on this once decent site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajv2809 Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockbridge_saint Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 This thread really wouldn't be here if Robles had made the save he should have. Glad to see him score, would be great to boost his confidence but I really don't think he's "sheer class" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He was good when he came on, but he has had so many chances and false dawns in the last 18 months. And it was a good shot, but horrific goal keeping from Robles if we're absolutely honest. Stick him in against Chelsea and in the FA Cup game...see if he can get a head of steam going. He's still got a lot to prove, but frustratingly I honestly think whatever happens that he's off in January. Don't think we'll replace him, but he's too expensive to have as a squad player and that's clearly what the club see him as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 As frustrating as he may be, the guy is sheer class and creates chances. He is what we are missing.......a genuine playmaker. If we can get him firing and Osvaldo back we will look more potent up front. Sadly Rickie looks like his legs have gone and we have so many hard workers in midfield but no-one who really looks dangerous (Lallana aside). I truly hope Gaston stays and develops into the player he could be.....not least to shut all the moronic haters up on this once decent site. Beat me to the post. Exactly my thoughts. He was good today. Him and Ossie would be ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 This thread really wouldn't be here if Robles hadn't made the save he should have. Glad to see him score, would be great to boost his confidence but I really don't think he's "sheer class" Was great shot with lots of power tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Wasn't just the goal he made us look so much more dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Let's be honest, the keeper should have saved that effort. Gaston did look good, however. Didn't agree with MP taking Cork off for him though, JWP should have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Wasn't just the goal he made us look so much more dangerous He did, but the shape of the team was altered as well. We scarified a defensive midfield player and pushed higher up, so we would have automatically looked more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 This thread really wouldn't be here if Robles had made the save he should have. Glad to see him score, would be great to boost his confidence but I really don't think he's "sheer class" I don't see anyone else in our team who could have or would have tried from that distance. He is the missing link in our team so if MP does not see that, then we have a problem going forwards as we lack creativity in the final third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He was good when he came on, but he has had so many chances and false dawns in the last 18 months. And it was a good shot, but horrific goal keeping from Robles if we're absolutely honest. Stick him in against Chelsea and in the FA Cup game...see if he can get a head of steam going. He's still got a lot to prove, but frustratingly I honestly think whatever happens that he's off in January. Don't think we'll replace him, but he's too expensive to have as a squad player and that's clearly what the club see him as. Sorry but that is gash. He was excellent today. S Davis etc will work hard but never had that much ability madness to sell him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0108787 Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 IF he plays like that consistently, then yes, otherwise no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Sorry but that is gash. He was excellent today. S Davis etc will work hard but never had that much ability madness to sell him Sorry, what's gash about that? He was excellent today, as I said. I didn't disagree with that. Not sure what you've disagreed with in the post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He did, but the shape of the team was altered as well. We scarified a defensive midfield player and pushed higher up, so we would have automatically looked more dangerous. Prowse didn't track back all day he should have come off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He is a very good player, he just struggles to get into games. You can normally tell with him after he's been on the pitch 10 minutes whether its worth keeping him on. Problem with Pochettino is that he wants hard graft and Gaston is never going to be flying into tackles. We'll see what happens in the next few weeks, but I think a deal has already been reached for him to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He was good when he came on, but he has had so many chances and false dawns in the last 18 months. And it was a good shot, but horrific goal keeping from Robles if we're absolutely honest. Stick him in against Chelsea and in the FA Cup game...see if he can get a head of steam going. He's still got a lot to prove, but frustratingly I honestly think whatever happens that he's off in January. Don't think we'll replace him, but he's too expensive to have as a squad player and that's clearly what the club see him as. You say that he's had loads of chances in the last 18 months. He did last season, but this season how many league starts did he actually have? None, and the games he did start in the league cup he scored 2 really class goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Prowse didn't track back all day he should have come off! Yep, I agree. But that wasn't in my post either? Still not sure what was gash about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 The reason he sometimes gives the ball away is because he is at least TRYING to play that killer pass that will actually DO something rather than just keep possession and wash his hands of responsibility. This really has been the major difference between Lallana now and Lallana "dribble-it-five-yards-and-pass-it-back-to-our-defenders" of 4-5 years ago. Both him and Gaston take responsibility for creating chances, rather than just keeping things ticking over and waiting for the chance to come. We have to play a midfield of MS/Wanyama and Ramirez, with Rodriguez and Lallana on the wings and Osvaldo up front. (Drop Wanyama for Davies if you prefer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Sorry, what's gash about that? He was excellent today, as I said. I didn't disagree with that. Not sure what you've disagreed with in the post... Okay see what you said but I don't think he's had too many chances and against spurs and today was working much harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Ramirez has looked up for it in his last few sub appearances, you can tell he really wants to play. Maybe it's another false dawn, on the other hand perhaps it isn't. He should be given the opportunity to start a couple of league matches and see if he can do it over 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Gaston had the 2nd most shots on goal behind Luke Shaw, I think he should get a game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Pocchetinos treatment of ramirez has been ludicrous tbh, lets be honest cork jwp and davies are all the same type of player sideways passers and not much creativity. Then you have gaston who can beat players play cracking slide balls and hit beautys like today sat on the bench. Todays goal was for you gaston haters. WHAT YOU SAYING NOW BARRY BULL**** HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 1m Mauricio Pochettino just told me that Gaston Ramirez can still be an important member of #saintsfc squad this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Gaston is class. I honestly believe we would create more chances per game with him in the side. He should be starting every game in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 1m Mauricio Pochettino just told me that Gaston Ramirez can still be an important member of #saintsfc squad this season Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 1m Mauricio Pochettino just told me that Gaston Ramirez can still be an important member of #saintsfc squad this season It's been 'can be' not 'will be' ever since Pochettino arrived, not sure why. His work rate's always good on the pitch but maybe he's not 100% at it in some other way. He was decent today and I'm pleased he got some time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 That brilliant cameo deserves a start next game. Changed the game when he came on. Looked much sharper and fitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Pochettino is a shape and tactics fanatic, Gaston disrupts what he wants so unless Gaston delivers on whatever that is, he'll be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There when Franny scored Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Gave his shirt to a disabled Everton (?) Fan after he scored. Got booked for it. Would love to see some common sense applied every now and again. Surprised he didn't get sent off for not having a number on his back thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He did not change the game when he came on, we were already threatening, **** knows how as most of our players today were ****e. There was a very ironic cheer in the stands when he scored, from the angle I cant tell if the keeper should have saved it, he hit it sweetly to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 As frustrating as he may be, the guy is sheer class and creates chances. He is what we are missing.......a genuine playmaker. If we can get him firing and Osvaldo back we will look more potent up front. Sadly Rickie looks like his legs have gone and we have so many hard workers in midfield but no-one who really looks dangerous (Lallana aside). I truly hope Gaston stays and develops into the player he could be.....not least to shut all the moronic haters up on this once decent site. I think the key is Ossie. He will be well aware of what Gaston can do and create the type runs that can create mayhem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He's a very good player, but has been frustrating since we have bought him as he does something brilliant interspersed with giving the ball away cheaply and so on. He clearly has it, but sometimes lets himself down. Has done well the last couple of matches though, and long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandSaint Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 His heart is in italy from what i can gather. Good, young player that would be very useful if we hold onto but can't see him staying at saints and i think MP knows that as well. Glimmers of class.. glimmers. Never made an outstanding contribution for me unlike our other forward players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Alert Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 last couple of matches he has looked sharp, against spurs he looked more interested than he has in a while. He must know with the world cup coming up he should be playing as often as he can so is putting in the effort Poh wants for him. Or maybe its just the new hair band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 I think maybe he thought he was bigger then us when he arrived so Poch has frozen him out to show we don't need him and knock him down a peg or two. I could see Osvaldo being in a similar situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Let's be honest, the keeper should have saved that effort. Gaston did look good, however. Didn't agree with MP taking Cork off for him though, JWP should have gone. I think Cork was taken off as it looked like he was working towards a RED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 You can't say he hasn't been given chances before though. If he starts on Wednesday and gets taken off after 70 mins, the majority on here will be slating him again. However, he hasn't really had a proper run of games so I'd start him in the next couple. Who knows, maybe he's playing for a move in January? FWIW I'd drop JWP, he's gone off the boil a bit, personally not good enough for me for where we want to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Gaston is a fantastic creative mid fielder. Unfortunatly for hin Adam is even better. But he is creeeping back into the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Thought mopo was going to get more from him. Gaston clearly has talent so you have to wonder why mopo can't maximise it. Think mopo struggles a bit with the forward players. Gaston and osWALDO + Lambert have all struggled under him. Jay is hit n miss too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Gaston is a fantastic creative mid fielder. Unfortunatly for hin Adam is even better. But he is creeeping back into the team Think gaston has more skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He did not change the game when he came on, we were already threatening, **** knows how as most of our players today were ****e. There was a very ironic cheer in the stands when he scored, from the angle I cant tell if the keeper should have saved it, he hit it sweetly to be fair. He played brilliantly today, don't rewrite history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 I think Cork was taken off as it looked like he was working towards a RED Indeed, he'd been warned verbally and then yellow limit orange carded, one more iffy challenge and he was toast. We need him on Wednesday to have a real midfield because JWP is absolute toss as a defensive player. In fact I don't think he's very good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Thought mopo was going to get more from him. Gaston clearly has talent so you have to wonder why mopo can't maximise it. Think mopo struggles a bit with the forward players. Gaston and osWALDO + Lambert have all struggled under him. Jay is hit n miss too Yeah bring back Adkins, at least most Reading fans would be happy then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Yeah bring back Adkins, at least most Reading fans would be happy then... You're obsessed with Adkins. He moved on a year ago mate, let it go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 You're obsessed with Adkins. He moved on a year ago mate, let it go Not at all, but your obsession about Pochettino is ridicolous and why you still like to use "mopo" is beyond everyone here. Why give the manager of team you (supposedly) support a degrading nickname is just ridicolous. We have a manager that has raised the team at least two levels in a year, isn´t that enough to make you happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 You're obsessed with Adkins. He moved on a year ago mate, let it go he was moved on, he didn't move on. Will be moving on again any day soon and not of his own free will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Think gaston has more skill. No he doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 No he doesn't He definitely does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 He definitely does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 December, 2013 Share Posted 29 December, 2013 Is that Michael Jackson with a sun tan ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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