SNSUN Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 In other news PSG are apparently ready to trigger Messi's 210m release clause !!!!!!! crazy Not if the Manchester City sheikhs get their way! http://www.football.co.uk/manchester_city/lionel_messi_is_coming_to_manchester__rss4545683.shtml Mmm, Messi and Aguero. Nice. (Not for the rest of us...) As for Mackay, I do believe he's better off out of there. Some of us know what it's like to work for a boss who's a ***t, it's not a pleasant enviroment. He'll replace Hughton at Norwich IMO, who's woefully underachieving with that squad.
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 He'll replace Hughton at Norwich IMO, who's woefully underachieving with that squad. doubt it, he's proved nothing, he's won 4 games out of 18 in the PL, no reason for Norwich to sack their manager and replace him with one of the same standard of achievement. McKay will get a NPC club at best.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 December, 2013 Author Posted 27 December, 2013 League cup final, promotion and 4 wins (incl. Man City) in 12 before Tan interfered. Will get another prem job for sure. Top manager
The Kraken Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 League cup final, promotion and 4 wins (incl. Man City) in 12 before Tan interfered. Will get another prem job for sure. Top manager Of course he will. He's already been sounded out for at least one other PL job this season.
Batman Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 I don't think McKay will get another prem job unless he promotes a team Adkins was talked about in the very same breath. He is now struggling to stay in the championship playoffs
CB Fry Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 I don't think McKay will get another prem job unless he promotes a team Adkins was talked about in the very same breath. He is now struggling to stay in the championship playoffs MM has a better top flight record than Nige, and there is a job vacancy that would fit nicely. So possible.
Batman Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 MM has a better top flight record than Nige, and there is a job vacancy that would fit nicely. So possible. probably, unlike last year (from memory) there seems to be more managers (appearing) on the edge of the cliff houghton, Allardyce, throw in WBA maybe even villa
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 Interesting conversation on this weeks The Game Times Podcast. The English journo loved MM , the 2 Europeans pointing out that they out spent everyone in championship and are something like 4th highest spenders this season. Marcoti who has championed our own MP's ability from day one pointed out that without Tams' money MM would be a run of the mill championship manager. I tend to agree with that. One thing for sure, he didn't inspire Much effort from his players when his job was on the line. Another Owen Coyle if you ask me.
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 MM has a better top flight record than Nige, and there is a job vacancy that would fit nicely. So possible. Yes he has obtained 1 more point in his 18 games than NA did in 18 last season. Why exactly they would sack Clarke and then appoint a bloke with a lesser record would baffle me somewhat. Still we shall see.
the colonel Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 I thought yesterday's chants of 'going to be sacked in the morning' was in poor taste. Yes take **** out their fans but MM doesn't deserve that from neural fans. I do wish us Saints fans could show some class sometimes.
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 I thought yesterday's chants of 'going to be sacked in the morning' was in poor taste. Yes take **** out their fans but MM doesn't deserve that from neural fans. I do wish us Saints fans could show some class sometimes. Why doesn't he deserve that then ? Why were his own fans leaving at half-time? Bloke has lost half of the matches he's played this season, to me that's sacking form whether the owner is a bit of a nutter or not. West Brom sacked Clarke with better results than that.
Batman Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 I thought yesterday's chants of 'going to be sacked in the morning' was in poor taste. Yes take **** out their fans but MM doesn't deserve that from neural fans. I do wish us Saints fans could show some class sometimes. part of the game. he (if was not already) was guaranteed millions of ££££££ for having the nations backing over Tan. Im sure a few chants of being sacked will not bother him at all
Tomobz Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 Not if the Manchester City sheikhs get their way! http://www.football.co.uk/manchester_city/lionel_messi_is_coming_to_manchester__rss4545683.shtml Mmm, Messi and Aguero. Nice. (Not for the rest of us...) As for Mackay, I do believe he's better off out of there. Some of us know what it's like to work for a boss who's a ***t, it's not a pleasant enviroment. He'll replace Hughton at Norwich IMO, who's woefully underachieving with that squad. Would love to see Messi in the prem!
OldNick Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 Still convinced clubs will benefit for sticking with a manager over 3-4 seasons.i wonder if you think Spurs will follow the 3 season route? Unbelievable decision to employ him, I believe now that we will finish above them
stevegrant Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 i wonder if you think Spurs will follow the 3 season route? Unbelievable decision to employ him, I believe now that we will finish above them The Sherwood appointment is clearly a short-term one because nobody they actually want is available at the moment, but they had to give Sherwood a long enough contract to get him to accept it. He'll be booted in the summer (unless he can do what only Jamie Redknapp believes he'll do and get Spurs into the top 4) and they'll get Louis Van Gaal or Frank De Boer.
eurosaint Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 I feel that McKay, as an up and coming British manager, was doing a pretty good job and his record stands up to a fair degree of scrutiny so far ! To be outside of the relegation zone after 18 games gave them a good fighting chance to stay up after 50 odd years out of the top flight ! Before the 'dirty washing' issues, they were looking ok but seem to have suffered because of it ! Tan, on the other hand is clearly a megalomaniac who is used to being fawned upon by his minions in Asia and can't quite understand why Malky is getting the kudos for promotion etc.. He is putting up the money and expects the glory as a natural reward but resents the fact that someone else is more popular than him ! Of the two, I would prefer to be associated with a straight, honest, football man than someone who is clearly on a quest for celebrity, based on his wealth and perceived superior knowledge of England's national sport ! All IMHO of course !
melmacian_saint Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 To be honest I don't think McKay is a worse manager than Chris Hughton, who after not promoting Birmingham with a mid-table PL squad, is now dragging Norwich back after such solid progress under Paul Lambert. His signings were also pretty bad: Two poachers that can't play together, no holding midfielder or CB and frankly a type of football that underestimates his players abilities massively.
Batman Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 Adkins just made a terrible job choice. Should have waited. Reading have pretty much done as well as they're going to do, pretty small club and even if he did get them up they'd struggle. Wish he'd gone somewhere I could get behind him more! Bit they won the league last time round
Dig Dig Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 Btw, does anyone know if Cortese still picks the team? He was about a year ago apparently
Wade Garrett Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 To be honest I don't think McKay is a worse manager than Chris Hughton, who after not promoting Birmingham with a mid-table PL squad, is now dragging Norwich back after such solid progress under Paul Lambert. His signings were also pretty bad: Two poachers that can't play together, no holding midfielder or CB and frankly a type of football that underestimates his players abilities massively. Bit harsh on Hughton. Signed Leroy Fer who is superb, Hooper is in the goals, Redmond looks quality.
Doctoroncall Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 Adkins just made a terrible job choice. Should have waited. Reading have pretty much done as well as they're going to do, pretty small club and even if he did get them up they'd struggle. Wish he'd gone somewhere I could get behind him more! They have had quite a few injuries to a small squad so not too bad to keep in touch of the play-offs at the half way point of the season
adrian lord Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 I feel that McKay, as an up and coming British manager, was doing a pretty good job and his record stands up to a fair degree of scrutiny so far ! To be outside of the relegation zone after 18 games gave them a good fighting chance to stay up after 50 odd years out of the top flight ! Before the 'dirty washing' issues, they were looking ok but seem to have suffered because of it ! Tan, on the other hand is clearly a megalomaniac who is used to being fawned upon by his minions in Asia and can't quite understand why Malky is getting the kudos for promotion etc.. He is putting up the money and expects the glory as a natural reward but resents the fact that someone else is more popular than him ! Of the two, I would prefer to be associated with a straight, honest, football man than someone who is clearly on a quest for celebrity, based on his wealth and perceived superior knowledge of England's national sport ! All IMHO of course ! Exclamation marks.
adrian lord Posted 27 December, 2013 Posted 27 December, 2013 Adkins just made a terrible job choice. Should have waited. Reading have pretty much done as well as they're going to do, pretty small club and even if he did get them up they'd struggle. Wish he'd gone somewhere I could get behind him more! Adkins should have waited for Leeds?
david in sweden Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 Mackay ....was bit of a foregone conclusion really. Their Chairman - more or less sacked him by e-mail, and to lose a home game when he 's sitting in the stand with the axe under his seat is no surprise. If the Chairman wants you out (for whatever reason) - there's little alternative. Remember both Pardew and Adkins were sacked after some quite acceptable away results. .......and just look at WHO .....Abrahamovic has sacked in the last 10 years.
david in sweden Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 I feel that McKay, as an up and coming British manager, was doing a pretty good job and his record stands up to a fair degree of scrutiny so far ! To be outside of the relegation zone after 18 games gave them a good fighting chance to stay up after 50 odd years out of the top flight ! Before the 'dirty washing' issues, they were looking ok but seem to have suffered because of it ! Tan, on the other hand is clearly a megalomaniac who is used to being fawned upon by his minions in Asia and can't quite understand why Malky is getting the kudos for promotion etc.. He is putting up the money and expects the glory as a natural reward but resents the fact that someone else is more popular than him ! Of the two, I would prefer to be associated with a straight, honest, football man than someone who is clearly on a quest for celebrity, based on his wealth and perceived superior knowledge of England's national sport ! All IMHO of course ! Whilst I agree with most of what you wrote, let's not hide the reality.....you mean SCOTTISH - don't you? Matt Busby, Bill Shankly and Jock Stein were amongst the first in a long line of very successful managers who were born north of the border. Shame really when you consider that the number of English-born managers in the Prem. today can almost be counted on one hand .
badgerx16 Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 See that Tan has now said there will be 'extensive' funds. Will they be doing a QPR ?
Saint86 Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 Would love to see Messi in the prem! It would finnaly shut upnallnthe people who want to bum him when they realise that in a challenging tough physical league, Ronald ajdnmaybe bale are better than him lol... The man knows this, so if he leaves Spain it won't be for the premier... He has a reputation to maintain.
Saint_clark Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 I don't think McKay will get another prem job unless he promotes a team Adkins was talked about in the very same breath. He is now struggling to stay in the championship playoffs But Adkins DID get a Prem job, so you've contradicted yourself there.
Saint_clark Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 Whilst I agree with most of what you wrote, let's not hide the reality.....you mean SCOTTISH - don't you? Matt Busby, Bill Shankly and Jock Stein were amongst the first in a long line of very successful managers who were born north of the border. Shame really when you consider that the number of English-born managers in the Prem. today can almost be counted on one hand . It can be counted on one hand, Sherwood, Allardyce, Hughton, Bruce, Pardew.
SuperSAINT Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 See that Tan has now said there will be 'extensive' funds. What a surprise.
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 But Adkins DID get a Prem job, so you've contradicted yourself there. and still got relegated anyway. Not that you can put much of that down to him though, the rot had already set in. He did however (IIRC) waffle on about saving them from relegation.
Saint_clark Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 and still got relegated anyway. Not that you can put much of that down to him though, the rot had already set in. He did however (IIRC) waffle on about saving them from relegation. Regardless of what happened after, he was still seen as good enough for the Prem.
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 Regardless of what happened after, he was still seen as good enough for the Prem. by Reading and I think they somewhat regretted that decision and are now asking themselves if they may have done better to accept that relegation was inevitable and retain McDermott.
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 by Reading and I think they somewhat regretted that decision and are now asking themselves if they may have done better to accept that relegation was inevitable and retain McDermott.McDermott will be trying his damnedest to finish above Adkins and I think he has a good chance. NA showed a lack of judgement/self confidence by taking the Reading job. Always going to be difficult to get promotion from that league with the squad he had without plenty of spending
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 McDermott will be trying his damnedest to finish above Adkins and I think he has a good chance. NA showed a lack of judgement/self confidence by taking the Reading job. Always going to be difficult to get promotion from that league with the squad he had without plenty of spending McDermott is currently about a point above Adkins I think. Neither are setting the NPC on fire though.
Batman Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 Regardless of what happened after, he was still seen as good enough for the Prem. and a growing number of fans are counting down the days until he gets the boot. they dont particularly rate him over there. after all, (they see it) he failed to win the league with a far superior squad. was he/is he any better than the manager they got rid of?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2013 Author Posted 28 December, 2013 and a growing number of fans are counting down the days until he gets the boot. they dont particularly rate him over there. after all, (they see it) he failed to win the league with a far superior squad. was he/is he any better than the manager they got rid of? Far superior squad? reading lost nearly 20 players in the summer & they have had a horrendous run of injuries. Most sensible posters / reading fans agree he is playing very good football and is doing a great job keeping them in contention
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 (edited) Far superior squad? reading lost nearly 20 players in the summer & they have had a horrendous run of injuries. Most sensible posters / reading fans agree he is playing very good football and is doing a great job keeping them in contention the point being that our squad was superior to theirs when they won the NPC championship, it's nothing to do with what happened subsequently. We lost the NPC because Hammond and KD were atrociously bad in the home game with them. 2 of Nigel's binkies. Edited 28 December, 2013 by Window Cleaner
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 the point being that our squad was superior to theirs when they won the NPC championship, it's nothing to do with what happened subsequently. We lost the NPC because Hammond and KD were atrociously bad in the home game with them. 2 of Nigel's binkies. I think you will find it was Fox who had the mere. Trying a stupid crossfield ball and being skinned by their winger
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 I think you will find it was Fox who had the mere. Trying a stupid crossfield ball and being skinned by their winger no Hammond gave the ball away for the goal i'm thinking about and Davis missed a cross he should have cut out. Images implanted in my brain forever.
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 no Hammond gave the ball away for the goal i'm thinking about and Davis missed a cross he should have cut out. Images implanted in my brain forever.We are talking the home defeat,where we should have won by a hatful? Im sorry as much as you dislike KD you cannot pin that down to him, it was a pinpoint cross. i thought it was Fox who did the pass but i could be wrong on that.
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 We are talking the 1 nil home defeat,where we should have won by a hatful? Im sorry as much as you dislike KD you cannot pin that down to him, it was a pinpoint cross. i thought it was Fox who did the pass but i could be wrong on that. I'm talking about a 3-1 home defeat on the evening of the 13th april 2012. I was furious because we gifted them the win, I understand Cortese was furax as well.
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 I'm talking about a 3-1 home defeat on the evening of the 13th april 2012. I was furious because we gifted them the win, I understand Cortese was furax as well. 1 min 40 odd, it is hard to tell who did the pass, both Fox and Hammond are in the vicinity, there is no way the keeper could have claimed that one. you are correct it being 3-1 i still recall the injustice that they were 1 up at half-time and have blanked the rest
eurosaint Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 It can be counted on one hand, Sherwood, Allardyce, Hughton, Bruce, Pardew. Having played 53 times for the Republic of Ireland, I reckon that you're down to four fingers !!
Batman Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 Having played 53 times for the Republic of Ireland, I reckon that you're down to four fingers !! Is he English that qualified to play for Ireland. Or is he Irish?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2013 Author Posted 28 December, 2013 Hughton was born in east London
St Chalet Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 1 min 40 odd, it is hard to tell who did the pass, both Fox and Hammond are in the vicinity, there is no way the keeper could have claimed that one. you are correct it being 3-1 i still recall the injustice that they were 1 up at half-time and have blanked the rest Fox tried a Hollywood ball.
krissyboy31 Posted 28 December, 2013 Posted 28 December, 2013 Hughton was born in east London I've got Irish mates who were born in Southampton but if you called them English, they'd probably kill you!
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