DatSaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Didn't see this mentioned anywhere or a thread about it, but Rickie told Adam to get Jos off! Was caught by player cam. http://www.tv2.no/play/sport/premierleague/her-slakter-lambert-lagkameraten-ba-benken-bytte-781401.html (You have to have Norwegian ip to watch it I think) Even his teammates wants Jos off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pastor Patrón Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 How are we supposed to watch it if we live in a proper country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
110_Persaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Rickie just went up 150% in my estimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 the player cam of Lambert for Soldados shot that hit the side netting. Said something like "Get Jos off, he's terrible" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 He's not saying anything the fans weren't thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Him and 29000 others! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Nice to know at least one of the players could see it too then ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 We're supposed to just take your word for it, given we can't watch it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 We're supposed to just take your word for it, given we can't watch it? Are you suggesting he's lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Disappointed in Rickie, in all honesty. He's not exactly on a soapbox from which to criticise others after his own start to the season. Jos has been terrible, but I don't want to see that on the field, nor do I want to see Fox and Hooiveld bickering again. Annoys me more than any loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 We're supposed to just take your word for it, given we can't watch it? It is true though. Just doing a search of Twitter shows a few tweets of people mentioning it at the time. Trying desperately hard to get a copy of the video to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Rickie just went up 150% in my estimation. Funny, he's gone down in my estimation (though not by much). Notwithstanding the situation and pressure on the pitch, it's always ugly seeing that kind of behaviour among team members. And as one poster above me has already said, Lambert is hardly in a position himself from which he can criticise others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Hmm I'm not sure I find that funny or constructive. I'll put it down to a heat of the moment kind of thing though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Funny, he's gone down in my estimation (though not by much). Notwithstanding the situation and pressure on the pitch, it's always ugly seeing that kind of behaviour among team members. And as one poster above me has already said, Lambert is hardly in a position himself from which he can criticise others. Behave - Lamberts a F****** legend, can say what he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Behave - Lamberts a F****** legend, can say what he wants Hmmm - it's hardly the best way to help your fellow player out, right? Further, it's not up to Lambert to choose which players to sub; no player should see themselves as substantially better than their peers or the club, for that matter. This is a policy that worked effectively for teams such as Man United, and I'm sure it should work with the Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Hmmm - it's hardly the best way to help your fellow player out, right? Further, it's not up to Lambert to choose which players to sub; no player should see themselves as substantially better than their peers or the club, for that matter. This is a policy that worked effectively for teams such as Man United, and I'm sure it should work with the Saints. Beckham was moved on when started thinking he was more big time than the team........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Rickie is even more of a legend than I first realised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Beckham was moved on when started thinking he was more big time than the team........ Same with Ronaldo et al. And United really suffered as a result, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Funny, he's gone down in my estimation (though not by much). Notwithstanding the situation and pressure on the pitch, it's always ugly seeing that kind of behaviour among team members. And as one poster above me has already said, Lambert is hardly in a position himself from which he can criticise others. Agree, if it's what was actually said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I'll believe it if I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Beckham was moved on when started thinking he was more big time than the team........ Ferguson would have been moved on if he picked Fox and Hooiveld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Lovren definitely gave Gazza a bollocking in the second half. I like the club's measured approach to transfers but if we're going to keep players of Lovren's calibre happy we need to show him that he won't have to play alongside vastly inferior players the second we get an injury or two. Lovren, Clyne, Lallana, Shaw, Morgan, Osvaldo, potentially Ramirez... We need to sign or produce players at that level to keep growing or we will struggle to keep some of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Didn't see this mentioned anywhere or a thread about it, but Rickie told Adam to get Jos off! Was caught by player cam. http://www.tv2.no/play/sport/premierleague/her-slakter-lambert-lagkameraten-ba-benken-bytte-781401.html (You have to have Norwegian ip to watch it I think) Even his teammates wants Jos off. Can anyone upload the video so that we can see it in the UK? If he really did say what has been claimed, Lambert can most certainly keep his mouth shut. When it comes to performing well in the Championship and being completely inadequate in the Premiership the pot is most certainly calling the kettle black. Plus its not that Jos was underperforming or putting in a lack of effort. He simply isn't good enough to play Premiership football full stop; and as such there isn't anything constructive you can really say about him or to him. Just another reason to give Lovren the captaincy in my opinion. Not only is he our best player but he has a natural authority and whilst Lallana leads by example, tough times calls for real leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Regardless of how good/bad anyone is, you shouldn't say that about your teammates, especially during the game. Hardly going to do any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 (edited) If he really did say what has been claimed, Lambert can most certainly keep his mouth shut. When it comes to performing well in the Championship and being completely inadequate in the Premiership the pot is most certainly calling the kettle black. Yep, 15 goals in the Premier League last season was completely inadequate. Great analogy. Edited 23 December, 2013 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I've just seen it. It's a new in-play marketing initiative being tested out by SFC, promoting a local building firm. What he actually said was.. 'Get your soffits at Reeble's' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Pathetic from rickie. Josh is a top bloke but not up to it. Rickie should sort his own form out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Yep, 15 goals in the Premier League last season was completely inadequate. Great analogy. But Rasiak you are completely deluded and must have been asleep all last season. Wally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Funny, he's gone down in my estimation (though not by much). Notwithstanding the situation and pressure on the pitch, it's always ugly seeing that kind of behaviour among team members. And as one poster above me has already said, Lambert is hardly in a position himself from which he can criticise others. He has been very poor this season by his own high standards yes but Id argue that it is nore the system we employ then him being poor. He still performs, just doesnt do enough. Jos has basically been completely found out in the PL and consistantly poor. He makes atleast one big mistake a game, that will have an effect on those around him aswell. Though the dream team of Jos, Fox and gazza is hardly inspiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Pathetic from rickie. Josh is a top bloke but not up to it. Rickie should sort his own form out. You're like a dumped ex girlfriend who pretends she doesn't care anymore and tells everyone so but cries herself to sleep every night with her ex's picture under her pillow when it comes to Rickie at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Heat of the moment stuff, the players were as frustrated as us. Lambo is hardly the sort of bloke to be spiteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Pathetic from rickie. Josh is a top bloke but not up to it. Rickie should sort his own form out. Grow a pair, there is nothing wrong with an opinion and let's be honest we all thought it. Jos has to man up and either take it or preferably **** off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Grow a pair, there is nothing wrong with an opinion and let's be honest we all thought it. Jos has to man up and either take it or preferably **** off I presume therefore that you are among the crowd that believes chanting negative comments towards Paulo Gazzaniga is a positive, motivating thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I've just watched it. It looks like that's probably what he said, but it's hard to be sure, the commentators were convinced. Erik Thorstvedt couldn't believe Jos was allowed on the pitch again after the last **** up. They like MP though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 But Rasiak you are completely deluded and must have been asleep all last season. Wally. He had a good record in his first season but for the last calendar year he has a grand total of 7 goals from open play. Grant Holt outscored Lambert in his first season in the Premiership and we dismissed him as a try-hard Champo clogger who was just having his flash-in-the-pan honeymoon moment against defences that hadn't yet figured him out, whilst our Rickie was vastly superior and anyone who compared the two was making a lazy and insulting comparison. I'll never shout at Saints players who aren't good enough, because there is simply no point. As I say what are you supposed to shout at Jos/Gazza? Tackle him! Save a shot! Come off your line! BE better! BE not simply well out of your depth in the Premiership!....Well? As I've said in the past its like putting your 8-year old child in charge of cooking the evening meal and then complaining when the house burns down. With Rickie, as you've said, he has previously performed quite well in the Premiership, but at the moment he seems to lack any of the aggression, energy and effort (as well as the touch, finesse and willingness to shoot that made him a real handful in the first 6-7 months of last season. If a player who isn't good enough is playing for Southampton F.C., it isn't their fault, its the manager/chairman's fault for not sorting out adequete cover. If a player who IS or SHOULD be good enough is playing poorly down to a lack of effort/practice/loss of form, THEN I start to get rather miffed. But what the hey. Some people will be blindly loyal to Rickie forever, as two of the comments above calling him a legend for *****ing and moaning about a teammate have shown and proven my point. The sooner we give Lovren the captaincy, sign a proper centre-back to go alongside him, get a left-footed left-winger and put Rodriguez who has looked in every way a complete centre-forward through the middle, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Grow a pair, there is nothing wrong with an opinion and let's be honest we all thought it. Jos has to man up and either take it or preferably **** off Grow a pair and man up? ...You surely can't expect the rest of your post to be taken seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Does Adam do the subs nowadays? #feedthebearandhewillsubyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Grow a pair and man up? ...You surely can't expect the rest of your post to be taken seriously? You read it how you want mate, my opinions are my own and I'll give them when I feel strong enough about something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I presume therefore that you are among the crowd that believes chanting negative comments towards Paulo Gazzaniga is a positive, motivating thing? They say that's the mother of all **** ups right? I never chanted anything negative. I will say I hold the opinion that both Gazzinga and Hooiveld should never pull a first team shirt on again though..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Video worked fine for me. Don't have to be an expert lip-reader to understand that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 December, 2013 Share Posted 24 December, 2013 Its a 100% fair comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 24 December, 2013 Share Posted 24 December, 2013 Is Jos being paid? Just watched the OG again on MOTD. What is he doing? From where he's standing/facing and the angle the ball arrives at he has to really try hard to get it past the keeper and into the net. Any sort of a pub defender's Sunday morning kick and the ball goes somewhere between 1 yard outside the near post, somewhere towards the corner flag, or towards the corner of the penalty area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 24 December, 2013 Share Posted 24 December, 2013 Its a 100% fair comment. True.... but I am not sure Lambert was in any position to make that sort of comment, based on his own performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 24 December, 2013 Share Posted 24 December, 2013 True.... but I am not sure Lambert was in any position to make that sort of comment, based on his own performance. I agree with that, and I'm not sure he should be doing it regardless of his performance. He's not the captain, and even if he was he should only do something like that very infrequently and much more discretely than yelling it from the pitch. But the part that troubles me most is that this reaction was not just a reflection of Rickie's views on Jos's performance in the Spurs game, but of Rickie's views of Jos as a PL player. It has built up over time, as it has with us, and there's an underlying questioning of Pochettino's decision-making - a rather open questioning of it. He wasn't, I suspect, calling for Jos to be pulled just because he was playing badly, but because - in Rickie's opinion (possibly shared by other players) - he shouldn't have been out there in the first place. I'm looking beyond Rickie's actions on Sunday and thinking that they might be an insight into something deeper. Rickie's head didn't seem to be in it on Sunday (not for the first time lately), and I still have the picture in my mind of him trudging off before anyone else, head down and looking quite depressed, after our excellent performance against Man City; he didn't even acknowledge the cheering crowd as he left. Whether this is just a Rickie issue remains to be seen, but this is not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 December, 2013 Share Posted 24 December, 2013 (edited) Interesting. We had a number of comments over the weekend asking why SRL looked hacked off or disinterested or not up to his usual standards on Sunday. Then we "see" him pointing out something that was obvious to about 10 million people watching the game world wide. And posters give him grief for it. Edited 24 December, 2013 by dubai_phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 24 December, 2013 Share Posted 24 December, 2013 Just watched the video through VPN and it's not at all clear that Rickie said "he's terrible". "get Jos off" looks close enough, but the "he's terrible" is just a bad lip read by the Norwegian journos. His mouth didn't move to those words at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 24 December, 2013 Share Posted 24 December, 2013 You read it how you want mate, my opinions are my own and I'll give them when I feel strong enough about something! Wow that's him told.... Shame they don't contain any intellect or common sense then. Oh and it's 'strongly' in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 December, 2013 Share Posted 24 December, 2013 How many own goals has Jos scored over the last two seasons? We scored two goals yesterday (Rickie scoring one and starting the move that lead to the other) and with our first choice defence that would have been enough to win that game. Jos (not to mention Gazza and Fox) is a liability. Despite the now, highly fashionable, constant Lambert bashing on here. Rickie has probably done more than another player to get us where we are now if he wants to have a diva moment he can ****ing have one. As far as I'm concerned he has earned the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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