Batman Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I wonder what sort of reaction their players will have with the manager staying for now We will surely have fonte and shaw back at least Maybe even clyne. Ossie fit I hope too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 This side (since 2009) have always had a habit of bouncing back strong after a poor performance/run of results. We could really do with a win here, otherwise it could be 10 or 11 without a win. Gazza, Chambers, Fonte, Lovren, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, JWP, Lallana, Rodriguez, Osvaldo. 2-1 Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Ossie will be banned for this I reckon. Shaw will be back and possibly Clyne. But we obviously won't keep a clean sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 (edited) We're going to this one and personally a bit worried about getting turned over. The support for their manager at Anfield was emphatic and I reckon this fixture has come at a really bad time. For me, other injuries aside, Boruc has been a huge loss and Gazza just doesn't have any goalkeeper qualities in his locker whatsoever. Anyone at the past few games will agree. With Chelsea & Everton to come after that we need the points and truly hoping the lads can prove me wrong. I'd take a draw while we continue to work towards getting the squad fit. Edited 23 December, 2013 by rshephard3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Really good opportunity to get back to winning ways here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 We have to play Cropper, if he makes one save he'll have done better than Gazzaniga yesterday. If he's not even as good as Gazza then he shouldn't be with the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 We have to play Cropper, if he makes one save he'll have done better than Gazzaniga yesterday. If he's not even as good as Gazza then he shouldn't be with the club. I can't believe that people are saying there's no difference between chambers and Clyne. Clyne far superior IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 We have to play Cropper, if he makes one save he'll have done better than Gazzaniga yesterday. If he's not even as good as Gazza then he shouldn't be with the club. I have to agree, the worst that can happen is he's poor as well and lets in a few goals. The "safe" option of playing Gazza means we're also likely to let in a few goals, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Remind me a bit of the QPR away game last season. Both sides desperate or a win with both managers under pressure. Let's hope we get a positive outcome here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Hopefully Shaw & Fonte are back at the very least. The other question really is whether to persist with Lambert (who was awful yesterday and as the games come thick and fast will get even worse as he tires out), give Gallagher a start (bit of a risk given how important victory is) or Play Rodriguez as the striker and bring Ramirez or JWP into the midfield. Really do need to win this and get a little bit of momentum as the Everton and Chelsea matches will not be pretty if we go into them low on confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 If Shaw and Clyne are back could Chambers move to centre back, assuming Fonte isn't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Just praying there are a few players back for this, would hope to see Clyne, Shaw and Fonte at least return to the starting line up. By the way, where was Osvaldo yesterday? Didn't see him mentioned anywhere, usually a thread criticising him escalates after a defeat even when he doesn't play! Looking forward to this game, but really need to get our season back on track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 If Shaw and Clyne are back could Chambers move to centre back, assuming Fonte isn't fit. I wondered the same thing, but after doing a bit of checking on him I would say it's unlikely. According to the Saints website he's more of a creative midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 If Shaw and Clyne are back could Chambers move to centre back, assuming Fonte isn't fit. That wouldn't happen, he's only just learning to become a rb let along whacking him in out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 That wouldn't happen, he's only just learning to become a rb let along whacking him in out of position. I think he'll end up becoming a full back that can also cover in the middle. It may be a bit early but if it came down to a choice of him or Jos I know who I'd pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I'd go for Jrod as out & out striker & lots of creativity in mid field Gazza, Clyne, Fonte, Lovren, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, JWP, Lallana, Gaston, Rodriguez, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Ideally none of Fox, Jos and Gazza will be playing. For Fox not to play we would need 1 of Clyne or Shaw to be fit. If neither we're fit we could play Chambers left and Cork or Davis at right back. For Jos to be dropped we would need Fonte to be fit. If Fonte isn't fit, then I would rather play Cork there. I would even play Yoshida. Gazza is more tricky. The only alternative seems to be Cropper. If he isn't being considered at the moment, I can only conclude he isn't very good. Alternatively, we could play Cork there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Ideally none of Fox, Jos and Gazza will be playing. For Fox not to play we would need 1 of Clyne or Shaw to be fit. If neither we're fit we could play Chambers left and Cork or Davis at right back. For Jos to be dropped we would need Fonte to be fit. If Fonte isn't fit, then I would rather play Cork there. I would even play Yoshida. Gazza is more tricky. The only alternative seems to be Cropper. If he isn't being considered at the moment, I can only conclude he isn't very good. Alternatively, we could play Cork there. I'd throw Boruc in goal with a sling on....would be better. Sod it, Toni Jimenez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I never like it when we play clubs that are apparently in disarray - we traditionally blow it and they always seem to use us as a springboard to unity and a win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 time to bounce back - no more excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I never like it when we play clubs that are apparently in disarray - we traditionally blow it and they always seem to use us as a springboard to unity and a win! Luckily they are all back to being bestest ever friends at Cardiff now. At least for the time being Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 time to bounce back - no more excuses I dont think we should adopt the baggies model just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 With the same team as yesterday, I can see us coming away with no points. We really couldn't do any worse than a few players yesterday... With this in mind, I'd go for the below (assuming a few people will be fit): Cropper Clyne - Fonte - Lovren - Shaw Cork - Schneiderlin Lallana - Ramirez/Davis - J Rod Gallagher/Lee Rickie looked seriously off pace yesterday and is either in need of a rest or is carrying an injury. Pointless playing him when we have two other available fit strikers in Gallagher and Lee. If Fonte is still mysteriously out then bring in Yoshida. Hoovield and Fox shouldn't be anywhere near the team no matter how desperate we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Everton and Chelsea after this so a win would be quite handy. I'm not optimistic as we just don't look like we've got a clean sheet in us at the moment. We've gone back to the start of last season where we could score 3 goals and we'd still lose. I'm thinking maybe a score draw, 2-2. If Fonte is still not fit, I would play Yoshida not Jos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 No way should Gallagher or Lee start ahead of Lambert, even if he is off form. Lee If Lambert were to be taken out then JR up front with Gaston or JWP coming in is the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 No way should Gallagher or Lee start ahead of Lambert, even if he is off form. Lee If Lambert were to be taken out then JR up front with Gaston or JWP coming in is the better option. doubt if we'll ever see Lee again, certainly not in the PL anyway. He got some sort of reprieve but he'll be packed off back to Japan very soon, might even be on the same plane as Maya. Neither seem to have any future with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I am getting annoyed with Poch's lack of direct response when asked about injuries and the way he hides behind the interpreter (not literally). He says we are not going to be active in January yet he doesnt give any outlook on injuries to calm the fans fears, so the fans are left questioning the clubs strategy. I dont want to see wholesale changes in January but it is clear as day we need a CB and LB. When 99% of the fan base cringed at the thought of Jos and Fox playing yesterday it is safe to say we need to strengthen in those areas. Yoshida, Turnball and Stephens are not the answer. Dont know enough about Taggett to be fair to form an opinion. If we have clyne, shaw and fonte back for cardiff then I will be optimistic but anything less, then I fear the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I am getting annoyed with Poch's lack of direct response when asked about injuries and the way he hides behind the interpreter (not literally). He says we are not going to be active in January yet he doesnt give any outlook on injuries to calm the fans fears, so the fans are left questioning the clubs strategy. I dont want to see wholesale changes in January but it is clear as day we need a CB and LB. When 99% of the fan base cringed at the thought of Jos and Fox playing yesterday it is safe to say we need to strengthen in those areas. Yoshida, Turnball and Stephens are not the answer. Dont know enough about Taggett to be fair to form an opinion. If we have clyne, shaw and fonte back for cardiff then I will be optimistic but anything less, then I fear the worst. What Mauricio says about transfer activity and what will actually happen are two different things. We're obviously going to bring in a keeper and probably a central defender/left back. He's not going to say here's our shopping list come and get our money because we're desperate, that is not the Southampton Way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 With the same team as yesterday, I can see us coming away with no points. We really couldn't do any worse than a few players yesterday... With this in mind, I'd go for the below (assuming a few people will be fit): Cropper Clyne - Fonte - Lovren - Shaw Cork - Schneiderlin Lallana - Ramirez/Davis - J Rod Gallagher/Lee Rickie looked seriously off pace yesterday and is either in need of a rest or is carrying an injury. Pointless playing him when we have two other available fit strikers in Gallagher and Lee. If Fonte is still mysteriously out then bring in Yoshida. Hoovield and Fox shouldn't be anywhere near the team no matter how desperate we are. Lee Another one who shouldn't be anywhere near the team and isn't thank god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 No way should Gallagher or Lee start ahead of Lambert, even if he is off form. Lee If Lambert were to be taken out then JR up front with Gaston or JWP coming in is the better option. With the exception of a tap in, I didn't see Lambert making any impact on the game whatsoever yesterday. Agree with J Rod possibly up front though. Just thought as he's been so effective playing out on the left recently, why change his position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 The leauge table couild look a sorry sight for Saints come Feb if we are not decisive and prompt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 What's up with Osvaldo, is he available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 (edited) What's up with Osvaldo, is he available? doesn't figure in the build up galleries at all so probably not in training last week, certainly not at the end that counts anyway. Could be suspended by the club for getting involved in some sort of scuffle last week, could be injured or sick because that would explain his performance and early substitution last week. Could have gone back to Italy to get divorced or married or something, these lads seem to like doing that. Cavani just suddenly walked out of training at PSG last week to go back to Uruguay to get a divorce. Could be negociating a transfer who knows, don't really care, a very expensive acquisition for his contribution thus far. Edited 23 December, 2013 by Window Cleaner a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Cody Cropper: this season's Kevin Miller? I agree he can't be that much worse than Gazzaniga. Maybe getting rid of Forecast was premature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 What about Lee Barnard in for Lambert? Or Jonno Quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 What about Lee Barnard in for Lambert? Or Jonno Quick? Aaron Martin is still on our submitted squad list I think, don't know where he is though, could be on loan, could be training with the youth, no idea. Don't think he'll get promoted to the first team group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Aaron Martin is still on our submitted squad list I think, don't know where he is though, could be on loan, could be training with the youth, no idea. Don't think he'll get promoted to the first team group. Would probably have him instead of Hooiveld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Would probably have him instead of Hooiveld. would be a lot less clumsy, Jos has highs and lows, sometimes perfectly acceptable and some times worse than dire. Seems to panic easily if rattled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Would probably have him instead of Hooiveld. If Hooiveld isn't Prem quality, Martin certainly isn't. The latter was a bit part player in our promotion who made the occasional appearance due to injuries, whilst the former was arguably our player of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 What Mauricio says about transfer activity and what will actually happen are two different things. We're obviously going to bring in a keeper and probably a central defender/left back. He's not going to say here's our shopping list come and get our money because we're desperate, that is not the Southampton Way. How can you be so sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 How can you be so sure? Because he's an intelligent man and those positions cannot be covered from our academy just now. Shaw is injury and illness prone, Fox is just useless prone and we aren't going to play Targett all of a sudden. As for the keeper the evidence was clear yesterday KD looks like long term and Boruc has a broken hand, might be back soon but another whack on it could put us back to square 1 in an instant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I think Gaston Ramirez could work in a strike role alongside Jay Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 I think Gaston Ramirez could work in a strike role alongside Jay Rod. anything's possible but he really is a midfielder, plays far deeper for Uruguay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenagegsaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 HAS to be: Super Kelv if fit/ or Cropper, Chambers, Fonte, Lovren, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, JWP, Lallana, Rodriguez, Lambert Big game, think it'll be a 2-2 draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirrorcarp Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Mate driving us up to this one, any ideas for parking and pubs from those who have been before. Very little info about this one on football ground guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 HAS to be: Super Kelv if fit/ or Cropper, Chambers, Fonte, Lovren, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Cork, JWP, Lallana, Rodriguez, Lambert Big game, think it'll be a 2-2 draw we might even see Chambers on the right and Clyne on the left, depends on exactly where we are with Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Osvaldo wasn't fit, Fonte has an ankle problem I believe. Boruc has been out for a little over three weeks. Gazzaniga is really underconfident. Unsurprising really, has hardly had a game in more than a year. Some of the SMS crowd are a disgrace, sarcastic cheers when he catches a ball, small wonder he looks like a rabbit in the headlights. And some are looking to put Cropper into the firing line, I bet he's glad he isn't playing behind that defense, the real problem. Clyne I believe was back in training last week. Fonte doesn't seem to be ready for a full game yet. It appears to me that Hooiveld's problem hinges on his total one footedness. Whenever he is under pressure and wrong sided he still tries to clear with his left foot. Yoshida would be my choice with Lovren. Clyne, Chambers or Shaw for full back. Cork and Schneiderlin in midfield. With Lallana, Ramirez, Rodriguez and Lambert at the front. However I expect Pochettino to pick either Davis or JWP ahead of Ramirez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Where's Seaborne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 Where's Seaborne? He left Saints in the summer and now plays for Yeovil Town. He is currently on loan at Coventry in League One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Share Posted 23 December, 2013 (edited) Hold on, what? Chambers is not a natural RB and is a creative midfielder? Holy crap!! OK, I just checked the OS....For a midfielder he is doing an even more amazing job for our club than I thought!! Edit: in my defence, I have never claimed to know a lot of the important stuff. I just shout and cheer a lot and hope for the best. Edited 23 December, 2013 by Ohio Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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