old_southy Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Fox and Gazza did more than I expected but Jos should just get out.
Tractor_Saint Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Can't believe you posted this! I laughed cos the skates were saying this yesterday and couldn't believe they'd turn against their team. However, you've taken the biscuit. We can do without supporters like you tbh. Go support the skates
Grey Crab Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Anyone who posts in support of this thread.
The Kraken Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 They're not good enough. But we don't have any genuine replacement options for them. Yoshida perhaps for Hooiveld, although his performance against Villa was error strewn. Fox and Gazza are the best options we have at the moment, which is a sad indictment but a necessary fact.
bangkoksaint Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Don't know how to but if I did I'd post that avatar with man shaking his head...................unbelievable
Viking Warrior Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 9-3 . Have some respect for our players . They came in for injured players . Get behind them instead of moaning. . Are you the new alpine ?
Greenridge Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 They're not good enough. But we don't have any genuine replacement options for them. Yoshida perhaps for Hooiveld, although his performance against Villa was error strewn. Fox and Gazza are the best options we have at the moment, which is a sad indictment but a necessary fact. Personally I'd rather see Yoshida in there but as you say we've got what we've got and whilst they're not up to the required standard they're not going out of their way to let the team down intentionally. Hopefully the glaring deficiencies in our squad will get addressed in the coming weeks.
S-Clarke Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Just watch the goals Yeah, fair enough all 3 are kind of out of their depth - but it's not their fault. Hate the way you've started the thread, makes you seem very immature.
DuncanRG Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Jos Hooiveld was one of our best players in our promotion season from the Championship and Danny Fox has played a big part as well. They have both helped to rebuild the reputation of our shirt. Paulo Gazzaniga has an entire career ahead of him in which all kinds of things may happen.
The Kraken Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Just watch the goals What was the solution? What whizz of a plan would you have initiated instead?
Tractor_Saint Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Just watch the goals I so hope you're third and final post for the day gets you out of looking like a complete muppet. Three goals, yup, saw them. What would you have done better with the options you had then huh Mr Hotshot?
trousers Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Gazza, Hoov, Fox Enough is enough. http://fansonline.net/portsmouth/mb/ HTH
adrian lord Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 While the 3 players in question are not perhaps good enough to continue 'wearing the shirt', I think that the term 'not fit to wear the shirt' implies an attitudinal, even moral failure on their parts. That would be both unfair and untrue, they have tried their bests but their respective bests have not been good enough.
melmacian_saint Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 If his clumsiness and poor tactical awareness weren't bad enough, Hooiveld's atittude when trying to clear the ball before the 3rd goal was poor. He just seemed to walk into Soldado with no conviction whatsoever, his attempt to attack the ball was ridiculous. That 2nd goal was also reminiscent of Fulham at home last year. Why is he in that postion anyway?? The shame is he will probably cost any team who might be interested a fortune compared to what he is worth and so will stay on until the end of his contract.
brmbrm Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 So fat, boozed-up, sweaty 9-3 is "fit to wear his (replica) shirt" but not the 3 players he names. I'm sure all 3 wish they were world-beating players but lets face it, they are not, they would accept that but they are doing their best.
Chewy Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Worst op of the year. Disgraceful over reaction to our first poor performance of the season.
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 The realistic ones on here have said this for a year and yet we get pelters for it, after a bad performance the clappers get on the bandwagon, the thing is there is more disappointment with us as opposed to anger, no we told you so's, no we were and are right and you are wrong, simply the players we have regardless of manager wont achieve the goals set out by Cortese.
Ziggy Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Can't believe you posted this! I laughed cos the skates were saying this yesterday and couldn't believe they'd turn against their team. However, you've taken the biscuit. We can do without supporters like you tbh. Go support the skates This.
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Gazza, Hoov, Fox Enough is enough. Oh do behave
Saint in Paradise Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 With a man in charge like NC do you really think that any player wouldn't try his best? Just because they don't seem to be playing at the high standard demanded by some supporters doesn't mean that they should be vilified on a football forum. God it must be hell for those perfect people on here having to live with mere mortals.
shirleysfc Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 no we told you so's, no we were and are right and you are wrong Priceless
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 With a man in charge like NC do you really think that any player wouldn't try his best? Just because they don't seem to be playing at the high standard demanded by some supporters doesn't mean that they should be vilified on a football forum. God it must be hell for those perfect people on here having to live with mere mortals. I agree but that does not stop him being **** and not up to the standard does it?
Barry Sanchez Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Priceless Nothing like an edit to fix your agenda.
shirleysfc Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Nothing like an edit to fix your agenda. Err, the edit hasn't changed the meaning of your original post or my point. As for me having an agenda? What ever you say princess.
Saints boy in Leeds Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Gazza, Hoov, Fox Enough is enough. Very harsh mate, it's not like we have a load of players that are over paid and don't give a damm (QPR last season springs to mind) unfortunately we have a few injures in Key positions and the stand ins just aren't up to it, that's the managements fault for not getting replacements in the summer in.
Saint86 Posted 22 December, 2013 Posted 22 December, 2013 Gazza, Hoov, Fox Enough is enough. For starting this thread, you sir.... are scum. Fox and Jos have come up with this club from the championship, winning us promotion and playing vital roles in getting us back into the prem (not least Jos scoring against west ham!)... They then gave there all last season when we were having a tough time, and this year they are ready to make the effort when called upon.... Fox in fact did a great run and pass to set up lallana. They may not be good enough for where we want to be.... but to come up with crap like "they are not fit to wear the shirt".... christ. You literally disgust me. As for Gazza, he is young and learning.... Nice to know that we are slamming twenty year old keepers for giving their best for the team. He was against a side that cost in excess of £100m today, he has less than 20 top flight games and 1 season of league 2 football... But he is deemed to be "unfit to wear the shirt".... you are an utter disgrace.
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 For starting this thread, you sir.... are scum. Fox and Jos have come up with this club from the championship, winning us promotion and playing vital roles in getting us back into the prem (not least Jos scoring against west ham!)... They then gave there all last season when we were having a tough time, and this year they are ready to make the effort when called upon.... Fox in fact did a great run and pass to set up lallana. They may not be good enough for where we want to be.... but to come up with crap like "they are not fit to wear the shirt".... christ. You literally disgust me. As for Gazza, he is young and learning.... Nice to know that we are slamming twenty year old keepers for giving their best for the team. He was against a side that cost in excess of £100m today, he has less than 20 top flight games and 1 season of league 2 football... But he is deemed to be "unfit to wear the shirt".... you are an utter disgrace. Thats a bit strong, wind it in.
dronskisaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 Way over the top, hysterical post on players who have, in general, served us well on our climb. They don't need 'support' like this! Not fit to buy a ticket perhaps?
Lazlo78 Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 Way over the top, hysterical post on players who have, in general, served us well on our climb. They don't need 'support' like this! Not fit to buy a ticket perhaps? I am pleasantly surprised that this by far is the prevailing attitude towards the OP and the players in question. This thread could have been a disaster, but reading the responses cheered me up.
JoeShmoe Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 The realistic ones on here have said this for a year and yet we get pelters for it, after a bad performance the clappers get on the bandwagon, the thing is there is more disappointment with us as opposed to anger, no we told you so's, no we were and are right and you are wrong, simply the players we have regardless of manager wont achieve the goals set out by Cortese. Barry fills my 'Barry Bingo' card in one post Clappers Realists Bandwagon Told you So Cortese All he needed was 'Europe' and i'd have full house
warsash saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 OK so Hoovield was not great yesterday ... but this is same player that was more than good enough at league leaders Arsenal !! I hope Father Christams brings you some new bed sheets!
Window Cleaner Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 OK so Hoovield was not great yesterday ... but this is same player that was more than good enough at league leaders Arsenal !! I hope Father Christams brings you some new bed sheets! I think one change in our habitual back 5 is fairly easy to accomodate, 2 is a bit more dicey and 4 out of 5 is just rank difficult. I seem to remember that Fox had a reasonable game against Swansea but then he had, Clyne,Boruc,Fonte and Lovren with him. Jos wasn't bad at Arsenal but with 4 of the other regulars. It's these mass changes that are causing the problem, most teams can play with one passenger most of the time.
Jai27 Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 Barry fills my 'Barry Bingo' card in one post Clappers Realists Bandwagon Told you So Cortese All he needed was 'Europe' and i'd have full house This hasn't had anywhere near enough appreciation yet. Brilliant.
kwsaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 I think one change in our habitual back 5 is fairly easy to accomodate, 2 is a bit more dicey and 4 out of 5 is just rank difficult. I seem to remember that Fox had a reasonable game against Swansea but then he had, Clyne,Boruc,Fonte and Lovren with him. Jos wasn't bad at Arsenal but with 4 of the other regulars. It's these mass changes that are causing the problem, most teams can play with one passenger most of the time. I was at the Swansea game. Fox was a liability and Lovren and Boruc stopped passing to him just after half time as he kept giving the ball away. Agree about the number of changes. We can accommodate 1 change, but having both regular full backs, one CB and goalkepper out was always going to be tricky. What gets me is the media bigging up Adebayor yesterday. He had a good game was up against Fox, and was always going to win that one. Similar to the West Brom game last season when Lukako stood against Fox. I think that it just proved that our squad is not yet strong enough in all areas to break into the top 8, although the full strength team on their day can beat anyone.
Patrick Bateman Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 Gazza, Hoov, Fox Enough is enough. What a stupid post. One is a very young goalkeeper who is learning his trade, is third choice and unluckily for us is the best we've got at the moment. The other two got us promoted and are pretty good as back-up squad players - again at the moment, we just happen to have to play both of them due to injuries which is unfortunate. Shaw is learning from Fox too, so he does have a role (see his recent interview). Some "fans" are so short-sighted.
110_Persaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 The realistic ones on here have said this for a year and yet we get pelters for it, after a bad performance the clappers get on the bandwagon, the thing is there is more disappointment with us as opposed to anger, no we told you so's, no we were and are right and you are wrong, simply the players we have regardless of manager wont achieve the goals set out by Cortese. Love it when someone takes the words right out of my mouth.
Bearsy Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 Yeah that was classic barry! Absolutely brazen!
Viking Warrior Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 9-3 your post would be more worthwhile if it had substance, but it doesnt. who would you have played in their places ? given the injuries we have had of late, I will not get on the backs of players not my style but I was not happy with some of our defensive frailities yesterday Would Hoovield have scored an og if gazza had been more assertive or was it just an unluck rebound that went in, should our right sided players have closed down the spuds player sooner. Their third goal was the result of a luck rebound against one of our players that fell niceley for adebyola , I thought when we equalised we would go on to win , but defensively we seemed to capitulate much to easily. When is Boruc due back ? or even Kelvin , he was sat on the bench yesterday. what is actually wrong with him?
shirleysfc Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 I was at the Swansea game. Fox was a liability and Lovren and Boruc stopped passing to him just after half time as he kept giving the ball away. You can't have been watching too closely if you believe this!
kwsaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 You can't have been watching too closely if you believe this! explain...
shirleysfc Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 explain... You actually believe that halfway through a match two of his team mates (professional footballers) stopped passing to him? This was a premier league match, not a playground kick about..
kwsaint Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 You actually believe that halfway through a match two of his team mates (professional footballers) stopped passing to him? This was a premier league match, not a playground kick about.. Were you at the game? That's what happened.
shirleysfc Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 Were you at the game? That's what happened. Yes I was and no it didn't.
9-3 Posted 23 December, 2013 Author Posted 23 December, 2013 I stand by what I say. Not good enough out of depth.
The Kraken Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 I stand by what I say. Not good enough out of depth. Yes, we know this. So what was the solution? In that situation, what would you have done differently? What were the better options?
Tractor_Saint Posted 23 December, 2013 Posted 23 December, 2013 I stand by what I say. Not good enough out of depth. A boy of little words and little brain. Come back when you can back your argument up. Otherwise, don't bother coming back,
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