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Boruc had a ropey start against Arsenal IIRC but this time NA stuck with him because his decision to play Gazza and Davis for over a quarter of the season had backfired spectacularly. Would not have been surprised that if NA had stuck with him after the Wham and Spurs games, a player who had been playing in Serie A months before would have been able to knock off rust and regain match fitness in no time.

 

As Boruc himself said, NA dealt with the whole situation very oddly.

 

Keep teliing yourself mate that our performances, form, results are no different under MP than NA when both had the same players while forgeting the fact that MP is missing other players NA had available (Clyne) or chose not to play (Boruc).

 

Point stands - you're comparing apples and pears and looking like bit of a plum.

 

 

Boruc said the situation was difficult and undesirable. You need to be able to read the full interview in Polish for that. He said Adkins didn't want him and that the management had insisted on signing him. He also claimed that he was the victim of racial abuse in the lead up to the bottle incident.

 

There was a translation in the Independant but I'm not sure that it's 100% accurate, my daughter in law translated the original for me and her English is pretty good, her being a Cambridge graduate and all that.

 

here it is for what it's worth.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/artur-boruc-claims-racial-abuse-led-to-bottle-incident-with-southampton-fans-8545868.html

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Boruc had a ropey start against Arsenal IIRC but this time NA stuck with him because his decision to play Gazza and Davis for over a quarter of the season had backfired spectacularly. Would not have been surprised that if NA had stuck with him after the Wham and Spurs games, a player who had been playing in Serie A months before would have been able to knock off rust and regain match fitness in no time.

 

As Boruc himself said, NA dealt with the whole situation very oddly.

 

Keep teliing yourself mate that our performances, form, results are no different under MP than NA when both had the same players while forgeting the fact that MP is missing other players NA had available (Clyne) or chose not to play (Boruc).

 

Point stands - you're comparing apples and pears and looking like bit of a plum.

 

Says the person that claims Adkins 'stubbornly stuck with Gazza' for 'several months', when in fact it was 23 days and 5 games. :lol:

 

Says the person that claims the team MP had to chose from at the end of the last season was EXACTLY the same as when Adkins did. When in fact he had a fully fit and sharp Boruc and Luke Shaw with half a seasons experience rather than making his debut :lol:

 

Says the persons that claims we are doing better now than when Adkins had a like for like team.

Corresponding fixtures last season MP p4 w0 d0 l4 Adkins P4 w1 d1 l2 :lol:

 

Says the person who claimed Adkins refused to pick Boruc, yet picked him and was sacked when he was our regular keeper. :lol:

 

Said the person who claimed Adkins refused to drop Gazzaniga after losing us points at home v Norwich when everyone was screaming for him to do so, except of course he did. :lol:

 

Keep 'em coming pal. You're doing really well. Go on, make something else up like you usually do when you're struggling. :lol: :lol::lol:

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Assume he's talking about Shaw but as it's ART, prob just the usual incoherent ramblings.

 

 

too much Ozone down at Palavas, makes you giddy. Anyway I've no idea if Art is correct or not is his assertions concerning

Shaw but should they be then perhaps the club need to rein in his galavanting a bit. We know (or presumably know) that he was shopping in London on Thurday, seemed to be at training afterwards, then he was reportedly ill and now we're told that he's scoffing Nandos and Christmas lunch at Staplewood. Perhaps if he'd rested up a bit instead of going to Kensington he might have been fit to play yesterday who knows. Not sure that he isn't playing fast and loose with us myself. As i have advocated many times we need to put him into competiton with a real left back very soon.

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Says the person that claims Adkins 'stubbornly stuck with Gazza' for 'several months', when in fact it was 23 days and 5 games. :lol:

 

Says the person that claims the team MP had to chose from at the end of the last season was EXACTLY the same as when Adkins did. When in fact he had a fully fit and sharp Boruc and Luke Shaw with half a seasons experience rather than making his debut :lol:

 

Says the persons that claims we are doing better now than when Adkins had a like for like team.

Corresponding fixtures last season MP p4 w0 d0 l4 Adkins P4 w1 d1 l2 :lol:

 

Says the person who claimed Adkins refused to pick Boruc, yet picked him and was sacked when he was our regular keeper. :lol:

 

Said the person who claimed Adkins refused to drop Gazzaniga after losing us points at home v Norwich when everyone was screaming for him to do so, except of course he did. :lol:

 

Keep 'em coming pal. You're doing really well. Go on, make something else up like you usually do when you're struggling. :lol: :lol::lol:

 

Not struggling - you seem to be the only one on here - having cornered yourself- that thinks NA handled our gk situation effectively.

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Says the person that claims Adkins 'stubbornly stuck with Gazza' for 'several months', when in fact it was 23 days and 5 games.

 

It was more than 5 games. He started against Everton and was all over the place for a couple of goals. Didn't do much better against Fulham. And then got another reprieve after being dropped for two games. So he was our main goalkeeper from September till the end of November :facepalm:

 

Says the person that claims the team MP had to chose from at the end of the last season was EXACTLY the same as when Adkins did. When in fact he had a fully fit and sharp Boruc and Luke Shaw with half a seasons experience rather than making his debut

 

A team that was playing significantly better than at the start of the season - indeed, it was much harder to beat so much so that it had a top six defense by the end of the season :facepalm:

 

Says the persons that claims we are doing better now than when Adkins had a like for like team.

Corresponding fixtures last season MP p4 w0 d0 l4 Adkins P4 w1 d1 l2

 

Can't have a Turkish post without some random, cherrypicked results - what are you on about :facepalm:

 

Says the person who claimed Adkins refused to pick Boruc, yet picked him and was sacked when he was our regular keeper.

 

Having ignored him for over a quarter of the season :facepalm:

 

Said the person who claimed Adkins refused to drop Gazzaniga after losing us points at home v Norwich when everyone was screaming for him to do so, except of course he did.

 

Forget the points he dropped against Swansea, he almost threw away at QPR etc and yet continued to be played despite near universal doubts :facepalm:

 

Keep 'em coming pal. You're doing really well. Go on, make something else up like you usually do when you're struggling. :lol: :lol::lol:

 

I'll leave it there - you're obviously floundering.

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Mopo knows he's on a tightrope and deservedly so. Absolutely appalling performances and results as of late. Wouldn't shed a tear to see him go.

 

Sick of peeps acting like the bloke's untouchable because he's supposedly a "step-up" from Adkins. :facepalm:

 

Our performances have not been appalling, just the results. If he refrains from playing our best players or substitutes wrongly, for me, it's he who's performing appallingly.

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Our performances have not been appalling, just the results. If he refrains from playing our best players or substitutes wrongly, for me, it's he who's performing appallingly.

 

 

Oh do leave off, he's playing the best players we have available, the others aren't fit that's all. People who know keep telling you that Fonté isn't fit and Shaw was ill and yet you keep on about not playing our best players, what do you want Victor on with his crutches, Boruc with his hand in a support. Cork played badly after about an hour, kept giving the ball away, he was subbed for some new legs. The trolls I can ignore, people who should know better I can't.

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It's amazing how many have been waiting to stick the knife into MP. The agenda boys are out in force

 

Fans develop loyalty to managers and players and find it hard when they are discarded or left behind. Our club have been very lucky in that the current manager and his two predecessors have in different ways done a first class job.

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Pochettino is being found wanting - his team selections are poor - why pick Fox and Hooifeld? Why make the substitutions he made - why is there no Plan B when things are not working? To take one example, Fox is clearly not a good enough defender at this level so why on earth play him?

 

Agreed. Yoshi can play LB and Shaw was fit to play

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Pochettino is being found wanting - his team selections are poor - why pick Fox and Hooifeld? Why make the substitutions he made - why is there no Plan B when things are not working? To take one example, Fox is clearly not a good enough defender at this level so why on earth play him?

 

You are right.. Barcelona don't have a plan B and are being found out consistently.

Who would you have played at Right back then.. or perhaps playing no-one there is better than Fox ?

 

We Have lost to Arsenal away, Chelsea Away - both expected

We played very well v Man City and Newcastle

WE made basic errors v Aston Villa & Spurs probably as we do not have the squad depth of other top six teams.

 

Not sure how MP can be blamed for basic errors from squad players.

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You are right.. Barcelona don't have a plan B and are being found out consistently.

Who would you have played at Right back then.. or perhaps playing no-one there is better than Fox ?

 

We Have lost to Arsenal away, Chelsea Away - both expected

We played very well v Man City and Newcastle

WE made basic errors v Aston Villa & Spurs probably as we do not have the squad depth of other top six teams.

 

Not sure how MP can be blamed for basic errors from squad players.

 

When its the same players making the same mistakes that has become their hall mark then you have to say selecting them is an error on his part. Gazza, well there isn't anyone else is there, but Fox and especially Hooliveld have been a liability at this level.

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I still believe that a players either fit or unfit. If they're unfit, they shouldn't be on the bench, if they're on the bench, they should be as fit as those on the pitch and as NA used to refer to it, be able to make an impact. How can you have a less than 100% fit professional footballer on the bench in the premier league? So, either Fonte is fit but out of favor for some unknown reason or SFC are resorting to the kind iof bench selection my Sunday morning seniors team have to adopt. I think there's more than meets the eye IMPO.

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I still believe that a players either fit or unfit. If they're unfit, they shouldn't be on the bench, if they're on the bench, they should be as fit as those on the pitch and as NA used to refer to it, be able to make an impact. How can you have a less than 100% fit professional footballer on the bench in the premier league? So, either Fonte is fit but out of favor for some unknown reason or SFC are resorting to the kind iof bench selection my Sunday morning seniors team have to adopt. I think there's more than meets the eye IMPO.

 

Don't think it is difficult concept?

 

100% fit = no injuries at all, no tight muscles, joint problems etc, no colds, been fully training, all measurements show at peak.

 

Few players would be there.

 

Other extreme is too injured to be considered - ill, torn ligaments etc

 

Players will be somewhere between hopefully nearer 100% fit.

 

Some used to prefer Jos to Fonte so it is not difficult to understand that the clubs judgement could have been that 100% fit Jos could play better than a 40% fonte but that 40% fonte is better than a youngster?

 

Club have said he is carrying injury and not fully fit, no secret. How hard is he training during week? Is he able to fully work on all set pieces etc?

 

We have still been playing well, Hull, Arsenal, Newcastle, half of Chelsea, villa, even spurs was no where near as bad as it felt at time, more disappointing due to how good we are.

 

The solid defensive unit of Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Lovren, Shaw, Wanyama and Schneiderlin has only had Lovren survive. Reckon even top sides wouldn't expect much from that run of games with 6 out of 7 defensive players out.

 

Of course we need to turn it around and get points but obvious to anyone that its not case of imploding / running out of ideas etc - combination of, over short period so slants things; harder games, bad luck, injuries, silly mistakes, freak result.

 

Bizarre that those who said would drop to bottom half moan when well placed 9th

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Of course we need to turn it around and get points but obvious to anyone that its not case of imploding / running out of ideas etc - combination of, over short period so slants things; harder games, bad luck, injuries, silly mistakes, freak result.

 

Shame Adkins didn't get the same benefit of the doubt.

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The point is there was options.

 

Play one of Jos, Fox or Gazza but not all 3! Very worst case play 2..... I stuck £200 on a spurs win as soon as i saw the starting 11, it was inevitable and if mopo couldnt see it :facepalm:

 

i dont doubt you did make these winning bets that you always seem to boast about after the event. im not sure i have ever seen a post where you tell us about a large bet you have placed prior to the event.

 

 

please feel free to tell us the next certain winning bet and the amount you put on it. a pic of the said betting slip would be good too.

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i dont doubt you did make these winning bets that you always seem to boast about after the event. im not sure i have ever seen a post where you tell us about a large bet you have placed prior to the event.

 

 

please feel free to tell us the next certain winning bet and the amount you put on it. a pic of the said betting slip would be good too.

 

 

that will be the day

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Don't think it is difficult concept?

 

100% fit = no injuries at all, no tight muscles, joint problems etc, no colds, been fully training, all measurements show at peak.

 

Few players would be there.

 

Other extreme is too injured to be considered - ill, torn ligaments etc

 

Players will be somewhere between hopefully nearer 100% fit.

 

Some used to prefer Jos to Fonte so it is not difficult to understand that the clubs judgement could have been that 100% fit Jos could play better than a 40% fonte but that 40% fonte is better than a youngster?

 

Club have said he is carrying injury and not fully fit, no secret. How hard is he training during week? Is he able to fully work on all set pieces etc?

 

We have still been playing well, Hull, Arsenal, Newcastle, half of Chelsea, villa, even spurs was no where near as bad as it felt at time, more disappointing due to how good we are.

 

The solid defensive unit of Boruc, Clyne, Fonte, Lovren, Shaw, Wanyama and Schneiderlin has only had Lovren survive. Reckon even top sides wouldn't expect much from that run of games with 6 out of 7 defensive players out.

 

Of course we need to turn it around and get points but obvious to anyone that its not case of imploding / running out of ideas etc - combination of, over short period so slants things; harder games, bad luck, injuries, silly mistakes, freak result.

 

Bizarre that those who said would drop to bottom half moan when well placed 9th

 

 

There's an injury update in the Echo, very much as a few of us have said José and Maya are struggling with injuries. That means that the two development lads aren't even good enough to replace injured regulars on the bench. As I've said before if a player is going to make the first team he'll have shown up somewhere in the vicinity by the time he's 18 or 19. Once you get to the ages of Stephens and Turnbull you're as likely as not to not make it. If they're not to be trusted on the bench when senior players have virtually no chance of being risked then you might just as well ship them out to the stiffs somewhere.

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People are joking, but if we lose to Cardiff, Everton, Chelsea and WBA, I think he will be gone! Then there is Sunderland and if still here then and we do not win, it will be the final nail.

 

Football is crazy, but that would be a terrible run of results, that are possible, but I do not expect to happen.

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People are joking, but if we lose to Cardiff, Everton, Chelsea and WBA, I think he will be gone! Then there is Sunderland and if still here then and we do not win, it will be the final nail.

 

Football is crazy, but that would be a terrible run of results, that are possible, but I do not expect to happen.

 

If we lose five in a row from here he will be sacked. But he won't.

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