9-3 Posted 20 December, 2013 Share Posted 20 December, 2013 Please buy this weekend! Fantastic history of every player that played for Saints. Great Christmas present! The authors have spent a fortune of their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 December, 2013 Share Posted 20 December, 2013 Agreed. It is a great book and I'd encourage every Saints fan to buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 20 December, 2013 Share Posted 20 December, 2013 Agreed. It is a great book and I'd encourage every Saints fan to buy it. I've got three boxed and ready to give out as Xmas presents, really looking fd to them being opened and having a little look myself. Thoroughly endorse the appeal to buy one, shocking that these guys who have produced some of the most acclaimed sports books around are sitting on a shed load of their own money and with no distribution deal. We are truly lucky to have the history of the club chronicled in such depth and with such loving detail, has any other club got anything half as good as In That Number? Please buy one if you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 December, 2013 Share Posted 20 December, 2013 I've got three boxed and ready to give out as Xmas presents, really looking fd to them being opened and having a little look myself. Thoroughly endorse the appeal to buy one, shocking that these guys who have produced some of the most acclaimed sports books around are sitting on a shed load of their own money and with no distribution deal. We are truly lucky to have the history of the club chronicled in such depth and with such loving detail, has any other club got anything half as good as In That Number? Please buy one if you can! I'll bump this again, and agree. Buy this book, Saints fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted 20 December, 2013 Share Posted 20 December, 2013 Excellent book of reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 I want it. I won't get it. I don't have any Saints fans in my family. But I will get Christmas money, so I'll blow it on that instead. In fact, next Christmas I might buy everyone in my family a copy, to teach them all about the wonder that is SFC's history. (...and that includes my Norwich-supporting wife. :-) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Saw it but £35 for info that is freely available on Google! What's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Saw it but £35 for info that is freely available on Google! What's the point? That's the spirit! Bah Humbug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy windham Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Saw it but £35 for info that is freely available on Google! What's the point? It's not all "freely available on Google" though, I know first hand the work that went into speaking to every single currently living player/ex player. It's not just a mere copy and paste job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Wonderful book which I received as a birthday present recently (only slightly marred by the fact they included my wife's name in the book instead of mine, as she intended. Ho hum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 It's a right old slab of history - a proper trip down memory lane, in a good way. Forget the handkerchiefs with your initials on them or cartoon socks, go cultural this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Where can I buy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 it would help if Duncan pasted a page or so on here to give a taste of what people are buying. £35 is quite a lot of money for a book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 I don't live in the UK but is there a way I can buy this for a relative that does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyb5443 Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 I was going to buy it to have a read on holiday but it's massive. I'll still be buying it though as looks like getting a lot for the £35. Any other saints books worth checking out at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/gary+chalk/duncan+holley/david+bull/all+the+saints/10119053/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Saw it but £35 for info that is freely available on Google! What's the point? Well you just go find it all Buster. All the photographs, anecdotes, design, layout, production, print and distribution. Go track down all the ex players still living and interview them. Do you really think that these guys do it for a profit? I think that they'll be lucky to break even. it would help if Duncan pasted a page or so on here to give a taste of what people are buying. £35 is quite a lot of money for a book Tell you what, I'll scan all 536 pages (which includes front and back covers, index etc). Then I'll post them up here piecemeal. Then you copy them and take them away to get printed and bound. Probably only cost you....a tad more than £35. I have ALL of the Hagiology output, including both hard and softback copies of Dell Diamond. Each a masterpiece in it's own right. Rant over. A BIG THANK YOU TO DUNCAN, GARY AND DAVID FOR ANOTHER MASSIVE LABOUR OF LOVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 .............A BIG THANK YOU TO DUNCAN, GARY AND DAVID FOR ANOTHER MASSIVE LABOUR OF LOVE. can't say more - well done fellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Great book . While you might get some of the info on google you will not get it all and a lot of stuff has come from those players who are still alive . Shame on you sotonjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Where can I buy it? http://www.hagiologists.com or drop me an e mail Duncan@duncanholley.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 it would help if Duncan pasted a page or so on here to give a taste of what people are buying. £35 is quite a lot of money for a book Nick you would be better browsing your local Waterstones. It is expensive but it is lavishly put together at a cost of £55000 and weights 2.3kgs. I am convinced it is good value. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Just ordered via Hagiologists.com, painless :0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Christmas will be going down hill very quickly if I am not un-wrapping a copy on Christmas Afternoon! I have dropped enough hints and "lead the horse to water". Every book these boys have produced has been spot on, and to all Saints fans worth every single penny. I have a Wimbledon (old money) supporting friend who everytime him and his wife have stayed for the weekend can at some point be found carrying on from where he last left off reading through In That Number. He is amazed that folks have gone to so much effort to produce such a "stunning history superbly presented". sotonjoe hang your head in shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 It would have been on my Xmas list had I known of its existence. At £35, I cant expect my missus to fork out as a stocking filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifeintheslowlane Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Bought mine direct from http://www.hagiologists.com Top book; indispensable for all real Saints supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/products/gary+chalk/duncan+holley/david+bull/all+the+saints/10119053/Just to let you know I have had an order outstanding with Waterstones since the 3rd Dec i.e. 18 days and it still says "Order being processed" and "Waiting to be picked from out warehouse". I would like to know Have Hagiologist supplied Waterstones with any copies since the 3rd Dec ? or whether Waterstones are only supplying full price orders ? (and they hope I will cancel). ..... As I live in Bournemouth and the book appeared to be "handled by Waterstones" (i.e. shop signings in Southampton) I went to the 2 branches down here over the w/.e 30 Nov-1st Dec and was told they didn't have it in the shop and was directed to their web site. I ordered from their online services on the 3rd Dec, (which just so happened when they were offering FREE DELIVERY and a 15% discount on books over £25). i.e. the Order price was £29.75. On 8th Dec I received an email saying [TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [TABLE=align: left] [TR] [TD]Qty [/TD] [TD]Author [/TD] [TD]Title [/TD] [TD=align: right]Price [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1 [/TD] [TD]GARY CHALK DUNCAN HOLLEY DAVID [/TD] [TD]All the Saints [/TD] [TD=align: right]£29.75 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Your order contains one or more items that are not currently held in our warehouse. We have placed an order with our suppliers, and will get your order out to you as fast as we can. Please note, we will not charge you until your items have been despatched*. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] At the same time they changed their web site from "Available" to " Available to order Usually despatched in 1-2 weeks". On the 18th I again received the same email saying "not in warehouse waiting for our suppliers" etc [TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [TABLE=align: left] [TR] [TD]Qty [/TD] [TD]Author [/TD] [TD]Title [/TD] [TD=align: right]Price [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1 [/TD] [TD]GARY CHALK DUNCAN HOLLEY DAVID [/TD] [TD]All the Saints [/TD] [TD=align: right]£29.75 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]As you know, your order contained one or more items that we had to order in from our suppliers. We have not yet received delivery of the item(s), but as soon as we do, we'll get your order out to you. Please note, we will not charge you until your items have been despatched*. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 ^^ Well that's a bit rubbish from Waterstones. As I understand it, the shops bought a batch of 1,000 on the back of SFC going back on their agreement to stock it in the club megastore. No idea what the situation is with online. Also, as I understand it, the authors make more money from it if its bought direct. Probably worth noting that if you send a PM to Fitzhugh Fella he'll ping you details of how you can get the book straight from them. Sorry John, I know that does you no favours! I hope the book comes through soon for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Christmas will be going down hill very quickly if I am not un-wrapping a copy on Christmas Afternoon! I have dropped enough hints and "lead the horse to water". Every book these boys have produced has been spot on, and to all Saints fans worth every single penny. I have a Wimbledon (old money) supporting friend who everytime him and his wife have stayed for the weekend can at some point be found carrying on from where he last left off reading through In That Number. He is amazed that folks have gone to so much effort to produce such a "stunning history superbly presented". sotonjoe hang your head in shame. Ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simples Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Ordered mine a few weeks ago, actually a couple of months I think. Still waiting for it :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Saw the book in waterstones whilst doing some Christmas shopping this week - have to say I was very, very impressed. I'm hoping it may end up on my lap Christmas day as a present but I'll be buying it if not. Everyone involved should be applauded for doing such a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 This is a truly phenomenal effort - you guys epitomise the spirit of football clubs. Next time I have some cash lying around I'll try to pick up this and In That Number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 This was the last book similar to the new one and it was brilliant. I've read it cover to cover many times and even now will still flick through it when I hear of a deceased former player or something of that ilk. It's "the bible" for any Saints fan, as I suspect the new one will be. I also want to get Suited and Booted, to learn more about the Saints pre-war. Some serious hinting required to get the wife to submit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Saint John - yes we have kept Waterstones fully supplied, but the cluster that involves Southampton, Lymington, Fareham, Salisbury, Eastleigh, Andover and Winchester does not stretch to the Bournemouth branches. I have tonight e mailed your comments to the manager of the region who is called Ross (CL27@Waterstones.com). Waterstones have been excellent for us but it seems their communication system has let you and us down. The programme shop will be selling copies prior to tomorrow's game and the Guide Dog in Bevois Valley has got copies too (ask Margaret the land lady). Plus Kenny G has some around his flat near the Ave - all venues will charge £30. HTH. Simples - the book has only been out three weeks, if you have paid for it and provided postage you should have it by now, if you did not include postage it has been available to be collected from either Eastleigh, Otterbourne, Salisbury, Bristol or Rownhams. E mail on Duncan@duncanholley.co.uk if you are having problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 This was the last book similar to the new one and it was brilliant. I've read it cover to cover many times and even now will still flick through it when I hear of a deceased former player or something of that ilk. It's "the bible" for any Saints fan, as I suspect the new one will be. I also want to get Suited and Booted, to learn more about the Saints pre-war. Some serious hinting required to get the wife to submit... The Alphabet was good for its time but All the Saints is way deeper and of course in full colour all 520 pages. Thanks for the plug SNSUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Just popped out to collect three copies (one for me and two presents) from Messr Chalk and the book looks fantastic. A true labour of love that you really need to see to believe. Top work by all involved and a must buy for the avid Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Just ordered. Hopefully arrive in Shropshire as soon as possible so I can read it rather than listen to the outlaws go on & on & on & on & on............................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Hi Saint John - just had this reply in response to your post Hi Duncan, Our central team have had some problems configuring the website with regards to the book (its usually pretty automated from Neilson - hence the problems). First it was listed at intenet discount price, now back to full price. The biggest problem has been setting it up so that when you go to order, it should only route through to 'reserve and collect' - and explain you can reserve it in a store and collect it at your leisure - however this hasn't been happening and caused us numerous problems. Please do respond to the unhappy customers and apologise on our behalf. Thanks, Ross Medley Bookshop Manager & Cluster Leader Cluster 27 Waterstones, West Quay Southampton 023 8023 2118 CL27@waterstones.com http://www.waterstones.com ________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Just emailed the FF chap and sent right to the Northern climes - and what a fantastic piece of work it is, up there with the legendary In That Number. I have the complete set (apart from the yellow ribbon one....bah) and we should count ourselves lucky that the club has these dedicated few willing to spend huge amounts of time and money to bring our clubs history to life in such a detailed, and entertaining way. Seriously, go out, buy it and enjoy it, top stuff and thanks to the hagioloioolioygyugyuig boys ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 Picked mine up from Duncan a couple of weeks ago and have since been engrossed. What surprises me is the number of players that I'e watched over the years but had completely forgotten about. Nice to see that an anecdote about Bill Stroud that I supplied being included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 December, 2013 Share Posted 21 December, 2013 The Alphabet was good for its time but All the Saints is way deeper and of course in full colour all 520 pages. Thanks for the plug SNSUN You're welcome. :-D I looked for a picture of the Suited and Booted book but that pic came up instead so I went for that instead to illustrate my post! ;-) Is this the last Hagiologist book BTW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 December, 2013 Share Posted 26 December, 2013 Nick you would be better browsing your local Waterstones. It is expensive but it is lavishly put together at a cost of £55000 and weights 2.3kgs. I am convinced it is good value. Cheersgot it for Xmas, who do I sue as it put my back out!! I thought a player called Harry Lanham played for us, well that's what he used to say lol. Perhaps he only made the reserves. It would have been in the 40-50's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 26 December, 2013 Share Posted 26 December, 2013 I was given this yesterday as well - absolutely superb. Getting lost in it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 26 December, 2013 Share Posted 26 December, 2013 Another extraordinary book from the Hagiologists - absolutely superb and worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 26 December, 2013 Share Posted 26 December, 2013 My father, 76 years old, was very happy with the copy I got him for Christmas. He knew lots of the players personally from years ago and has enjoyed reading about his old mates. Strangely, the fact that I managed to get his copy signed by MLT didn't impress him as much as I hoped, and not nearly as much as the book itself. Cheers FF. Finding a decent present for him is always a hard task but you helped me do it this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick Posted 27 December, 2013 Share Posted 27 December, 2013 got it for Xmas, who do I sue as it put my back out!! I thought a player called Harry Lanham played for us, well that's what he used to say lol. Perhaps he only made the reserves. It would have been in the 40-50's I knew Harry Lanham when he was an old man - he was very proud of having played for Saints. You will find him mentioned in the wartime section of the book - he missed out on a football career because of the war. I believe the Lanham family had some kind of furniture business in Southampton. My barber once showed me their advert in a theatre (?Gaumont) program from the 1930s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 27 December, 2013 Share Posted 27 December, 2013 A little heads up for the Authors (I think a few of them are on here?). A relative ordered this book for me from Waterstones (in Ipswich) at the start of December and by Christmas it hadn't arrived - Waterstones were messing my relative about and claimed issues with suppliers etc. which I know is ******** and a crap excuse from them given we know it is in stores in and around Southampton. In the end we ordered it from Amazon I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 27 December, 2013 Share Posted 27 December, 2013 got it for Xmas, who do I sue as it put my back out!! I thought a player called Harry Lanham played for us, well that's what he used to say lol. Perhaps he only made the reserves. It would have been in the 40-50's Nick check out page 224 - you will find Harry Lanham there. Interestingly I had a phone call yesterday from a great nephew of an ex-Saints player from 1896 whose fate after leaving Southampton we were unsure of. It appears he murdered his wife in 1906. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 27 December, 2013 Share Posted 27 December, 2013 A little heads up for the Authors (I think a few of them are on here?). A relative ordered this book for me from Waterstones (in Ipswich) at the start of December and by Christmas it hadn't arrived - Waterstones were messing my relative about and claimed issues with suppliers etc. which I know is ******** and a crap excuse from them given we know it is in stores in and around Southampton. In the end we ordered it from Amazon I think. Thanks for this - I am aware that Waterstones are saying this and they have apologised. Books can be ordered from http://www.hagiologists.com Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilf Posted 27 December, 2013 Share Posted 27 December, 2013 This is a fantastic book, if you haven't decided to go for it yet then I would highly recommend you go for it. It's clearly not a book to read cover to cover in one go, but I find that I dip into it often, then every time spend longer than expected skipping from player to player. For me the best thing about the book (apart from the great photos & illustrations) is that although it's brimming with facts, it's written in a warm and entertaining style, sometimes amusing, sometimes opinionated but always respectful of each player's achievements; this is clearly a labour of love by fans for fans. A massive achievement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 December, 2013 Share Posted 27 December, 2013 (edited) I knew Harry Lanham when he was an old man - he was very proud of having played for Saints. You will find him mentioned in the wartime section of the book - he missed out on a football career because of the war. I believe the Lanham family had some kind of furniture business i n Southampton. My barber once showed me their advert in a theatre (?Gaumont) program from the 1930s. Harry and his sister Rose had an antiques shop in Northam Road, they also had a removal business before that. He was well known on the umpiring circuit and. Ithink umpired in first class cricket. His favourite story was that he was umpiring one of his first matches and got so into the game he turned around to appeal for a decision! whether that was true or not it was an amusing tale. Edited 27 December, 2013 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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